Bulletguy Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 4:27 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-08 10:02 AM pepe63 - 2020-07-08 9:54 AM We ordered/bought ours online from a UK stock/supplier (delivered in a couple of days) but they had been manufatcured in China.....so? The same probably goes for a hefty percentage of items in people's homes nowadays. Strange that really, as we were always being told by Brexiteers that the EU was stopping us from trading with the rest of the world? (so is China in the EU now then...?) but either way, I'm not the clown shouting "Commie Chums" at every turn *-) Get it right Pepe......The EU forced us to pay tariffs on stuff we bought from non EU countries *-) ......... https://iea.org.uk/the-eus-thousands-of-senseless-tariffs-punish-the-poor/ …………........... This is insane! You want to offshore more UK jobs to help the poor. How will that work? It came from Brexit Central who first published the article. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 3:53 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-06 6:35 PM Bulletguy - 2020-07-06 2:12 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-06 9:15 AM Bulletguy - 2020-07-05 3:29 PM Two cases are already subject of a court case and typically your flippant remark shows you don't understand the seriousness of this matter at all. Put your money where your motormouth always is and hand your property deeds over to Ms Brost, then we will see whose laughing. Evidence ? ;-) .......... It was already there had you made an effort to read. Maugham is a QC practising in tax law and founder of the Good Law Project. https://www.cityam.com/government-faces-lawsuit-over-108m-ppe-contract-with-pest-control-firm/ So Mr Motormouth, when will you be handing over your property deeds to that shell company? After all you've got absolutely nothing to lose have you? https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/108million/ Seeing as they haven't found enough mugs to pick up the tab yet ;-) ......... Your assertion that the government "is" being sued is just more Bulletsh*t *-) ........ Come off it Dave, they're just £13,000 short of the £70,000 they need. Since you're such an ardent guardian of public money, I'm surprised you haven't chipped in. A government order for over £100 million of specialist equipment to a company with £19,000 declared assets which doesn't manufacture, and has no track record in supplying, such equipment - and you're happy? You don't even detect a sniff of corruption? I'm disappointed. Talk about one law for the few, and different laws for the rest. I'd have thought you, of all people, would be incandescent at such profligate incompetence. If You Losers wanna Lose your money by donating to another Lost cause bitchfest ;-) ........ I ain't gonna complain >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 4:27 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-08 10:02 AM pepe63 - 2020-07-08 9:54 AM We ordered/bought ours online from a UK stock/supplier (delivered in a couple of days) but they had been manufatcured in China.....so? The same probably goes for a hefty percentage of items in people's homes nowadays. Strange that really, as we were always being told by Brexiteers that the EU was stopping us from trading with the rest of the world? (so is China in the EU now then...?) but either way, I'm not the clown shouting "Commie Chums" at every turn *-) Get it right Pepe......The EU forced us to pay tariffs on stuff we bought from non EU countries *-) ......... https://iea.org.uk/the-eus-thousands-of-senseless-tariffs-punish-the-poor/ …………........... This is insane! You want to offshore more UK jobs to help the poor. How will that work? Nope, I want the UK to concentrate on developing high skilled jobs like plumbers electricians etc ;-) ......... Increasing low skilled jobs just increases migration to feed sweatshops like those in Leceister *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-09 8:20 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 3:53 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-06 6:35 PM Bulletguy - 2020-07-06 2:12 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-06 9:15 AM Bulletguy - 2020-07-05 3:29 PM Two cases are already subject of a court case and typically your flippant remark shows you don't understand the seriousness of this matter at all. Put your money where your motormouth always is and hand your property deeds over to Ms Brost, then we will see whose laughing. Evidence ? ;-) .......... It was already there had you made an effort to read. Maugham is a QC practising in tax law and founder of the Good Law Project. https://www.cityam.com/government-faces-lawsuit-over-108m-ppe-contract-with-pest-control-firm/ So Mr Motormouth, when will you be handing over your property deeds to that shell company? After all you've got absolutely nothing to lose have you? https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/108million/ Seeing as they haven't found enough mugs to pick up the tab yet ;-) ......... Your assertion that the government "is" being sued is just more Bulletsh*t *-) ........ Come off it Dave, they're just £13,000 short of the £70,000 they need. Since you're such an ardent guardian of public money, I'm surprised you haven't chipped in. A government order for over £100 million of specialist equipment to a company with £19,000 declared assets which doesn't manufacture, and has no track record in supplying, such equipment - and you're happy? You don't even detect a sniff of corruption? I'm disappointed. Talk about one law for the few, and different laws for the rest. I'd have thought you, of all people, would be incandescent at such profligate incompetence. If You Losers wanna Lose your money by donating to another Lost cause bitchfest ;-) ........ I ain't gonna complain >:-) ........... OK, if you aren't going to complain about over £100 million of public money going to a firm with no track record in the field, and with only £19,000 declared assets, more fool you. I'll bear that in mind! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-09 8:27 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 4:27 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-08 10:02 AM pepe63 - 2020-07-08 9:54 AM We ordered/bought ours online from a UK stock/supplier (delivered in a couple of days) but they had been manufatcured in China.....so? The same probably goes for a hefty percentage of items in people's homes nowadays. Strange that really, as we were always being told by Brexiteers that the EU was stopping us from trading with the rest of the world? (so is China in the EU now then...?) but either way, I'm not the clown shouting "Commie Chums" at every turn *-) Get it right Pepe......The EU forced us to pay tariffs on stuff we bought from non EU countries *-) ......... https://iea.org.uk/the-eus-thousands-of-senseless-tariffs-punish-the-poor/ …………........... This is insane! You want to offshore more UK jobs to help the poor. How will that work? Nope, I want the UK to concentrate on developing high skilled jobs like plumbers electricians etc ;-) ......... Increasing low skilled jobs just increases migration to feed sweatshops like those in Leceister *-) ........ So how does importing more goods from abroad because they are cheaper, which is what your link promotes, further those entirely laudable objectives? Gun, foot, BANG!! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-09 12:34 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-09 8:27 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 4:27 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-08 10:02 AM pepe63 - 2020-07-08 9:54 AM We ordered/bought ours online from a UK stock/supplier (delivered in a couple of days) but they had been manufatcured in China.....so? The same probably goes for a hefty percentage of items in people's homes nowadays. Strange that really, as we were always being told by Brexiteers that the EU was stopping us from trading with the rest of the world? (so is China in the EU now then...?) but either way, I'm not the clown shouting "Commie Chums" at every turn *-) Get it right Pepe......The EU forced us to pay tariffs on stuff we bought from non EU countries *-) ......... https://iea.org.uk/the-eus-thousands-of-senseless-tariffs-punish-the-poor/ …………........... This is insane! You want to offshore more UK jobs to help the poor. How will that work? Nope, I want the UK to concentrate on developing high skilled jobs like plumbers electricians etc ;-) ......... Increasing low skilled jobs just increases migration to feed sweatshops like those in Leceister *-) ........ So how does importing more goods from abroad because they are cheaper, which is what your link promotes, further those entirely laudable objectives? Gun, foot, BANG!! :-D Simple economics ;-) ......... If folk can buy them cheaper from abroad.......then there is no demand for sweatshops in the UK B-) ................. Nor the illegal/legal migrants that work in them :-| ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-09 1:02 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-07-09 12:34 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-09 8:27 AM Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 4:27 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-08 10:02 AM pepe63 - 2020-07-08 9:54 AM We ordered/bought ours online from a UK stock/supplier (delivered in a couple of days) but they had been manufatcured in China.....so? The same probably goes for a hefty percentage of items in people's homes nowadays. Strange that really, as we were always being told by Brexiteers that the EU was stopping us from trading with the rest of the world? (so is China in the EU now then...?) but either way, I'm not the clown shouting "Commie Chums" at every turn *-) Get it right Pepe......The EU forced us to pay tariffs on stuff we bought from non EU countries *-) ......... https://iea.org.uk/the-eus-thousands-of-senseless-tariffs-punish-the-poor/ …………........... This is insane! You want to offshore more UK jobs to help the poor. How will that work? Nope, I want the UK to concentrate on developing high skilled jobs like plumbers electricians etc ;-) ......... Increasing low skilled jobs just increases migration to feed sweatshops like those in Leceister *-) ........ So how does importing more goods from abroad because they are cheaper, which is what your link promotes, further those entirely laudable objectives? Gun, foot, BANG!! :-D Simple economics ;-) ......... If folk can buy them cheaper from abroad.......then there is no demand for sweatshops in the UK B-) ................. Nor the illegal/legal migrants that work in them :-| ........... So, your test for deciding whether we should import cheap widgets from abroad, is whether illegal immigrants are involved in making similar widgets in UK. If they are, we should simply import the widgets from abroad. Problems: 1 How do we know where the illegals are employed? They won't be telling us, will they? 2 Assuming we can find out where they are employed, we simply order cheaper imports from abroad. But, who is "we"? "We" usually buy widgets from the retail sector, not the manufacturer. So, what you then need is that all retailers are instructed (but by whom?) to forthwith buy those widgets from abroad? So, UK factory orders now dry up, and they turn to making different widgets (still employing the illegals, so own goal 1!), or they go bust, (including the good guys who weren't employing illegals (own goal 2!)! But then, those illegals who were working in the factories which have gone bust now disappear into the black labour market from which they came, and end up making different widgets in a different factory (own goal 3!). Meanwhile, the employees from the now bankrupt good factories end up on the dole (own goal 4). Net result? Disused factories, reduction in GDP, increase in unemployment, and we've still got the illegals! So yes, simple economics. Very, very, very, simple economics. :-D Two suggestions: First, don't go into government Dave. Please!! :-D Second, employ and use inspectors to visit factories unannounced (with powers to summon police of denied entry) and inspect the credentials of everyone present, including their working conditions, and arrest any not legally present for immediate transfer to a holding facility pending deportation, arrest of the factory owner pending prosecution and fine for employing illegals or not maintaining a safe place of work with, for a second offence, say, a five year minimum ban on subsequent registration of companies or holding directorships. Now, the odd thing about this is that the Health and Safety Act 1974 gives HSE Inspectors most of the above powers, with penalties, saving that they are not involved with the employment of illegal immigrants. However, the Immigration Service holds those additional powers. Since we have had illegal immigrants since legal immigration was invented, doesn't it strike you as odd that these powers seem not to have been more widely used? Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, and May were all able to instruct HSE and/or IS inspectors to visit places suspected of employing illegals to check the credentials of employees, and the legality of their places of work, but seem only to have done so in certain instances. Strange, that, isn't it? I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-09 4:23 PM First, don't go into government Dave. Please!! :-D I dont need to ;-) ........ I have a vote for that kinda thang :D ......... Oh how you Losers must hate democracy (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-09 9:39 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-07-09 4:23 PM First, don't go into government Dave. Please!! :-D I dont need to ;-) ........ I have a vote for that kinda thang :D ......... Oh how you Losers must hate democracy (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Unless, of course, it is democracy in the EU! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 How much longer can this corruption be allowed to continue? :-| https://tinyurl.com/y92anx9b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-10 12:14 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-09 9:39 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-07-09 4:23 PM First, don't go into government Dave. Please!! :-D I dont need to ;-) ........ I have a vote for that kinda thang :D ......... Oh how you Losers must hate democracy (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Unless, of course, it is democracy in the EU! :-D Democracy in the EU??????? 8-) ......... Did I get to vote for any of the Germans who run the EU? *-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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