mids Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Hi just received my tag. Just wanted to know the best place to fix it on a 2014 boxer cab. Conflicting information on web. Mine has a grey back and black front,does it mater what way round it goes an Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggsspud11 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 it tells you on it ,bottom left on corner of windscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Are you sure about that? My understanding was that a Liber-t tag should NORMALLY be positioned in the centre-top of the windscreen as advised here https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/support/tag-installation/ https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/faq/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mids Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 As you can sse conflicting information thought it had to go on the black area behind rear view mirror,but my concern is thr slight over hang of roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 If you GOOGLE on “Liber-t tag position” you’ll find plenty of discussion about positioning the tag when it’s not practicable to fix it behind the rear-view mirror. In fact, if you read down the advice in the 1st link I provided above, you’ll find the following statement "NB. If you have a small motorhome with a "luton" / overhanging sleeping compartment you MUST ensure that the Tag has "line of sight" with the reader (i.e. can see the reader on top of the pole). If you install the tag behind the rear vision mirror it may not be able to see the Tag reader and will not work - in this instance you have to put the tag at the bottom of the windscreen BUT ONLY if you do not have an athermic windscreen.” If your motorhome’s windscreen has a black/mottled area behind the rear-view mirror, that’s where it’s best to position the tag. If the motorhome’s roof only overhangs the windscreen slightly, that should be OK. A really large overhang could be a problem, but you should be able to make a reasonable guess as to whether the tag will be ‘seeable’ if it’s behind the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneb Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I have ours bottom centre of the windscreen, because it interfered with the dashcam that I have mounted to the internal rear view mirror mounting if placed at the top of the screen. It is roughly at a similar height to the upper edge of most car windscreens, so I reasoned that it should be fine, and it has worked faultlessly at all the toll booths we have encountered so far, including the non-stop lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsnends Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Was in a coach in December and the tour guide unclipped it and waved it about until it beeped :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Deneb - 2018-02-04 4:29 PM I have ours bottom centre of the windscreen, because it interfered with the dashcam that I have mounted to the internal rear view mirror mounting if placed at the top of the screen. It is roughly at a similar height to the upper edge of most car windscreens, so I reasoned that it should be fine, and it has worked faultlessly at all the toll booths we have encountered so far, including the non-stop lanes. Hi I also have mine fitted to the bottom centre of the windscreen so the blinds can be closed without removing the tag and it works fine. i think it's only a problem if a heated screen is fitted. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 According to Sanef’s installation instructions https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/support/tag-installation/ potential problems can result if the vehicle’s windscreen is "HEATED / ATHERMIC / METALLIC” and the tag is positioned wrongly. This BMW forum thread discusses the issue http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1134493 It’s tempting to think, if a windscreen has a shaded/mottled area behind the rear-view mirror, that the screen is ‘athermic’ and putting the tag elsewhere may cause problems. However, my Ducato’s windscreen has a shaded/mottled area behind the mirror and, although the screen is tinted, I don’t believe it is ‘athermic’ and, even if a tag were not placed behind the mirror, I’m confident it would work OK. As Deneb says above, the base of a motorhome’s windscreen is about the same height from the ground as the top of a car’s windscreen. So unless the motorhome has a ‘funny’ windscreen that prevents the receiver on the toll gantry from reading the tag, placing the tag at the windscreen’s bottom-centre should be perfectly OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storth Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I went through all the issues raised in this thread, having recently obtained a new van and a Bip and Go and already having a Liber-t tag from previous van. I now have a Pilote Galaxy with no rear view mirror and no clue what sort of windscreen. The advice from Sanef was to wave the tag out of the window if it didn't work. In the event I found both tags worked perfectly well if placed lying on the dash in front of the steering wheel. On the odd occasion that I approached the sensor too fast an aimless waving of the thing was enough to lift the barrier.. However, if going into Iberia, beware the first/last Spanish toll at Irun where these things don't work, apparently. Have some change ready and head for the (only) paybooth or risk having to reverse against a tide of juggernauts straight off the Pyrennees. Also don't plan to transfer your Bip and Go to a hire car in Portugal. Sanef has admitted you can't as there is no agreement with the toll operator, apparently. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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