pike Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Hi - I am starting to look at changing our motorhome and have been looking at different construction types. Some manufacturers make it easy to find out about their chosen materials (Roller Team are apparently wood free, Benimar almost wood free, although still have a plywood floor and Dethleffs still use plywood). Some manufacturers websites have no information. Does anyone know of a resource that shows different construction types by brand? Also, does anyone know of the advantages/disadvantages of not using wood (or why wood might be better)? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jands Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 My Pilote is wood free. The advantage of wood free is that in the case of a leak wood will absorbe water, expand and rot. Using versions of manmade products result in better insulation and no structural damage from water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I think woodfree refers to: the roof and walls. But not the Inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pike Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 Yes - I was meaning roof, walls and flooring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 pike - 2019-11-04 2:22 PM Does anyone know of a resource that shows different construction types by brand? Thanks It's a subject that interests me and I've spent a good deal of time researching and I'm almost certain that no such resource exists. It's further complicated by manufacturers not using the same construction across their entire model ranges too e.g. Burstner whose Ixeos are wood-free (roof, walls, lower floor) while the cheaper Lyseos aren't. Also consider the insulation material used, as XPS ('Styrofoam') cannot absorb or transmit moisture while EPS (expanded polystyrene) can. The list of entirely wood-free XPS-insulated coachbuilts is really quite small. Add to that my preference for a GRP skin rather than aluminium and it begins to explain just why I'm having such trouble in finding my next van.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Obviously wood free is better for the reasons already mentioned. But construction must also be considered. In foreign forums brands such as Burstner or Laika (just examples) seldom suffer infiltration. Other brands quite often. About technology: Outer skin: Basically we have four types: Aluminium (the most used) Fiberglass sheets (many brands) Monocoque fiberglass (Wingamm, Aiesistem, Esterel) Alufiber (to my knowledge used only by the Italian Arca) Insulating material: Polystyrene of various types Styrofoam RTM (also has structural features) Some material used in slabs, other times injected under pressure) Structure: Aluminium-RTM-Aluminium (e.g. Concorde, Carthago) Aluminium-Polystyrene(or Styrofoam)-Plywood (the most brands) Fiberglass-Injected foam-Fiberglass (Wingamm for instance) A separate discussion needs patent Hymer PUAL system (https://hymer.com/de/en/models/technology-innovation/pual) Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curdle Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Wow Massimo, that is an extremely detailed and informative reply. You should be reviewing motorhomes since technical details are scant in most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Within Alu-RTM-Alu brands I obviosly forgot Niesmann&Bishoffs. About me: I started in late eighties with a 6mt overcab bed Freccia (entry level of Arca family). Then switched to a low profile 6.6mt Laika. My last was a 6.2mt low profile fiberglass monocoque (Aiesistem). All used in very hot (Greece and Andalusia) as well very cold weather (on the Alps, down to -25°C). Without doubts and comparisons, best in class is monocoque technology. Now I am waiting for a Malibu campervan. We will see... Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pike Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 Thanks - interesting information. Does anyone have any specific like or dislike of wooden framed motorhomes versus 'wood free' alternatives? I have read that wood reduces noise, however are 'wood free' construction methods likely to last as long as wood (assuming no water ingress)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 pike - 2019-11-04 2:48 PM Yes - I was meaning roof, walls and flooring Usually ;-) ......... This winter I will be repairing a damp patch in our floor from a leaking pump that fooled me for months by not doing the usual pump motion for no reason >:-( ......... But hey Horace will be 30 years old next year B-) ........ So at his age and mine a certain incontinence is only to be expected :$ ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 pike - 2019-11-04 2:48 PM Yes - I was meaning roof, walls and flooring You are forgetting the bit that makes it move ;-) ........ Ford, Merc or Sevel Variants all of whom seem to suffer from a complication of complicated problems 8-) ....... That's just my view as a practicing Luddite :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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