Guest pelmetman Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-06-17 8:55 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-17 6:04 AM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 9:27 PM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself LOL! You support Boris Johnson and you tell me I need to take a look at myself? Chuckle. (lol) Its unforgivable that he put a trade deal (Brexit again eh?) and appeasing his fellow populist right wing leader in India before peoples lives and now as a result covid is back to bite us on the arse once again and also hammer businesses and livelihoods. Holding the government and Johnson to account you call hateful? Bizarre. Yes, because you whinging on here day in day out with hate thrown at the Tories and Boris is really "Holding the government" to account isnt??? ... Quite sickening to see you playing the numbers chart when it suits again Well yes it is holding them go account isnt it? That is the whole point of showing the massive cock up by posting up the link that shows we are now the worst hit in Europe, again! That is exactly what holding them to account is. Oooooh look! Johnson has cocked up again and here is the evidence to show what he has done. Why is that sickening? The only thing that is sickening is that this keeps happening time and time again and when you do hold them to account his supporters like you accuse you of being sickening, thats why its Bizarre. You keep on holding them nasty Tories to account on here Barry if it makes ya feel all warm and cosy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-06-17 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Its nothing to do with the number of tests though is it? Its the rate of infections per 100000 people. More tests will probably mean more accuracy within a few percent either way thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-06-17 9:01 PM pelmetman - 2021-06-17 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Its nothing to do with the number of tests though is it? Its the rate of infections per 100000 people. More tests will probably mean more accuracy within a few percent either way thats all. 109,254,078 MORE tests means our test & trace system is far more accurate than any in the EU ;-) ......... Which also means we can target the areas where there are spikes......unlike many EU countries who dont have a effective test & trace system *-) .......... So wont know where the new Indian varient is spreading until its too late *-) ......... I bet the EU wish they had a Dido......instead of a dumb Dodo bird in charge >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-06-18 9:06 AM Barryd999 - 2021-06-17 9:01 PM pelmetman - 2021-06-17 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Its nothing to do with the number of tests though is it? Its the rate of infections per 100000 people. More tests will probably mean more accuracy within a few percent either way thats all. 109,254,078 MORE tests means our test & trace system is far more accurate than any in the EU ;-) ......... Which also means we can target the areas where there are spikes......unlike many EU countries who dont have a effective test & trace system *-) .......... So wont know where the new Indian varient is spreading until its too late *-) ......... I bet the EU wish they had a Dido......instead of a dumb Dodo bird in charge >:-) ......... Not according to the government's own reports produced by the Public Accounts Committee https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/03/19/covid-19-test-and-trace-scandal-its-not-too-late-to-change-the-story/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-06-18 9:06 AM Barryd999 - 2021-06-17 9:01 PM pelmetman - 2021-06-17 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Its nothing to do with the number of tests though is it? Its the rate of infections per 100000 people. More tests will probably mean more accuracy within a few percent either way thats all. 109,254,078 MORE tests means our test & trace system is far more accurate than any in the EU ;-) ......... Which also means we can target the areas where there are spikes......unlike many EU countries who dont have a effective test & trace system *-) .......... So wont know where the new Indian varient is spreading until its too late *-) ......... I bet the EU wish they had a Dido......instead of a dumb Dodo bird in charge >:-) ......... That wasnt your claim though. You tried to claim because we have tested more then we were bound to show more cases so the report that shows us as now once again having the highest infection rate is wrong. Statistically any sample random testing (sampling) over 400 odd in an infinite population will give an an accurate result plus or minus 5%. Every nation in Europe is testing hundreds of thousands all the time so the figures will be about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-18 9:33 AM pelmetman - 2021-06-18 9:06 AM Barryd999 - 2021-06-17 9:01 PM pelmetman - 2021-06-17 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Its nothing to do with the number of tests though is