Specialist Sat-Navs Garmin 660LMT Any Good ?? and Sorry

[Noody]

Tracker - 2016-10-30 12:45 PM

 

I find a dedicated sat nav much easier to use than a smartphone so I continue to use an old TomTom with outdated maps, with a decent road map when in doubt, and a large dollop of common sense at all times, to avoid obstacles, and funnily enough it seems to work.

 

Whilst my parners help with smartphone using Google does work better most of the time, in fact I'll stick my neck out to say all of the time we arrange to meet at an obscure CL in the middle of nowhere she always gets there first time. When she is navigating in the van and it's Google -V-TomTom the route is often different and always gets us to the door without any input from her.

 

In the meantime I'm going to have to adopt your method by using a map and common sense though when I'm driving alone I find navigating to be difficult. Not easy to pull over when you need to and often many things in my event horizon I need to concentrate on rather than navigating.

[Bulletguy]

DJA - 2016-10-30 11:52 AM

 

Hi Bulletguy

The TT GO 750 was released in about 2009 I think and bears no resemblance to the current Nav4 units that they sell. I am not sure when but TT bought their map supplier so it is now inhouse which may explain why their maps are now more detailed over a greater area.

 

In some ways the older units were better operating wise but TT had to change their software following their legal action with Microsoft. They are gradually updating the newer units to incorporate some of the missing old units facilities to add to the newer features they have introduced. Now you just type in the Co-ords in any of 3 formats and you don’t need to have selected a country before inputting a destination.

 

On my GO5000:-

 

The Serbian Co-ords are half way between Zasavica 1 and Zasavica 2 on the road to what I see on Google Earth is the Zasavica Special Nature Reserve, Vojvodina, Serbia

 

The Albanian co-ords take me to Barbullush to a point just off the right hand side of the K1/K29 turning off the SH29. I see on Google Earth this is a campsite.

 

 

Hi Doug

 

Yes both those are the correct locations so that's interesting as it would appear that TT have finally updated their mapping. My Go750 was bought new in 2010 and though it lists many East European countries in it's mapping, if i input either of those co-ords it flashes up "no known location near cursor". My Garmin on the other hand finds those no problem.

 

I like TT units for their simplicity to operate, Garmin are a bit more 'obscure' and it takes time to get used to the menu and getting the right settings for co-ord readings. What i most like about the Camper 760 is the screen clarity and the audio which is excellent compared with the "tinny" sound of smaller units.

 

I find that odd about the street in your locality and when i looked at it on Google Earth it was even more baffling as to how Garmin have got that! Had it been a recent development i could understand it, but it's not. Their 'tech dept' need to sort things like that out!

 

I will have to have a look at that Mapcode you mentioned....never heard of it before so thanks for the tip!

[Bulletguy]

Tracker - 2016-10-30 12:45 PM

 

Ordnance Survey have developed their sat nav database which they sell to sat nav providers and their revised mapping might be worth either having or waiting for?

 

https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/resources/sat-nav-data.html

 

I find a dedicated sat nav much easier to use than a smartphone so I continue to use an old TomTom with outdated maps, with a decent road map when in doubt, and a large dollop of common sense at all times, to avoid obstacles, and funnily enough it seems to work.

 

I think it safe to assume most of us on here come from pre-sat nav days and way before i'd had my first gps i'd already driven a fair few European countries by maps. I used to pre-plan at home, note the road numbers, do a rough draft in pen, then type in (had an old BBC pc and dot matrix printer!) and print off black on yellow paper (easy to read at a glance!), then stick that on the dashboard.

 

However i've always been a bit of a map freak and have loads of OS maps, also road mapping for most countries i've toured in. I still enjoy opening up a full map and spending ages pouring over it to look for new places!

 

If "into" maps there was a very good documentary about the OS on BBC4 last week.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06b36q3

 

[DJA]

Hi Bulletguy

 

I have a friend who has recently added the Camper and Caravan map to their Tomtom Via Live 120 that they have had for a few years. They did this as the unit worked okay, it is able to take the C & C map, enables him to input vehicle dimensions and meant that he retained the operating system prior to the newer Go Nav4 units that are sold today. Also the Nav4 units do not have a C & C unit only a truck version.

 

I asked him to see if he could get the Long and Lat figures you asked about in Serbia and it works perfectly pin pointing exactly the road into the Nature Reserve. It shows however that the exact Mapcode for that Long and Lat is srb8VH.TN7.

