Brian Kirby Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-01-22 1:24 PM 1.........…….Are you serious? :D ...........There is NO PROOF Brexit will damage the UK *-) ......... 2 There is only Remoaners trying to blame the fact that big businesses are relocating to low wage economies on Brexit >:-) ............. 3 Has JLR said they wouldn't move work to Slovakia if Brexit was cancelled?......NO! :D ........... 1 Perfectly, as you endlessly prove. 2 It is the businesses themselves who say that is the reason. 3 But, OTOH, they have said it is one of the reasons for the move. You can pretend all you wish, but the UK is an expensive place to manufacture, and Brexit would make it more so for many firms. So, any large manufacturing exporter is bound to consider where is the most economical place to site its production. If it finds lower labour costs, and cheaper land in the EU but outside the UK, and if Brexit would further increase the cost of UK production, why would it not site is next major manufacturing base outside the UK but inside the EU, as JLR (among others) has confirmed it intends doing? What then happens to the JLR jobs? What happens to their workers' homes? What happens to the local shops now the workers are redundant? What happens to the government and local authority tax income they generated? What happens to the local schools and health services those taxes currently buy? How many JLR vehicles will those less wealthy workers now buy? What happens to the dealers who used to sell them? What happens to the garages that used to service and repair them? That is just JLR. What about the other companies that are making similar announcements? You have your eyes closed and your ears covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 So after much research, and possibly a very nice Rioja, this is all you can come up with on Dominic Grieve Dave. I'd give you one pat on the back for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-01-22 3:10 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-22 1:24 PM 1.........…….Are you serious? :D ...........There is NO PROOF Brexit will damage the UK *-) ......... 2 There is only Remoaners trying to blame the fact that big businesses are relocating to low wage economies on Brexit >:-) ............. 3 Has JLR said they wouldn't move work to Slovakia if Brexit was cancelled?......NO! :D ........... 1 Perfectly, as you endlessly prove. 2 It is the businesses themselves who say that is the reason. 3 But, OTOH, they have said it is one of the reasons for the move. You can pretend all you wish, but the UK is an expensive place to manufacture, and Brexit would make it more so for many firms. So, any large manufacturing exporter is bound to consider where is the most economical place to site its production. If it finds lower labour costs, and cheaper land in the EU but outside the UK, and if Brexit would further increase the cost of UK production, why would it not site is next major manufacturing base outside the UK but inside the EU, as JLR (among others) has confirmed it intends doing? What then happens to the JLR jobs? What happens to their workers' homes? What happens to the local shops now the workers are redundant? What happens to the government and local authority tax income they generated? What happens to the local schools and health services those taxes currently buy? How many JLR vehicles will those less wealthy workers now buy? What happens to the dealers who used to sell them? What happens to the garages that used to service and repair them? That is just JLR. What about the other companies that are making similar announcements? You have your eyes closed and your ears covered. If things are so dire........ why have we got the best employment since 1975? ;-) ..........and why are wages growing at the fastest rate for over a decade? :D .......... You really do need to take your fingers out of your ears and remove the blinkers *-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-01-22 10:32 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-01-22 3:10 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-22 1:24 PM 1.........…….Are you serious? :D ...........There is NO PROOF Brexit will damage the UK *-) ......... 2 There is only Remoaners trying to blame the fact that big businesses are relocating to low wage economies on Brexit >:-) ............. 3 Has JLR said they wouldn't move work to Slovakia if Brexit was cancelled?......NO! :D ........... 1 Perfectly, as you endlessly prove. 2 It is the businesses themselves who say that is the reason. 3 But, OTOH, they have said it is one of the reasons for the move. You can pretend all you wish, but the UK is an expensive place to manufacture, and Brexit would make it more so for many firms. So, any large manufacturing exporter is bound to consider where is the most economical place to site its production. If it finds lower labour costs, and cheaper land in the EU but outside the UK, and if Brexit would further increase the cost of UK production, why would it not site is next major manufacturing base outside the UK but inside the EU, as JLR (among others) has confirmed it intends doing? What then happens to the JLR jobs? What happens to their workers' homes? What happens to the local shops now the workers are redundant? What happens to the government and local authority tax income they generated? What happens to the local schools and health services those taxes currently buy? How many JLR vehicles will those less wealthy workers now buy? What happens to the dealers who used to sell them? What happens to the garages that used to service and repair them? That is just JLR. What about the other companies that are making similar announcements? You have your eyes closed and your ears