it? Its the rate of infections per 100000 people. More tests will probably mean more accuracy within a few percent either way thats all. 109,254,078 MORE tests means our test & trace system is far more accurate than any in the EU ;-) ......... Which also means we can target the areas where there are spikes......unlike many EU countries who dont have a effective test & trace system *-) .......... So wont know where the new Indian varient is spreading until its too late *-) ......... I bet the EU wish they had a Dido......instead of a dumb Dodo bird in charge >:-) ......... Not according to the government's own reports produced by the Public Accounts Committee https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/03/19/covid-19-test-and-trace-scandal-its-not-too-late-to-change-the-story/ I prefer the report summary without the Lefty BMJ bias ;-) ............. Summary A well-functioning test and trace programme is key to our success in the fight against the COVID-19 virus. Since May 2020, the NHS Test and Trace Service (NHST&T) has led the national programme for testing and tracing in England, aiming to help break chains of transmission and enable people to return to a normal way of life. The scale of NHST&T’s activities is striking, particularly given its short life. Between May 2020 and January 2021, daily UK testing capacity for COVID-19 increased from around 100,000 to over 800,000 tests. NHST&T had also contacted over 2.5 million people testing positive for COVID-19 in England and advised more than 4.5 million of their associated contacts to self-isolate. NHST&T, however, still has work to do to ensure it meets its critical targets and objectives in a timely and cost-efficient manner. We appreciate that NHST&T had to be set up and staffed at incredible speed, but in particular it now needs to wean itself off its persistent reliance on consultants and temporary staff. Up to November 2020, NHST&T had spent £5.7 billion, although it has been allocated far more (£37 billion over two years). The Department of Health & Social Care justified the scale of investment, in part, on the basis that an effective test and trace system would help avoid a second national lockdown; but since its creation we have had two more lockdowns. There is still no clear evidence to judge NHST&T’s overall effectiveness. It is unclear whether its specific contribution to reducing infection levels, as opposed to the other measures introduced to tackle the pandemic has justified its costs. A major focus for NHST&T in early 2021 was the mass roll-out of rapid testing in different community settings, but there have been particular setbacks for the roll-out to schools. Both the Department and NHST&T must learn lessons from this about their role in engaging stakeholders and setting out how rapid tests can be used. The Department must also remain one step ahead in setting the future strategy for the national test and trace service, including how to secure long-term benefits from the vast expenditure it will have incurred. This is our first examination of NHST&T and its performance. We intend to follow up on progress on the test and trace programme later in the year. https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/publications/reports-responses/?SearchTerm=test+and+trace&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SessionId= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-06-18 11:12 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-18 9:33 AM pelmetman - 2021-06-18 9:06 AM Barryd999 - 2021-06-17 9:01 PM pelmetman - 2021-06-17 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Its nothing to do with the number of tests though is it? Its the rate of infections per 100000 people. More tests will probably mean more accuracy within a few percent either way thats all. 109,254,078 MORE tests means our test & trace system is far more accurate than any in the EU ;-) ......... Which also means we can target the areas where there are spikes......unlike many EU countries who dont have a effective test & trace system *-) .......... So wont know where the new Indian varient is spreading until its too late *-) ......... I bet the EU wish they had a Dido......instead of a dumb Dodo bird in charge >:-) ......... Not according to the government's own reports produced by the Public Accounts Committee https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/03/19/covid-19-test-and-trace-scandal-its-not-too-late-to-change-the-story/ I prefer the report summary without the Lefty BMJ bias ;-) ............. Summary A well-functioning test and trace programme is key to our success in the fight against the COVID-19 virus. Since May 2020, the NHS Test and Trace Service (NHST&T) has led the national programme for testing and tracing in England, aiming to help break chains of transmission and enable people to return to a normal way of life. The scale of NHST&T’s activities is striking, particularly given its short life. Between May 2020 and January 2021, daily UK testing capacity for COVID-19 increased from around 100,000 to over 800,000 tests. NHST&T had also contacted