 

Regarding you comment about liking the TT GO 950 way of working and that the Garmin was a little more fiddly I would say you would probably find getting used to the newer Go Nav 4 units the same as learning the Garmin. They are totally different to previous TT units. You can see if the C & C map would go on you GO950 however I suspect it is probably too early a version.

 

The following shows the compatible units:-

 

Below is a list of devices that are compatible with Camper and Caravan maps.

 

GO 820/825 devices with the serial prefixes: FA, FB, FT, FU, and FY

VIA devices with the serial prefixes: AR, AS, AU, AV, AW, AX, BM, BN, BO, BP, BS, BT, BQ, FL, and FN

START devices with the serial prefixes: AO, AY, BK, BL, WM, WN, and WO

GO devices with the serial prefixes: FQ, SJ, SM, SP, SR, ST, and SQ

 

The serial prefix is the first two digits of your serial number, which can usually be found on a barcode on the bottom or back of your device. The serial number always starts with a letter and consists of 12 digits in total.

 

Doug

[shaggy]

Since a lot of sat navs now seem to be available in larger screens 7" etc. it would be useful if they could produce a split screen option, one side showing the immediate route ahead (as now) and the other side showing the route to be taken from a more zoomed out perspective. You could then see if the proposed route involved cutting unnecessary corners using small lanes and then avoid following the sat navs instructions.

[Will86]

Then the answer to that is simple by going over the route before you set off so you know what the main points are along the way. Unless of course you are on a busy 'holiday route' and seek an easier alternative.

 

Will

[david lloyd]

DJA - 2016-10-31 10:23 AM

 

Hi Bulletguy

 

I have a friend who has recently added the Camper and Caravan map to their Tomtom Via Live 120 that they have had for a few years. They did this as the unit worked okay, it is able to take the C & C map, enables him to input vehicle dimensions and meant that he retained the operating system prior to the newer Go Nav4 units that are sold today. Also the Nav4 units do not have a C & C unit only a truck version.

 

I asked him to see if he could get the Long and Lat figures you asked about in Serbia and it works perfectly pin pointing exactly the road into the Nature Reserve. It shows however that the exact Mapcode for that Long and Lat is srb8VH.TN7.

 

Regarding you comment about liking the TT GO 950 way of working and that the Garmin was a little more fiddly I would say you would probably find getting used to the newer Go Nav 4 units the same as learning the Garmin. They are totally different to previous TT units. You can see if the C & C map would go on you GO950 however I suspect it is probably too early a version.

 

The following shows the compatible units:-

 

Below is a list of devices that are compatible with Camper and Caravan maps.

 

GO 820/825 devices with the serial prefixes: FA, FB, FT, FU, and FY

VIA devices with the serial prefixes: AR, AS, AU, AV, AW, AX, BM, BN, BO, BP, BS, BT, BQ, FL, and FN

START devices with the serial prefixes: AO, AY, BK, BL, WM, WN, and WO

GO devices with the serial prefixes: FQ, SJ, SM, SP, SR, ST, and SQ

 

The serial prefix is the first two digits of your serial number, which can usually be found on a barcode on the bottom or back of your device. The serial number always starts with a letter and consists of 12 digits in total.

 

Doug

 

Hi Doug,

 

Just as a thought - my TT Go720 is not on the list that can accept the Camper maps but if I were to change I can still purchase a new or refurbished TT Go Camper (1000 I think) for a fairly reasonable price. However, these have been discontinued and I presume the Trucker Model superseded this. But would it be worth it?

 

I still have some concerns about the Garmin truck version but it does have better reviews than the TT Trucker. Both are fairly expensive but does the TT Camper still do a fairly good job of giving more appropriate routes and have the usual facilities such as downloading POI's etc.

 

Do you have any experience of this unit?

 

David

[DJA]

Hi David

 

Now you have put me on the spot.

 

I have a friend who has an old Via Live 120 onto which they have loaded the Camper/Caravan map. It does recommend routes which differ from those it would suggest for a Car and I have seen it recommend different routes to that suggested by a Garmin which were usually longer. They have however only used it for a 3500kg van and have had no problems with the route suggestions. The other advantage is that it works just like it did originally and enabling you to find POI's, Create your own POI categories and add POI sites to them all on the unit. I suspect but am not sure but it may have more Campsite etc POI's on it than the normal Car unit but you could of course add your own. You will have to pay for any updates for maps , cameras, traffic and live services. You can if you like display one or more POI category of POI's on the map permanently with their own Icons if you want and get a warning if near them as well I think.