covered. If things are so dire........ why have we got the best employment since 1975? ;-) ..........and why are wages growing at the fastest rate for over a decade? :D .......... You do realise that just one hour per week is counted as employment.....including self-employed and those who had a job they were temporarily away from, those on government-supported training and employment programmes, and those doing unpaid family work? How else do you think government get these amazing "employment" figures for dummies like you to swallow the hype? *-) You really do need to take your fingers out of your ears and remove the blinkers *-) ....... You certainly do.....and get that wax syringed out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 10:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-22 10:32 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-01-22 3:10 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-22 1:24 PM 1.........…….Are you serious? :D ...........There is NO PROOF Brexit will damage the UK *-) ......... 2 There is only Remoaners trying to blame the fact that big businesses are relocating to low wage economies on Brexit >:-) ............. 3 Has JLR said they wouldn't move work to Slovakia if Brexit was cancelled?......NO! :D ........... 1 Perfectly, as you endlessly prove. 2 It is the businesses themselves who say that is the reason. 3 But, OTOH, they have said it is one of the reasons for the move. You can pretend all you wish, but the UK is an expensive place to manufacture, and Brexit would make it more so for many firms. So, any large manufacturing exporter is bound to consider where is the most economical place to site its production. If it finds lower labour costs, and cheaper land in the EU but outside the UK, and if Brexit would further increase the cost of UK production, why would it not site is next major manufacturing base outside the UK but inside the EU, as JLR (among others) has confirmed it intends doing? What then happens to the JLR jobs? What happens to their workers' homes? What happens to the local shops now the workers are redundant? What happens to the government and local authority tax income they generated? What happens to the local schools and health services those taxes currently buy? How many JLR vehicles will those less wealthy workers now buy? What happens to the dealers who used to sell them? What happens to the garages that used to service and repair them? That is just JLR. What about the other companies that are making similar announcements? You have your eyes closed and your ears covered. If things are so dire........ why have we got the best employment since 1975? ;-) ..........and why are wages growing at the fastest rate for over a decade? :D .......... You do realise that just one hour per week is counted as employment.....including self-employed and those who had a job they were temporarily away from, those on government-supported training and employment programmes, and those doing unpaid family work? How else do you think government get these amazing "employment" figures for dummies like you to swallow the hype? *-) You really do need to take your fingers out of your ears and remove the blinkers *-) ....... You certainly do.....and get that wax syringed out as well. Seems to be plenty of work available for those who want to work more than 1 hour a week B-) .......... You really do need to get your quack to give you some happy pills Bullet ;-) ........... Although I'm beginning to think Remoaners are only happy when they're miserable (lol) (lol) (lol) ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-01-22 11:14 PM Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 10:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-22 10:32 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-01-22 3:10 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-22 1:24 PM 1.........…….Are you serious? :D ...........There is NO PROOF Brexit will damage the UK *-) ......... 2 There is only Remoaners trying to blame the fact that big businesses are relocating to low wage economies on Brexit >:-) ............. 3 Has JLR said they wouldn't move work to Slovakia if Brexit was cancelled?......NO! :D ........... 1 Perfectly, as you endlessly prove. 2 It is the businesses themselves who say that is the reason. 3 But, OTOH, they have said it is one of the reasons for the move. You can pretend all you wish, but the UK is an expensive place to manufacture, and Brexit would make it more so for many firms. So, any large manufacturing exporter is bound to consider where is the most economical place to site its production. If it finds lower labour costs, and cheaper land in the EU but outside the UK, and if Brexit would further increase the cost of UK production, why would it not site is next major manufacturing base outside the UK but inside the EU, as JLR (among others) has confirmed it intends doing? What then happens to the JLR jobs? What happens to their workers' homes? What happens to the local shops now the workers are redundant? What happens to the government and local authority tax income they generated? What happens to the local schools and health services those taxes currently buy? How many JLR vehicles will those less wealthy workers now buy? What happens to the dealers who used to sell them? What happens to the garages that used to service and repair them? That is just JLR. What about the other companies that are making similar announcements? You have your eyes closed and your ears covered. If things are so dire........ why have we got the best employment since 1975? ;-) ..........and why are wages growing at the fastest rate for over a decade? :D .......... You do realise that just one hour per week is counted as employment.....including