Guest pelmetman Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-02-16 9:47 AM You might be interested (or not) in this post I received from Jason J Hunter last night (its a closed group so no link). A closed group of Remoaners all scaring the sh*t out of each other 8-) .......... Sounds like one of those self harming groups that sensible folk are trying to get banned ;-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 antony1969 - 2019-02-16 10:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-02-16 9:47 AM antony1969 - 2019-02-16 6:57 AM Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 11:07 PM antony1969 - 2019-02-15 8:07 PM Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:56 PM antony1969 - 2019-02-15 5:38 PM Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this. https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002 Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will : A) be read or B) make any difference to Brexiteers. ;-) Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh? They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss. Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss" Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep? Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... Those deals by the way , we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... Bring on that US deal though Not doing as good? we are loosing £800m a week compared to where we should be thanks to brexit and the recent figures are not good at all. The existing trade deal roll overs we can negotiate before we leave. Foxy if you remember promised that all 40 of them would be ready to go by midnight on the 29th of March. He's completely fooked that one up with one windswept island in the north Atlantic so far. If you had kept up with Brexit and recent posts on here and elsewhere you would have seen the ever growing list of demands form the US for a trade deal. I thought you wanted to "take back control". Oh dear. You should go and do some research on what awaits. Und the folk on here are ruddy experts on the list of demands for a US trade deal ... Give up ... Like Foxy lots of folk have said lots of different things when it comes to what will and wont happen regarding Brexit and lots of the stuff said has changed over the whinging period since the vote ... So what ... Im sure deals will be signed fairly quickly ... I have faith and im a positive type , you have zip faith in anything and along with your boyfriend are the most negative wingers on the internetwork Your sure deals will be signed quickly? Why would they be when the latest desperate brainwave from your ERG chums is to just not bother with border checks and set zero tariffs. What they have overlooked is that under WTO rules if you set Zero tariffs for one you have to do it for all under favoured nation rules so why would any country want to do any kind of deal with us if we do that as they dont need one, fill yer boots as far as they are concerned although our WTO application has been rejected anyway. As for your pals over the pond we already have a pretty good arrangement with them via the EU. Trumps list of demands as we renegotiate that is basically deregulating everything we have worked to develop throughout our EU membership from Pharmaceuticals to food to agriculture all for their benefit, not ours. You might be interested (or not) in this post I received from Jason J Hunter last night (its a closed group so no link). "The UK already enjoys a raft of agreements over trade with the USA thanks to our EU membership, these agreements have been signed over the past few decades. They include detailed cooperation agreements to make trade easier with the USA for EU member states. they cover: Intellectual Property Rights Supply Chain Security Investment Raw Materials Innovation Action Partnership: Innovation Best Practices Bio-economy and Biobased products E-Health ENERGY STAR Labelling ICT services trade related principles SME cooperation Cloud Computing Nanotechnology A Work Plan for advancing transatlantic e-mobility cooperation Smart Grid Interoperability Centres Joint Research Centre on Electric Vehicles A framework for advancing transatlantic economic integration which includes: Fostering Cooperation and Reducing Regulatory Burdens Lighthouse Priority Projects A Transatlantic Economic Council A Work Program of Cooperation Transatlantic Legislation Agreement between EU-US on Drug Precursors Agreement between the EU and the United States of America on customs cooperation and mutual assistance in customs Agreement on Early Warning Mechanism EU-US Veterinary Equivalence Agreement EU/US Agreement on Mutual Regoginition of Certificates of Conformity for Marine Equipment US-EU Co-operation in the field of Metrology in support of trade Tax Treatment for Foreign Sales Corporations We lose all these agreements and many more (these are just a few titles of agreements that I have selected from over 28 pages of lists of cooperation and other agreements between the EU and the USA.... Who on Earth thinks that by removing all these cooperation agreements that have been negotiated over decades and enable the UK to sell 20% of all our exports to the USA that somehow we will be able to sell MORE to the USA than we did when we had all these?" Brexit is a busted flush. Nobody who still has their brain engaged really believes otherwise. Who says we'll be removing any of it ??? Cant we keep any of it or agreements similar ??? They may well be EU/US agreements but if both the UK and US agree they can have agreements very similar or better and more cant they ??? ... Agreements to suit two countries not 28 or 29 ... As for Brexit being a "busted flush" you need to wake up to whats happening in Europe and you seriously need to get a life fella ... If you are part of a group that sends you 28 pages of crap like that and you think you can make a difference you are mistaken ... Get a grip All of it will be removed if we leave without a deal. This is the same for every single world trade deal we have. Thats what Foxy is supposed to be doing, renegotiating all those external deals but he's finding its not "the easiest deal in history". Now they are talking about zero tariffs so what incentive is there for anyone to do a deal. Trump will be rubbing his little hands together because it will all have to start again for the UK with the US and have a guess whos favour that will go in when the rest of the world isnt interested in dealing with us as we just opened the floodgates? Im not saying Brexit wont go ahead Antony just that its busted, broke and not fit for purpose. Im part of several groups now which even include a handful of MP's. Can we make a difference? I think we have already. If nothing else they highlight stuff like the above and hold MP's to account. If there is ever a second vote people will have to listen to stuff like this but sadly like many on here they are not listening now. 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Brian Kirby Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 antony1969 - 2019-02-15 8:07 PM..................…. 1 Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... 2 Those deals by the way, we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... 3 Bring on that US deal though 1 If that were true, why did so many vote leave? Was it because they were doing so well, or because they weren't? It just seems an odd thing to forego the means of success in favour of no means at all. 2 No we can't. But we can sign them, so that they are ready to implement the day after Brexit day. How many have been signed? 3 You have far more faith than I do in the US under trump doing a trade deal that favours us and not the US. BTW, what, exactly, and we going to sell to the US, that we don't already sell? Bowler hats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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