 

If you go for the current Truck unit the you will have to learn the new operating methodogy. Lifetime map updates are included but Cameras and Traffic are on subscription unless you buy the Lifetime unit. It is I suspect unlikely to have much in the way of POI's for campers etc however you can add your own POI files etc. You cannot display or warnings for the POI's on the map except when you are in search mode and then only those found in the search. You cannot set a max speed for your unit so arrivals times are likely to be wrong. You can add your own POI files but you cannot create your own POI categories or add POi files to them on the unit. The latter could be resolved at the moment by keeping your old GO720 unit and updating POI files on it and then copying to the Truck unit. One other thing is that the truck units have inbuilt Sim cards which mean that you do not incur Roaming Charges for your purchased Traffic and Camera services within Europe.

 

On thing to be aware of is that the new Nav4 units maps are much bigger and can take a long time to download if you have very slow internet. In fact I believe if it is really slow you can have problems maintaining the connection with the TT servers. You have to ensure any old unit you get has the ability to add extra memory otherwise you have to load the Map Zones and then you can change the map on the unit if for example you go to Germany from France. This means if you travel around Europe a lot you need to have your Computer with you with the MapZones already on it so you can change the units maps when required.

 

One feature on the new Nav4 units and so I assume is on the Truck unit is the ability to create Routes on your computer or the unit and then transfer them to the unit. We recently did half the North Coast 500 and I downloaded the whole route to my unit and then my GO 5000 sorted out a route to the start. I could not get the Garmin Camper to do this properly. So you can sort out lots of routes and save them on the Unit. With the inbuilt Sim if you had a problem and had to restore the unit to its original condition it will restore your POI files and Routes to your unit even in Europe with no roaming Charges. You can record the route you are travelling and save it. You could send this route to someone else for them to follow if they wanted it.

 

Hope this is of some help.

[david lloyd]

Hi Doug and thank you - you have been ever so helpful.

 

I spoke to a friend earlier today who upgraded his TT to a Go 6100 and is very pleased with it so far - although it still has its little quirks regarding routing. I have also been ploughing through many reviews and reports and one thing that leaps out at me is the fact that all the 'dedicated' units for trucks or campers simply rely on using roads that have a 'legal' speed or width or weight restriction which simply does not help with regards to avoiding any unsuitable roads that do not have such legal restrictions. The concerns us seems to be that it is a lot more money for something that will not really do what I require and that, in fact, such restricted roads can be downloaded anyway onto my map.

 

Having said all that I am still of the view that my ten year old unit has served me well but may be due for retirement and was thinking seriously then of getting the Go 5100 or 6100 but having read their specification noticed that they do not have hands free calling which was something I would like and have on my present unit. This has left me thinking that the best way to go maybe a Go 5200 or 6200 which now does have this facility.

 

I wonder how much my wife is thinking of spending on my Christmas present.........

 

David

[david lloyd]

An update on buying a new satnav.

 

I eventually decided to buy the new Go 5200 due to the additional features such as wifi for updating and hands free calling. Halfords had a deal with 20% off which made it £239.99 although I did later contact TomTom direct telling them I was an existing customer and would like to stay with TT and they offered me a discount of 25% but I had just purchased from halfords due to the delay in TT replying.

 

Used the 5200 this weekend for the first time and, although it does take a bit of getting used to after my old 720, it worked really well. Arriving home it showed 3 updates for download so I connected to wifi and started the updating. After a few minutes it disconnected from the wifi and I couldn't get it to reconnect. You have the option of plugging it into the computer via a USB port and use the TT Connect software to update so I did this. To cut a long story short it went on for hours and, in the end, I stopped the download. The device had lost ALL the maps and when I tried to use the ADD MAPS facility found I couldn't load Europe or UK. It would start downloading, get to a certain point and then go back nearly to the start. After spending the best part of ten hours on it I gave up, packaged it up and took it back to Halfords on Monday.

 

Halfords insisted they had to ring TT for advice and asked me to explain the problem to them over the phone. The guy wanted me to connect the unit to wifi but I explained I was still at the shop and eventually he authorised an exchange unit.