self-employed and those who had a job they were temporarily away from, those on government-supported training and employment programmes, and those doing unpaid family work? How else do you think government get these amazing "employment" figures for dummies like you to swallow the hype? *-) You really do need to take your fingers out of your ears and remove the blinkers *-) ....... You certainly do.....and get that wax syringed out as well. Seems to be plenty of work available for those who want to work more than 1 hour a week B-) .......... Idiot......can't you comprehend a basic simple fact? This government counts all temps, zero hours, and part timers as fully employed......even unpaid family work. 1 hour per week now counts as "employment". It's all about 'massaging' the figures to make employment appear high when the truth is it's purely a distortion and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 11:26 PM Idiot......can't you comprehend a basic simple fact? This government counts all temps, zero hours, and part timers as fully employed......even unpaid family work. 1 hour per week now counts as "employment". It's all about 'massaging' the figures to make employment appear high when the truth is it's purely a distortion and nothing else. So how do you explain why employers are struggling to fill vacancies even in low skilled jobs? ;-) ...... You cant have it both ways.......without distorting the facts Idiot! >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-01-23 9:43 AM Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 11:26 PM Idiot......can't you comprehend a basic simple fact? This government counts all temps, zero hours, and part timers as fully employed......even unpaid family work. 1 hour per week now counts as "employment". It's all about 'massaging' the figures to make employment appear high when the truth is it's purely a distortion and nothing else. So how do you explain why employers are struggling to fill vacancies even in low skilled jobs? ;-) ...... You cant have it both ways.......without distorting the facts Idiot! >:-) ........... Many of those jobs were previously done by people from EU but you wanted them out. Seems like you're the one trying to have it both ways in believing 'employment is at it's highest' without fully understanding the consequence of massaging figures, only to now totally contradict yourself. The only distortion of fact is what i've shown you as to how government make these amazing claims and sell it to the gullible as truthful fact when it's obviously not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-01-23 7:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-23 9:43 AM Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 11:26 PM Idiot......can't you comprehend a basic simple fact? This government counts all temps, zero hours, and part timers as fully employed......even unpaid family work. 1 hour per week now counts as "employment". It's all about 'massaging' the figures to make employment appear high when the truth is it's purely a distortion and nothing else. So how do you explain why employers are struggling to fill vacancies even in low skilled jobs? ;-) ...... You cant have it both ways.......without distorting the facts Idiot! >:-) ........... Many of those jobs were previously done by people from EU but you wanted them out. Seems like you're the one trying to have it both ways in believing 'employment is at it's highest' without fully understanding the consequence of massaging figures, only to now totally contradict yourself. The only distortion of fact is what i've shown you as to how government make these amazing claims and sell it to the gullible as truthful fact when it's obviously not. The government cant distort the number job adverts ;-) .............and there's loads here in Weymouth :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-01-23 10:34 PM Bulletguy - 2019-01-23 7:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-23 9:43 AM Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 11:26 PM Idiot......can't you comprehend a basic simple fact? This government counts all temps, zero hours, and part timers as fully employed......even unpaid family work. 1 hour per week now counts as "employment". It's all about 'massaging' the figures to make employment appear high when the truth is it's purely a distortion and nothing else. So how do you explain why employers are struggling to fill vacancies even in low skilled jobs? ;-) ...... You cant have it both ways.......without distorting the facts Idiot! >:-) ........... Many of those jobs were previously done by people from EU but you wanted them out. Seems like you're the one trying to have it both ways in believing 'employment is at it's highest' without fully understanding the consequence of massaging figures, only to now totally contradict yourself. The only distortion of fact is what i've shown you as to how government make these amazing claims and sell it to the gullible as truthful fact when it's obviously not. The government cant distort the number job adverts ;-) .............and there's loads here in Weymouth :D ........ You'd better tell them they're wasting their time as according to you "employment is at it's highest level" so there won't be anyone available. