Will86 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Duncan, Will you please reduce the darkness on SOME of the blue tabs. The closeness of the shade of the patch and the numbers within them is indistinct and confusing ... AND ... IN FACT ITS PAINFUL ! Its the 5 blue tabs within this thread and the 2 below. Why someone decides to have different shades of the same colour is impossible. Some of us are not colour crazy children ! FIX IT Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Personally, I think it’s a significant improvement on the previous design. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randonneur Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I agree with Derek, a good improvement. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Even better if every number/letter on the Warners website were a different colour and size, and the colour/size altered and flashed at random - that would be proper classy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I've just had a mental image of Derek's boudoir 8-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I wonder if Warners tested the colour scheme and layout for suitability for those with restricted vision including people who struggle to cope with certain colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Should have gone to Specsavers. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 What tabs are we talking about here? I can't see anything that is indistinct or confusing, let alone painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will86 Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 PROFILE PM QUOTE REPLY are four different shaded tabs each with black text. (There are others. The lighter ones have white text and are OK. Some of the younger of you probably see no difference but for those like myself with highly sensitive eyesight and hearing its painful. It seems that some prefer more glitter, gawd help us if that occurs. No doubt some will scoff at my complaint about the shade and say its the same. Sadly its another modern idea that is worse! The critical key in printing written information is to write text in a contrasting colour to its background. Blue and white is passable (just). Blue and black is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerC Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Will85 - 2015-09-20 8:03 PMPROFILE PM QUOTE REPLY are four different shaded tabs each with black text. (There are others. The lighter ones have white text and are OK.Some of the younger of you probably see no difference but for those like myself with highly sensitive eyesight and hearing its painful. It seems that some prefer more glitter, gawd help us if that occurs.No doubt some will scoff at my complaint about the shade and say its the same. Sadly its another modern idea that is worse!The critical key in printing written information is to write text in a contrasting colour to its background. Blue and white is passable (just). Blue and black is not. Will the text within those boxes is actually close to Royal Blue not black.....but regardless I do agree the colours are not very attractive or easily read combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The Out&AboutLive forums have been in existence for some 10 years. Extra forums have been added - “Chatterbox” was essential, “Hits and Tips” was a mistake and the “Your Views” forums generate little interest - but the original layout and concept have remained essentially unchanged. I don’t know where the software behind these forums came from in the first place, how much latitude there is to amend/tweak it, or who makes the modifications. Website-design studies have been carried out relating to colour usage on computer screens (discussion here and note the two black-on-blue tabs at top of page) https://www.joedolson.com/2006/08/on-the-readability-of-inverted-color-schemes/ but it often comes down to a designer’s personal preference. Someone in Warners employ will have chosen to alter the PROFILE/PM/MAIL/WWW/QUOTE/REPLY/EDIT/POST REPLY/NEW THREAD/GO tabs to the present colour combination that offends Bill so much and (hopefully) that choice will have been agreed before the change was implemented. I very much doubt that whoever chose the latest tab combination would have anticipated Bill’s reaction – I expect they just played about with various combinations that differed from before and decided they liked the combination now showing. Being serious, I agree that the latest colour combination for those tabs does not make for easy readability, but if the intention was to differentiate those tabs from the ‘Page’ tabs (white text on blue background) alternative combinations may be even less acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Salisbury Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I prefer the reversed white on blue letters and I understand the chap who started this thread means as I have to attend hospital to undergo eye injections and find that some of the web pages on Banks etc are very hard to read. Submit and Preview needs some attention too! The tab ACTION is brilliant for me so why don't they make them like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Would forum members prefer the colour-related approach used on the Motorhome Fum forums? http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/in-terms-of-motorhoming-how-do-you-define-freeloading.116158/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Salisbury Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Don't like it. Text too small for starters, could hardly read it. Prefer our own for the Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan MMM Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hi Will, it doesn't both me but I can see that it could be an issue for some people. I will pass your concerns on to the website development team. cheers duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 In the old days, all communication with staff and customers had to be equality proofed under the Equality Act 2010. This included ensuring such material was either legible or provided in alternative formats on request. The onus on compliance was greatest for the public sector and least for small firms. Many firms use in house styles now and tend not to use coloured backgrounds because a coloured web based font is better. I do not know what the law is currently although I do know Apple are masters on web based fonts and page design. Page layout has a big impact on the speed of loading and so minimalist approaches have their supporters. Good examples of recently designed web sites include the Caravan Club website - but not the forums. Fun members do not seem to object to anything in public that Jim does but he listens in private so I am told and the forum design is fine by me, the Practical Motorhome forum is awful to my eyes as I prefer softer colours, Motorhome Facts almost had a mutiny when its forum was changed and quite a few members drifted away as a result, Motorhomeowners is a pleasant website if you can enlarge the screen view as the text is small. I find the Warners pages 'too much' although the important content remains excellent so I can live with the new layout. Like others, Warners will not be able to please all of us all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The problem that I see with the tabs that Will85 is complaining about is that the font used is wrong: it is 'thin' and also it does not sit central in the tab so that some of the bottoms of the letters actually overlap the border of the tab and the text is a poor contrast to the background. Although I am adversly affected by poor website design and have complained in the past about this one when a previous 'improvement' was made causing me to have a headache soon after straining to read some of the text, the tab design in question here does not cause me a problem but they could certainly be better. The 'new' Motorhome fn website is awful: I was about to pay a subscription when they changed it and the instant headaches caused by straining to read such pale text on a glaring background that I decided not to. Things can be improved both here and there by pressing 'Ctrl +' to increase the text size but that should not be necessary and in fact can make the missaligment of the text in the tabs worse. You can keep pressing Ctrl + until the right handside adverts dissapear though! Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I made a light hearted comment earlier but to be serious, I have Glaucoma and Macular Degeneration and need twice yearly check ups for it. I have no difficulty with the boxes as described but I have 2 serious suggestions to make. 1. You can enlarge the font on any webpage. I currently have all my regular forums etc set to 120%. 2. If you are having some difficulty, have you had this attended to by an Optician? If not then you are a potential danger to other road users. This is not meant in a nasty way. I have known many men (it is usually a 'man' thing) who are too vain to wear spectacles when they badly need them. I have even refused to be driven by them in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashpark Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Derek Uzzell - 2015-09-21 8:55 AM Would forum members prefer the colour-related approach used on the Motorhome Fum forums? http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/in-terms-of-motorhoming-how-do-you-define-freeloading.116158/ Not me, the stuff in there is far too blue for my liking :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBW Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I agree entirely with Will85, A blue block and a faint black text is difficult for any eyesight, I checked with younger ones in our household who agree with me. Make the text BOLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will86 Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Pastel colours with black font is the better answer, as displayed on Motorhome Fun but I'm not sure about lots of different colours as Derek suggests. Its not about tarting up the pages. The site will be viewed regardless of colours. Plain and readable is all that's necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Will85 - 2015-09-23 6:51 PM Plain and readable is all that's necessary. Yes yes yes: not a lot of people ( web designers ) seem to know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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