Pc Plod Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I recently changed my campervan to a chausson flash10 and i would like some advice on how to remove the fixed table pedestal so that i can use a standard table.The standard table is too big for this van,otherwise a great motorhome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJP Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Try unplugging it? If it is electric! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 As far as I can make out from photos, there's nothing obvious to show how the 'pedestal' at the base of the table's telescopic leg is fixed to the motorhome's floor. Presumably you've tried lifting the sections of the leg to see if you can gain access to the top of the pedestal? Logically, there must be screws/bolts holding the pedestal to the floor and, if those screws aren't visible, one might expect the top of the pedestal to be a removable cover. An alternative (I suppose) is that that table might be held to the floor via bolts inserted from beneath. I'm doubtful that would be the case, but it might be worth checking. I notice that there are a few on-line comments about these "T System' tables, but none mention removal. If you can't work out how to remove yours, a Chausson specialist (I'd try Highbridge Caravans) might be able to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Another aspect to consider is the potential reduction in value when you come to sell unless you ensure that the van can be returned to it's original condition? Personally, I agree that fixed tables are a real space hog and I too would figure out how to take it out if it were mine! If it is electrically operated I assume it is 12 v and there may well be a cable under the van going in and it's location might give you a clue as to whether the table fixes onto or through the floor? Have you looked underneath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The "T System'" (table with electrically-operated telescopic leg) has been fitted to many Chausson/Challenger motorhomes during the last couple of years. When a 'low profile' Chausson/Challenger model has a ceiling-height bed that can be lowered, the T-System table can also be lowered easily and quickly to permit the lowered bed to be as near as practicable to the floor. In the Flash 10's case, it's also possible to lower the ceiling-height bed halfway down and make up another bed beneath using the lowered T-System table as a base. This feature is described here: http://www.caravanguard.co.uk/news/chausson-flash-10-motorhome-review-4189/ This is the 2012 Challenger catalogue http://www.martincaravanes.com/files/pdf/challenger-2012.pdf Photos on Page 17 of Genesis 30 model (the Challenger-branded twin of Chausson's Flash 10) show the bottom part of the table leg with no fixings to the floor visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8LEY Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Isn't the OE table designed to support the drop down bed? In which case an alternative smaller table, not intended to carry the weight of a bed, may not be suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 T8LEY - 2013-10-31 1:59 PM Isn't the OE table designed to support the drop down bed? In which case an alternative smaller table, not intended to carry the weight of a bed, may not be suitable. The base of the ceiling-height bed is rigid - that's why it can be used in the part-lowered position. When fully lowered each end of the bed rests on the side-seat cushions. There's no need for the central part of the bed to be supported by the lowered table. Plainly, if the original table were replaced, there would be implications regarding constructing a 'made up' bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pc Plod Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Thankyou for your quick replies. As my wife tapped the floor around the pedestal i looked underneath and found a cable going through the floor to where the pedestal is.I will have another go tomorrow to try and work out how to dismantle it. Because there is only the two of us( and the dog) we are not concerned about the lower bed as we just use the drop down bed,this is what attracted us to this model ,having a lounge and no bed making. At the Lincoln show we met another couple with the same van who were also going to do the same as us. I wonder if you are reading this post if you could enlighten me if you have managed to work out a solution and if so where have stored your new table. Regards Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Pc Plod - 2013-10-30 6:01 PM I recently changed my campervan to a chausson flash10 and i would like some advice on how to remove the fixed table pedestal so that i can use a standard table.The standard table is too big for this van,otherwise a great motorhome. Rather than remove the whole thing, couldn't you just put on a smaller table top, or one with a section that folds down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Mel B - 2013-10-31 10:41 PM Pc Plod - 2013-10-30 6:01 PM I recently changed my campervan to a chausson flash10 and i would like some advice on how to remove the fixed table pedestal so that i can use a standard table.The standard table is too big for this van,otherwise a great motorhome. Rather than remove the whole thing, couldn't you just put on a smaller table top, or one with a section that folds down? Our Hobby has a (non-electric) telescopic-leg table between its side-settees, with a large-area top made up of a central section with a flap each side that can be hinged down. The top also slides and swivels. The Hobby's table permits people sitting on the side-settees and swivelled cab seats to dine simultaneously. The lowered table also allows an 'emergency' bed to be jig-sawed together. In practice, despite being foldable, it's a nuisance when the side-settees are being used for 'lounging', because the fixed leg/pedestal of the table interferes with the feet of the people seated. It could, in hinged-down/lowered mode be used as a coffee table, I suppose, and my wife uses it with a cushion as a foot-stool. But reducing the area of the table's top would not improve the foot-interference situation. The Hobby's large table is useful when dining, but an irritant when not. However, how we use the Hobby means that removing the fixed table completely and replacing it with a table that could be stored somewhere when not being used for dining is a non-starter. Our previous motorhome had a free-standing table stored in the wardrobe and we are definitely not going back to that arrangement. It would seem from his most recent posting that Harry is considering replacing the Chausson's original fixed electric-leg table with one that is free-standing or can quickly be removed. There's not much storage space in a Flash 10 for a large object like a table, but I guess the wardrobe would be the logical place to store one. If I owned a Flash 10, I'd certainly like to know how to remove the table. But I probably wouldn't do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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