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-01-24 2:00 AM pelmetman - 2019-01-23 10:34 PM Bulletguy - 2019-01-23 7:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-23 9:43 AM Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 11:26 PM Idiot......can't you comprehend a basic simple fact? This government counts all temps, zero hours, and part timers as fully employed......even unpaid family work. 1 hour per week now counts as "employment". It's all about 'massaging' the figures to make employment appear high when the truth is it's purely a distortion and nothing else. So how do you explain why employers are struggling to fill vacancies even in low skilled jobs? ;-) ...... You cant have it both ways.......without distorting the facts Idiot! >:-) ........... Many of those jobs were previously done by people from EU but you wanted them out. Seems like you're the one trying to have it both ways in believing 'employment is at it's highest' without fully understanding the consequence of massaging figures, only to now totally contradict yourself. The only distortion of fact is what i've shown you as to how government make these amazing claims and sell it to the gullible as truthful fact when it's obviously not. The government cant distort the number job adverts ;-) .............and there's loads here in Weymouth :D ........ You'd better tell them they're wasting their time as according to you "employment is at it's highest level" so there won't be anyone available. *-) Just goes to show there is work out there if you want it B-) ............ Unfortunately we still have a hardcore of intentionally idle who prefer to scrounge rather than work *-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-01-24 9:33 AM Bulletguy - 2019-01-24 2:00 AM pelmetman - 2019-01-23 10:34 PM Bulletguy - 2019-01-23 7:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-23 9:43 AM Bulletguy - 2019-01-22 11:26 PM Idiot......can't you comprehend a basic simple fact? This government counts all temps, zero hours, and part timers as fully employed......even unpaid family work. 1 hour per week now counts as "employment". It's all about 'massaging' the figures to make employment appear high when the truth is it's purely a distortion and nothing else. So how do you explain why employers are struggling to fill vacancies even in low skilled jobs? ;-) ...... You cant have it both ways.......without distorting the facts Idiot! >:-) ........... Many of those jobs were previously done by people from EU but you wanted them out. Seems like you're the one trying to have it both ways in believing 'employment is at it's highest' without fully understanding the consequence of massaging figures, only to now totally contradict yourself. The only distortion of fact is what i've shown you as to how government make these amazing claims and sell it to the gullible as truthful fact when it's obviously not. The government cant distort the number job adverts ;-) .............and there's loads here in Weymouth :D ........ You'd better tell them they're wasting their time as according to you "employment is at it's highest level" so there won't be anyone available. *-) Just goes to show there is work out there if you want it B-) ............ Lot's vacated by workers from EU countries who've now gone......so where are your Brexit Brits who were forever whining about "them foreigners stealing our jobs"? Unfortunately we still have a hardcore of intentionally idle who prefer to scrounge rather than work *-) .......... Yeah we have noticed.......you're well experienced in that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-01-24 3:32 PM Lot's vacated by workers from EU countries who've now gone......so where are your Brexit Brits who were forever whining about "them foreigners stealing our jobs"? Now gone? :-S .........Who's using the Polish shops then? ;-) ......... There's even a Polish section in our local Asda :D .......... Which indicates to me they're here to stay, not that I'm bothered if they're prepared to be a net contributor to our economy like I am in Spain B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-01-24 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-01-24 3:32 PM Lot's vacated by workers from EU countries who've now gone......so where are your Brexit Brits who were forever whining about "them foreigners stealing our jobs"? Now gone? :-S .........Who's using the Polish shops then? ;-) ......... There's even a Polish section in our local Asda :D .......... Which indicates to me they're here to stay, not that I'm bothered if they're prepared to be a net contributor to our economy like I am in Spain B-) ......... You need to start making your mind up between "highest records of employment ever" and "employers struggling to fill vacancies" as you're continually contradicting yourself. You also need to decide whether UK or Spain is to be your country of "habitual residence" as you cannot have it both ways. You voted to end FOM yet now behave in a very hypocritical manner. Quite despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-01-24 9:21 PM pelmetman - 2019-01-24 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-01-24 3:32 PM Lot's vacated by workers from EU countries who've now gone......so where are your Brexit Brits who were forever whining about "them foreigners stealing our jobs"? Now gone? :-S .........Who's using the Polish shops then? ;-) ......... There's even a Polish section in our local Asda :D .......... Which indicates to me they're here to stay, not that I'm bothered if they're prepared to be a net contributor to our economy like I am in Spain B-) ......... You need to start making your mind up between "highest records of employment ever" and "employers struggling to fill vacancies" as you're continually contradicting yourself. You also need to decide whether UK or Spain is to be your country of "habitual residence" as you cannot have it both ways. You voted to end FOM yet now behave in a very hypocritical manner. Quite despicable. No contradiction here..........When did I ever say tourists shouldn't be allowed to come to the UK? ;-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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