over 2.5 million people testing positive for COVID-19 in England and advised more than 4.5 million of their associated contacts to self-isolate. NHST&T, however, still has work to do to ensure it meets its critical targets and objectives in a timely and cost-efficient manner. We appreciate that NHST&T had to be set up and staffed at incredible speed, but in particular it now needs to wean itself off its persistent reliance on consultants and temporary staff. Up to November 2020, NHST&T had spent £5.7 billion, although it has been allocated far more (£37 billion over two years). The Department of Health & Social Care justified the scale of investment, in part, on the basis that an effective test and trace system would help avoid a second national lockdown; but since its creation we have had two more lockdowns. There is still no clear evidence to judge NHST&T’s overall effectiveness. It is unclear whether its specific contribution to reducing infection levels, as opposed to the other measures introduced to tackle the pandemic has justified its costs. A major focus for NHST&T in early 2021 was the mass roll-out of rapid testing in different community settings, but there have been particular setbacks for the roll-out to schools. Both the Department and NHST&T must learn lessons from this about their role in engaging stakeholders and setting out how rapid tests can be used. The Department must also remain one step ahead in setting the future strategy for the national test and trace service, including how to secure long-term benefits from the vast expenditure it will have incurred. This is our first examination of NHST&T and its performance. We intend to follow up on progress on the test and trace programme later in the year. https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/publications/reports-responses/?SearchTerm=test+and+trace&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SessionId= You do realise that doesn't say we have a "well functioning test and trace programme " ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-18 3:44 PM pelmetman - 2021-06-18 11:12 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-18 9:33 AM pelmetman - 2021-06-18 9:06 AM Barryd999 - 2021-06-17 9:01 PM pelmetman - 2021-06-17 6:40 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-06-17 11:01 AM Birdbrain - 2021-06-16 7:28 PM Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 3:37 PM How can anyone seriously support Johnson now? After the excellent vaccine roll out by the NHS and the amazing take up thanks to Johnson allowing the Indian variant in because of Brexit we are now back to having the highest infection rate in Europe. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/uk-highest-rate-covid-cases-155248553.html its simply not good enough. He has to go now surely. Mr Hateful back on the numbers game ... You havent used them as it didn't suit your purpose for weeks and weeks and then all of a sudden ... You need to take a look at yaself So what, actually, is wrong or inaccurate in the above or the link? Both seem no more than statements of the obvious, merely re-stating what is already in the public domain. Seems to me the Hate squad are crowing to early again *-) .......... Seeing as we have carried out 109,254,078 more tests than anyone in Europe, it pretty obvious that our testing system would show a higher number of positive cases ;-) ........ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I suggest the squad comes back after the 3rd wave has done its worst in Europe before they start trying to count the scores on the doors *-) ............ and.......Just for Malc :D........ Its nothing to do with the number of tests though is it? Its the rate of infections per 100000 people. More tests will probably mean more accuracy within a few percent either way thats all. 109,254,078 MORE tests means our test & trace system is far more accurate than any in the EU ;-) ......... Which also means we can target the areas where there are spikes......unlike many EU countries who dont have a effective test & trace system *-) .......... So wont know where the new Indian varient is spreading until its too late *-) ......... I bet the EU wish they had a Dido......instead of a dumb Dodo bird in charge >:-) ......... Not according to the government's own reports produced by the Public Accounts Committee https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/03/19/covid-19-test-and-trace-scandal-its-not-too-late-to-change-the-story/ I prefer the report summary without the Lefty BMJ bias ;-) ............. Summary A well-functioning test and trace programme is key to our success in the fight against the COVID-19 virus. Since May 2020, the NHS Test and Trace Service (NHST&T) has led the national programme for testing and tracing in England, aiming to help break chains of transmission and enable people to return to a normal way of life. The scale of NHST&T’s activities is striking, particularly given its short life. Between May 2020 and January 2021, daily UK testing capacity for COVID-19 increased from around 100,000 to over 800,000 tests. NHST&T