 

I came home and set up the new unit, connecting it to wifi, my phone etc and then I had 3 updates to download. Connected to wifi and clicked download, it started then disconnected - is this sounding familiar? It went exactly the same way as the previous one and I spent all day until about 10.30 last night refusing to believe it could be the same problem. However, whilst waiting for it to do yet another attempt at downloading I had a look at the TT Support page and, behold, there is a thread (with over 13000 posts) which was far too lengthy to read through but skipped to the end to read a post from someone at TT Netherlands explaining that they hoped to finally have a fix soon for the problems caused with the latest version of maps that were released a few weeks ago. This seems to have been the problem I was grappling with.

 

After receiving the exchange unit TT emailed me with a link to their support team in case I had any further trouble so I used that to explain the difficulties I was having. It's just a shame that the guy I spoke to when he arranged the new unit did not advise me not to do the download as I feel sure, with that amount of interest on their support forum, they would have known this would happen again. I am, naturally, bitterly disappointed as I have always favoured TomTom products and we are due to leave for our winter trip to Spain shortly so do not want any uncertainty about the effectiveness of the satnav. I asked them to contact me first thing if there was a way of fixing the problem but, as no one has called, I am thinking of returning the unit to Halfords and seeking a full refund.

 

Glad I kept the trusty old Go 720.

 

Davud

[StuartO]

paul_richardson - 2016-10-28 5:25 PMI too am certain all of the settings in my Garmin are correct, but it still sends us off the beaten track.I wondered if anyone know of a "proper" sat nav that uses Google, seems like an obvious product to me.Regards,Paul

 

Are you using "shortest distance" rather than "fastest route" as a navigational option?  That would send you down the back roads.

 

[dougal]

Hi

 

I recently had to change my Tom Tom Start as it fell off the dash once to often and broke the socket from the PCB. I managed to re-solder the socket and it now charges, but will not talk to the PC. I thought I would have a change and bought a Garmin for a change - only to find you cannot load third party POI - a pain as I want to select camp sites and ACSI/Archies etc. sites from the map. LPG would also be nice. I sent it back for a refund and went into Halfords, to find new Tom Toms do not let you put third party POI on device. The manager said all the 'new' ones were the same. In the end I bought an 'old' Start and loaded hundreds of POI. No 7inch were left so I bought a 5 inch.

 

Just for information as it looks as if many new ones are the same - PROGRESS !!!XXX???

[silverback]

dougal - 2016-11-29 12:46 PM

 

Hi

 

I recently had to change my Tom Tom Start as it fell off the dash once to often and broke the socket from the PCB. I managed to re-solder the socket and it now charges, but will not talk to the PC. I thought I would have a change and bought a Garmin for a change - only to find you cannot load third party POI - a pain as I want to select camp sites and ACSI/Archies etc. sites from the map. LPG would also be nice. I sent it back for a refund and went into Halfords, to find new Tom Toms do not let you put third party POI on device. The manager said all the 'new' ones were the same. In the end I bought an 'old' Start and loaded hundreds of POI. No 7inch were left so I bought a 5 inch.

 

Just for information as it looks as if many new ones are the same - PROGRESS !!!XXX???

 

 

 

not quite sure what you mean cos i load 3rd party poi's all the time on my garmin 760 altough it is 2 year old so maybe new ones dont, i have lpg,search for sites, archies, asci, etc all on mine, they have to be in csv format for garmin.

Jonathan

[DJA]

Hi David

 

I don't know whether you have tried this but if not I would suggest the following.

 

Load one update at a time and at end of each update do a reset by holding the on button for about 20 secs until you hear the drum roll. I would recommend this every time.

 

Secondly if it had the full Europe map on it when you got it which has full 3D buildings the replacement map which has full 3D Buildings is to large for the internal memory so you need to install a Micro SD Card and let the unit format it ready for maps. Alternatively you can choose to install a smaller map which is for example could be as I have Europe with 3D buildings UK only. This will then go onto the internal memory and has the benefit of enabling you to download routes to the unit via the extra memory slot which at the moment you cannot do if you have the current Full 3d Buildings map installed. I don't miss the buildings as they can get in the way in big cities and make seeing turnings a little more difficult.

 

There was a problem for about a day with the new maps V980 when they were made available but they should be working now as they have loaded on mine the other day.

 

It has been said that sometimes you cannot see the other world maps you can now access for download but if you contact customer support and they ensure they are added to you account.

 

Also I have commented that if you broadband is very slow then you can possibly have problems maintaining connection to the TT servers. If this is the case do you know someone with faster broadband. Mine can do a map download and install in about 1 1/2 hrs on my GO5000.

