silverbike Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 We are hoping to travel to Germany and France this summer taking a small motorbike on the back of the van. Other friends will have their bike on a trailer. The big question is, Do we need a carnet and if so who issues it? Can anyone point to the definitive regulation about this? Information at present seems to be that as long as the rider is in the main vehicle it is not a problem but has anyone direct experience with this? We will be attending a social meeting, no racing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 A carnet for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbike Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 The motorbikes! There is a lot of confusion in motorcycling circles. Lots say it appears to be or should be OK but post Brexit things have changed. It is to do with the bikes being a temporary import to the countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocs Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 There is no Carnet required for a towed car, so none will be required for a motorcycle. Normally only needed when you go to Africa etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simian Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I've taken various motorcycles to Europe and north Africa for over 20 years (every year), Including since January 31st 2020 ie the post Brexit era, I've not been asked to produce a carnet for temporary importation (or any other documentation cometo that).. I don't have definitive proof, but my belief is that so long as you can provide reasonable proof that you have no intention of flogging the M/bike eg insurance certificate, V5 in your name, a single M/ bike etc then that suffices. After all even your M/home is being temporarily imported and I've never heard of anyone having to produce a carnet for that. Where the problem lies, again I don't have proof, is that where people take several M/bikes in a van obstensibely for some kind of meet or rental hire purposes then they will possibly run into problems. Morocco and Tunisia do require carnets for all vehicles usually obtainable at frontier. Even if you write off the vehicle and its just a pile scrap, you have to export it when you leave the country!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 This was covered in this January post.... https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Taking-motorbikes-into-Europe/59421/#M704686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 These links may be worth reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnet_de_Passages_en_Douane https://www.gov.uk/guidance/apply-for-a-cpd-carnet Historically, in the UK, the RAC used to issue Carnet de Passage en Douanes but ceased doing this 4 years ago for the reasons given on this webpage. https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/travel/driving-in-europe/carnet-de-passage-en-douanes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simian Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 The RAC state that Temporary Vehicle Import Carnets are not required for Morocco. Actually you do have to fill in a Temporary Vehicle Import Form (Carnet?) as mentioned in previous post. Free and no money surety involved. Normally @ the customs point at the ferry terminal, for a M/homer. When you leave Morocco you're obliged to export your vehicle even If you write it off, heap of scrap notwithstanding. There are ways of paying taxes in lieu, but involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 It may be worth highlighting that the RAC link I provided is 4 years old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbike Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 We have now arrived with no problems. No questions with bike. No questions about food, no requests to see proof of covid status, only a stamp in the passport. That was it for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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