had also contacted over 2.5 million people testing positive for COVID-19 in England and advised more than 4.5 million of their associated contacts to self-isolate. NHST&T, however, still has work to do to ensure it meets its critical targets and objectives in a timely and cost-efficient manner. We appreciate that NHST&T had to be set up and staffed at incredible speed, but in particular it now needs to wean itself off its persistent reliance on consultants and temporary staff. Up to November 2020, NHST&T had spent £5.7 billion, although it has been allocated far more (£37 billion over two years). The Department of Health & Social Care justified the scale of investment, in part, on the basis that an effective test and trace system would help avoid a second national lockdown; but since its creation we have had two more lockdowns. There is still no clear evidence to judge NHST&T’s overall effectiveness. It is unclear whether its specific contribution to reducing infection levels, as opposed to the other measures introduced to tackle the pandemic has justified its costs. A major focus for NHST&T in early 2021 was the mass roll-out of rapid testing in different community settings, but there have been particular setbacks for the roll-out to schools. Both the Department and NHST&T must learn lessons from this about their role in engaging stakeholders and setting out how rapid tests can be used. The Department must also remain one step ahead in setting the future strategy for the national test and trace service, including how to secure long-term benefits from the vast expenditure it will have incurred. This is our first examination of NHST&T and its performance. We intend to follow up on progress on the test and trace programme later in the year. https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/publications/reports-responses/?SearchTerm=test+and+trace&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SessionId= You do realise that doesn't say we have a "well functioning test and trace programme " ? It proves you LOSERS LIED when you said Boris had spent 37 billion on test & trace >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Mr "fecking hopeless " Hancock is at it again, Dexamethasone was introduced into the NHS in 1958. Any PM that thought this of a senior minister would surely sack him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-19 9:34 AM Mr "fecking hopeless " Hancock is at it again, Dexamethasone was introduced into the NHS in 1958. Any PM that thought this of a senior minister would surely sack him? 0 out of 10 for comprehension *-) ........... Its pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that he's referring to it being used as a treatment for COVID ;-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Boris Johnson denied the NHS would be overwhelmed and said he was not prepared to lock down the country to save people in their 80s, texting his adviser “get Covid and live longer,” according to new WhatsApp messages released by Dominic Cummings. In his first TV interview, the prime minister’s former chief adviser said Johnson held out on reimposing Covid restrictions because “the people who are dying are essentially all over 80.” Cummings also told the BBC that Johnson had been determined to go to see the Queen in person, despite people in Number 10 already ill with Covid in March 2020. Downing Street denies the account. In WhatsApp messages, shared with the BBC, that were sent to aides in mid October, Johnson appears to say: “I must say I have been slightly rocked by some of the data on Covid fatalities. The median age is 82 – 81 for men 85 for women. That is above life expectancy. So get Covid and live longer. Hardly anyone under 60 goes into hospital (4 per cent) and of those virtually all survive. “And I no longer buy all this NHS overwhelmed stuff. Folks I think we may need to recalibrate.” Johnson also appears to text aides “There are max 3 m in this country aged over 80” and says “it shows we don’t go for nationwide lockdown.” The new messages will cast further doubt over the actions of the prime minister in the run-up to the November lockdown, a time during which Cummings and other senior scientists have said the prime minister was fiercely opposed to lockdowns. Cummings told the BBC that Johnson, who came close to death after he was hospitalised with Covid in April 2020, told meetings in Number 10 that he should never have agreed to the first lockdown. He said Johnson referred to the Telegraph as “my real boss” and was extremely concerned about the reaction of the right-wing press and the Conservative party. “He then basically reverted and said, actually the whole thing was a disaster, we should never have done it, I was right in February, we should basically just ignore it and just let the thing wash through the country and not destroy the economy and move on,” he said. Cummings said Johnson had repeatedly ignored the advice of his chief scientific and medical advisers. “When you get to the week of around about 15 to 19 September, by that point the data was clear about what was happening