 

Good luck

 

Doug

 

 

 

[david lloyd]

DJA - 2016-11-29 2:35 PM

 

Hi David

 

I don't know whether you have tried this but if not I would suggest the following.

 

Load one update at a time and at end of each update do a reset by holding the on button for about 20 secs until you hear the drum roll. I would recommend this every time.

 

Secondly if it had the full Europe map on it when you got it which has full 3D buildings the replacement map which has full 3D Buildings is to large for the internal memory so you need to install a Micro SD Card and let the unit format it ready for maps. Alternatively you can choose to install a smaller map which is for example could be as I have Europe with 3D buildings UK only. This will then go onto the internal memory and has the benefit of enabling you to download routes to the unit via the extra memory slot which at the moment you cannot do if you have the current Full 3d Buildings map installed. I don't miss the buildings as they can get in the way in big cities and make seeing turnings a little more difficult.

 

There was a problem for about a day with the new maps V980 when they were made available but they should be working now as they have loaded on mine the other day.

 

It has been said that sometimes you cannot see the other world maps you can now access for download but if you contact customer support and they ensure they are added to you account.

 

Also I have commented that if you broadband is very slow then you can possibly have problems maintaining connection to the TT servers. If this is the case do you know someone with faster broadband. Mine can do a map download and install in about 1 1/2 hrs on my GO5000.

 

Good luck

 

Doug

 

 

 

Hi Doug, thank you very much for the information.

 

I have been in contact with TomTom most of the day via phone and email and they have tried to rectify my problems which, as you say, originated with the release of a corrupted map update that has played havoc with not just my unit but many thousands of others. As people then tried to re-download the TT servers were overloaded and this caused further attempts at downloading as people tried again and again to retry the download. My problem now is resolvable but normally the servers will attempt the download for several times before giving up. I, like many others, tried various ways of effecting the download by stopping and restarting it or trying another way. In addition, this was compounded by either my internet connection giving up, the computer going to sleep (before I reset the power management) or losing the wifi signal to the unit. Each and every time such an interruption occurred the download would restart not with a new set of attempts but where it left off and add the next set of downloads to the queue. Consequently, I have many attempted downloads (of the 'corrupted' map) to go through before my unit reaches the new, clean map at the end.

 

Phew, but after the last call to TT half an hour ago the download process (which I described earlier as getting so far then reverting to near the start) has continued past the point at which it had stopped and looks as if it is still going. Still some way to go but hopefully I am near the end. Once this is completed I have some email instructions on how to clear the old, corrupt maps from the computer and ensure I have the clean map updates.

 

So that's another day of my life nearly over. We're not there yet so tomorrow may need more time spent on it but I am a little more hopeful than I was last night.

 

As for space, because there are no maps currently on the unit there is something like 12+ GB left and the Western Europe map I am trying to download is something like 6 GB so I should be ok. When I could access the map index they were all visible but I may do as you suggest and get a micro SD card for the future. What size do you recommend?

 

Finally, as I was clearly having rouble with the Internet connection I rang BT today who confirmed there were no problems but could see the signal had dropped out once or twice in the last few days but that the 'norm' was about five times! The line speed is 18mps which is at the top end for copper wire (Infinity not available in our area yet) but they did recommend I connect the computer via an Ethernet cable which has proved to be much faster and more reliable I have to say. Wifi is not helped by the fact that we are still using the old HomeHub 2.0 and I have discussed upgrading this equipment when we return to the UK in the spring as our contract is up for renewal.

 

Again, thanks for your help.

David

[DJA]

Hi David

 

I forgot that on the GO5200 you have a bigger internal memory. Must keep up!!

 

It has been said on the TT forum that a 16GB card will be sufficient to carry all the maps you can download. On mine and I suspect yours , have not checked, the max is 32GB. It is recommended you get something like a Sandisk, I have a Samsung in mine and thats fine. Some cards don't seem to work.

 

When you insert the card it should ask you if you want to format it for Maps or Routes. Regarding the latter a much smaller card will carry loads of routes but you should be aware that if you want to load routes onto the unit, or from it, the Map to which the routes relate, at the moment, must be on the internal memory. It is to be hoped this will be resolved. If I put the full European Map with 3D buildings on the my unit it has to go on the additional memory because of the map size. As a result I could not then copy saved routes from it to a card formated for routes because I have to take the Map card out to put the route card in. This is resolved by having a Full European map with only 3D buildings in the UK.