and Patrick Vallance and Chris Whitty came to Downing Street and said erm, it’s clear where this is going, we think that you should consider hitting it hard and early … the prime minister said no, no, no, no, no, I’m not doing it.” In the BBC interview, Cummings claims that he had to stop Boris Johnson going to see the Queen in person at the beginning of the Covid pandemic, when staff in Number 10 were already falling ill and the prime minister had already instructed the public to avoid all unnecessary contact, especially with elderly people. “I said, what are you doing, and he said, I’m going to see the Queen and I said, what on earth are you talking about, of course you can’t go and see the Queen. He said, ah, that’s what I do every Wednesday, sod this, I’m gonna go and see her,” Cummings said. Downing Street denied that this incident took place. Buckingham Palace declined to comment. Cummings said he eventually convinced Johnson not to take the risk. “I said to him, there’s people in this office who are isolating, you might have coronavirus, I might have coronavirus, you can’t go and see the Queen. What if you go and see her and give the Queen coronavirus? “You obviously can’t go … I just said if you, if you give her coronavirus and she dies what, what are you gonna, you can’t do that, you can’t risk that, that’s completely insane. And he said, he basically just hadn’t thought it through, he said, yeah, ‘holy s**t, I can’t go.’” A Number 10 spokesperson told the BBC: “Since the start of the pandemic, the prime minister has taken the necessary action to protect lives and livelihoods, guided by the best scientific advice. “The government he leads has delivered the fastest vaccination rollout in Europe, saved millions of jobs through the furlough scheme and prevented the NHS from being overwhelmed through three national lockdowns. The government is entirely focused on emerging cautiously from the pandemic and building back better.” Cummings has launched multiple attacks on his former boss after leaving Downing Street in December, including at a seven-hour committee meeting with MPs and through a new subscription blog. The former chief adviser was subject to vociferous public criticism after the Guardian revealed he had travelled to Durham with his family, and later to Barnard Castle, during the national lockdown. Cummings repeated his explanation that he had left London because of threats against his family – which he told MPs in May but declined to say at a press conference he gave about the incident. “Everything that I said in the Rose Garden was true … but I didn’t go into all of the security concerns in the background,” he said “The way we handled the whole thing was, was wrong on the Monday. What I should have done is either just resigned and said nothing about anything, or I should have spoken to my family and said, listen we’re just gonna have to come clean about the whole thing.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 The Scum reports "Fifty kids a week in hospital with Covid"... My local trust had 54 in one day! We've had 279 children hospitalised with Covid in the last 7 days, up 67% on the previous week. UPDATE week to 19-July Childhood COVID, England Child cases up +25%, setting daily record Child hospitalisations rising, up +71% in a week 6% of CV19 admissions are children 1 in every 200 child cases is hospitalised Next slide please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-20 12:07 AM Boris Johnson denied the NHS would be overwhelmed and said he was not prepared to lock down the country to save people in their 80s, texting his adviser “get Covid and live longer,” according to new WhatsApp messages released by Dominic Cummings. In his first TV interview, the prime minister’s former chief adviser said Johnson held out on reimposing Covid restrictions because “the people who are dying are essentially all over 80.” Cummings also told the BBC that Johnson had been determined to go to see the Queen in person, despite people in Number 10 already ill with Covid in March 2020. Downing Street denies the account. In WhatsApp messages, shared with the BBC, that were sent to aides in mid October, Johnson appears to say: “I must say I have been slightly rocked by some of the data on Covid fatalities. The median age is 82 – 81 for men 85 for women. That is above life expectancy. So get Covid and live longer. Hardly anyone under 60 goes into hospital (4 per cent) and of those virtually all survive. “And I no longer buy all this NHS overwhelmed stuff. Folks I think we may need to recalibrate.” Johnson also appears to text aides “There are max 3 m in this country aged over 80” and says “it shows we don’t go for nationwide lockdown.” The new messages will cast further doubt over the actions of the prime minister in the run-up to the November lockdown, a time during which Cummings and other senior scientists have said the prime minister was fiercely opposed to lockdowns. Cummings told the BBC that Johnson, who came close to death after he was hospitalised with Covid in April 2020, told meetings in Number 10 that he should never have agreed to the first lockdown. He said Johnson referred to the Telegraph as “my real boss” and was extremely concerned about the reaction of the right-wing press and the Conservative party. “He then basically reverted and said, actually the whole thing was a disaster, we should never have done it, I was right in February, we should basically just ignore it and just let the thing wash through the country and not destroy the economy and move on,” he said. Cummings said Johnson had repeatedly ignored the advice of his chief scientific and medical advisers. “When you get to the week of around about 15 to 19 September, by that point the data was clear about what was happening and Patrick Vallance and Chris Whitty came to Downing Street and said erm, it’s clear where this is going, we think that you should consider hitting it hard and early … the prime minister said no, no, no, no, no, I’m not doing it.” In the BBC interview, Cummings claims that he had to stop Boris Johnson going to see the Queen in person at the beginning of the Covid pandemic, when staff in Number 10 were already falling ill and the prime minister had already instructed the public to avoid all unnecessary contact, especially with elderly people. “I said, what are you doing, and he said, I’m going to see the Queen and I said, what on earth are you talking about, of course you can’t go and see the Queen. He said, ah, that’s what I do every Wednesday, sod this, I’m gonna go and see her,” Cummings said. Downing Street denied that this incident took place. Buckingham Palace declined to comment. Cummings said he eventually convinced Johnson not to take the risk. “I said to him, there’s people in this office who are isolating, you might have coronavirus, I might have coronavirus, you can’t go and see the Queen. What if you go and see her and give the Queen coronavirus? “You obviously can’t go … I just said if you, if you give her coronavirus and she dies what, what are you gonna, you can’t do that, you can’t risk that, that’s completely insane. And he said, he basically just hadn’t thought it through, he said, yeah, ‘holy s**t, I can’t go.’” A Number 10 spokesperson told the BBC: “Since the start of the pandemic, the prime minister has taken the necessary action to protect lives and livelihoods, guided by the best scientific advice. “The government he leads has delivered the fastest vaccination rollout in Europe, saved millions of jobs through the furlough scheme and prevented the NHS from being overwhelmed through three national lockdowns. The government is entirely focused on emerging cautiously from the pandemic and building back better.” Cummings has launched multiple attacks on his former boss after leaving Downing Street in December, including at a seven-hour committee meeting with MPs and through a new subscription blog. The former chief adviser was subject to vociferous public criticism after the Guardian revealed he had travelled to Durham with his family, and later to Barnard Castle, during the national lockdown. Cummings repeated his explanation that he had left London because of threats against his family – which he told MPs in May but declined to say at a press conference he gave about the incident. “Everything that I said in the Rose Garden was true … but I didn’t go into all of the security concerns in the background,” he said “The way we handled the whole thing was, was wrong on the Monday. What I should have done is either just resigned and said nothing about anything, or I should have spoken to my family and said, listen we’re just gonna have to come clean about the whole thing.” All pretty explosive stuff but none if it surprised me. It was clear from day one that Johnson was incapable of running a bath let alone a country. According to Cummings he even admitted that himself. One things clear though as many of us have said the only reason he is there and ultimately the main reason we now have 150000+ people dead on his watch is because of Brexit. No Brexit, no Johnson, no disastrous handling of the Pandemic and it aint over yet either. I sincerely hope that there is an enquiry sooner rather than later (Fat chance probably) and that heads roll starting with Johnsons. On what planet in a so call civilised western democracy is it right for such a charlatan who has to rely on either a Bond Villain or his batty wife to run the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-21 9:18 AM The Scum reports "Fifty kids a week in hospital with Covid"... My local trust had 54 in one day! We've had 279 children hospitalised with Covid in the last 7 days, up 67% on the previous week. UPDATE week to 19-July Childhood COVID, England Child cases up +25%, setting daily record Child hospitalisations rising, up +71% in a week 6% of CV19 admissions are children 1 in every 200 child cases is hospitalised Next slide please So you've got a chum called "jneill" who takes the PHE data and spins it to suit his LOSER agenda *-) .......... Next load of Lefty Bollox's please :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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