 

Glad to hear you are getting there. Pity you are so ar away from us as I have just upgraded my Hub from a 4 to a new Smart hub. You could have had mine old one. Fibre is good (59mps) but I have to say if you are getting 18mps thats far more than we used to get pre Fibre.

 

Good luck.

 

Doug

[Brian Kirby]

But, and for me it is a significant but, none of the maps in current use (car or tuck variants) carry actual road width data. The "truck" type mapping does include data on height, width, and weight restrictions, but not on the widths of otherwise un-restricted roads. As a way around this, the routing logic is set to prioritise main roads and dual carriageways, which will generally exclude narrow roads. This means that many perfectly negotiable roads are discounted from routes in case they are too narrow for comfort with a large vehicle.

 

So, while the truck versions will probably keep you clear of narrow roads, they are liable to confine you to busier less agreeable roads in lieu of the many miles of quiet, perfectly good, secondaries.

 

A bit of work with a decent map, and the insertion of a few waypoints, is all that is required to persuade the non-truck type sat-navs to follow quiet, scenic, reasonably direct, routes avoiding narrow roads.

 

Whether anyone else thinks this worthwhile is a obviously matter of preference, but it has worked very well for us - at least to the extent that we have not (yet! :-)) got ourselves into trouble on narrow roads (most of which actually have passing places, albeit not always officially designated as such).

[david lloyd]

Brian Kirby - 2016-11-29 6:42 PM

 

But, and for me it is a significant but, none of the maps in current use (car or tuck variants) carry actual road width data. The "truck" type mapping does include data on height, width, and weight restrictions, but not on the widths of otherwise un-restricted roads. As a way around this, the routing logic is set to prioritise main roads and dual carriageways, which will generally exclude narrow roads. This means that many perfectly negotiable roads are discounted from routes in case they are too narrow for comfort with a large vehicle.

 

So, while the truck versions will probably keep you clear of narrow roads, they are liable to confine you to busier less agreeable roads in lieu of the many miles of quiet, perfectly good, secondaries.

 

A bit of work with a decent map, and the insertion of a few waypoints, is all that is required to persuade the non-truck type sat-navs to follow quiet, scenic, reasonably direct, routes avoiding narrow roads.

 

Whether anyone else thinks this worthwhile is a obviously matter of preference, but it has worked very well for us - at least to the extent that we have not (yet! :-)) got ourselves into trouble on narrow roads (most of which actually have passing places, albeit not always officially designated as such).

 

Yes this is exactly right Brian and the reason why I chose not to pay the extra for a truck specific version. Once I knew that the only difference is that the only difference is that they use data on roads that have specific height/weight/width restrictions I realised it would still not prevent some of the difficulties we have experienced now and then.

 

In particular, there have been occasions when we have been making a turn into what looks like a nice wide road entrance with centre bollards only to find that firer down the road it gets narrower and narrower but has no specific weight or width restriction.

 

I am now happy with the Go 5200 and have finally overcome the problems created by the TomTom upgrade so, fingers crossed, it will be plain sailing from here in in.

 

David

[Noody]

I have been quietly following this thread and whilst my use only includes the UK at the moment and for the foreseeable future I have realised there could be a lot of improvements made to my GO 950 but whilst I'm not a complete dunce with my computer I am a basic user/fiddler.

 

The battery on my TT needs changing, I could insert a micro sim but I don't really know what to do about uploading camper/caravan routes.

 

I stopped paying for map updates because the two I payed for since buying the TT still didn't displayed road changes that were were several years old.

 

Any advice to get me moving in the right direction would be appreciated.

[DJA]

Hi Noody

 

One option is to consider whether to buy and load the Camper/Caravan map on your GO950. If you go to the following webpage it will give you information about what units will work with the map.

 

http://uk.support.tomtom.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/16185

 

If it will work then this will enable you to continue using your existing unit with the old operating system which enables you to operate POI's as before. Some POI features are not available on the new units.

 

If you load the map, which you put on a Micro SD card not a sim, then you will be able to enter vehicle type, weight and dimension data for your unit and max speed. I have a friend with a Via 120 Live who has gone down this route and it works fine. It definitely chooses different routes to those for a car. If you do this the map, traffic and camera data are not available on a lifetime update basis.

 

If your unit is compatable then it is no more difficult than an update.

 

Doug