B Dobson Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Youve just managed to escape war torn France and find shelter and then you have to deal with this . I wonder if they were infected by "government employees" https://news.sky.com/story/migrants-at-manston-to-be-vaccinated-against-diphtheria-following-spike-in-infections-12745200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Kinda strange that the usual suspects are so quiet about migrants bringing disease into the country, when you remember the hissy fit people like Barry999 and Co threw, when they didn't think the government closed our borders quick enough when COVID arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 It's really tricky, isn't it? Vaccinate to prevent further spread, or not vaccinate and leave the disease to spread - potentially outside Manston and into the surrounding community. As to migrants importing disease: it is a risk. But so too is entry to the UK by anyone, even returning UK residents, travelling from abroad Weren't the first Covid cases in UK imported by some Chinese who'd entered entirely legally and properly, and wasn't the first UK citizen to contract Covid a British man who had returned to the UK from Singapore via a skiing holiday in the Alps? None of the above were immigrants. We are all doomed, I tell you, doomed. May I please panic now, or must I wait until later? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dobson Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Barry Lineker said: Kinda strange that the usual suspects are so quiet about migrants bringing disease into the country, when you remember the hissy fit people like Barry999 and Co threw, when they didn't think the government closed our borders quick enough when COVID arrived. Yes Barry Lineker I believe I know what you mean . I wonder if those providing the free taxi service over from just outside the dangerous waters of Calais are aware of the health risks? . Here are some of those fleeing war and persecution today going for their vaccines and thanking the French for keeping them safe . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11420169/Would-migrants-hurl-stones-French-riot-police-stopping-Channel-crossings-Dunkirk.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Brian Kirby said: It's really tricky, isn't it? Vaccinate to prevent further spread, or not vaccinate and leave the disease to spread - potentially outside Manston and into the surrounding community. As to migrants importing disease: it is a risk. But so too is entry to the UK by anyone, even returning UK residents, travelling from abroad Weren't the first Covid cases in UK imported by some Chinese who'd entered entirely legally and properly, and wasn't the first UK citizen to contract Covid a British man who had returned to the UK from Singapore via a skiing holiday in the Alps? None of the above were immigrants. We are all doomed, I tell you, doomed. May I please panic now, or must I wait until later? 🤣 Thats bamboozled the twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 13 hours ago, B Dobson said: Yes Barry Lineker I believe I know what you mean . I wonder if those providing the free taxi service over from just outside the dangerous waters of Calais are aware of the health risks? . Here are some of those fleeing war and persecution today going for their vaccines and thanking the French for keeping them safe . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11420169/Would-migrants-hurl-stones-French-riot-police-stopping-Channel-crossings-Dunkirk.html Knowing that we have people like Barry999 and Brian, who are so keen for the UK to provide a home for them, will no doubt give them further encourgement to risk their lives to break our laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dobson Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Barry Lineker said: Knowing that we have people like Barry999 and Brian, who are so keen for the UK to provide a home for them, will no doubt give them further encourgement to risk their lives to break our laws. One customer of mine who I was working for on Monday started talking about politics and then got on to me about the migrant situation as hes just had to find other hotel accommodation because for the 3rd time hes quite rightly been told his pre-booked room now has gone to one more needy . Hes a retired teacher and he came up with a really great idea that maybe we should consider, he suggested giving the young men who've thankfully escaped terrible persecution in France work visas so they can go and work in care homes . Yes thats right a retired teacher wants those brave young men to work with our vulnerable in care homes because care homes are desperate for staff which of course is due to that blooming Brexit . Im sure hes right and I went away in the afternoon thinking how fantastic it is that we have these forward thinking and caring individuals teaching our youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry Lineker said: Knowing that we have people like Barry999 and Brian, who are so keen for the UK to provide a home for them, will no doubt give them further encourgement to risk their lives to break our laws. Who said I want them here? Genuine refugees from war zones, yes we should help them or those that are genuinely escaping human traffickers but its clear most of these Albanians are here to work illegally. So your government lets them all in and even drops hundreds of them off in the middle of the night in Kent to disappear to God knows where. Your government has lost control of our borders since Brexit. The whole world can see it, the electorate can see it so presumably so can you. Can we therefore assume as like your chum on here has declared you will no longer be supporting the Tory party at the next election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Barry Lineker said: Knowing that we have people like Barry999 and Brian, who are so keen for the UK to provide a home for them, will no doubt give them further encourgement to risk their lives to break our laws. I sniff hypocrisy! Human beings did not evolve from the apes on in the British Isles, so we were all incomers at some point in our past. When did you lot arrive Barry Lineker, to allow you to imply that migrants are an inferior race? This, from "House of Names" may interest you: "The surname Lineker was first found in Cheshire where they held a family seat as Lords of the Manor of Linacra in 1086. After the Battle of Hastings in 1066, William, Duke of Normandy, having prevailed over King Harold, granted most of Britain to his many victorious Barons. It was not uncommon to find a Baron, or a Bishop, with 60 or more Lordships scattered throughout the country. These he gave to his sons, nephews and other junior lines of his family and they became known as under-tenants. They adopted the Norman system of surnames which identified the under-tenant with his holdings so as to distinguish him from the senior stem of the family. After many rebellious wars between his Barons, Duke William, commissioned a census of all England to determine in 1086, settling once and for all, who held which land. He called the census the Domesday Book, [1] indicating that those holders registered would hold the land until the end of time. Hence, the family name is conjecturally descended from Godwin de Linacra, a Norman Baron, as noted in 1086. However, it is likely that soon after, they gave their name to Linacre across the River Mersey from Meols, now a suburb of Liverpool and in the parish of Walton on the Hill." If so, it seems the family has since fallen on hard times! BTW, it seems my lot arrived well before yours, so I get the casting vote on settlement rights. 🙂 Bleedin' Norman-Scouse upstart incomer! 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Brian Kirby said: I sniff hypocrisy! Human beings did not evolve from the apes on in the British Isles, so we were all incomers at some point in our past. When did you lot arrive Barry Lineker, to allow you to imply that migrants are an inferior race? This, from "House of Names" may interest you: "The surname Lineker was first found in Cheshire where they held a family seat as Lords of the Manor of Linacra in 1086. After the Battle of Hastings in 1066, William, Duke of Normandy, having prevailed over King Harold, granted most of Britain to his many victorious Barons. It was not uncommon to find a Baron, or a Bishop, with 60 or more Lordships scattered throughout the country. These he gave to his sons, nephews and other junior lines of his family and they became known as under-tenants. They adopted the Norman system of surnames which identified the under-tenant with his holdings so as to distinguish him from the senior stem of the family. After many rebellious wars between his Barons, Duke William, commissioned a census of all England to determine in 1086, settling once and for all, who held which land. He called the census the Domesday Book, [1] indicating that those holders registered would hold the land until the end of time. Hence, the family name is conjecturally descended from Godwin de Linacra, a Norman Baron, as noted in 1086. However, it is likely that soon after, they gave their name to Linacre across the River Mersey from Meols, now a suburb of Liverpool and in the parish of Walton on the Hill." If so, it seems the family has since fallen on hard times! BTW, it seems my lot arrived well before yours, so I get the casting vote on settlement rights. 🙂 Bleedin' Norman-Scouse upstart incomer! 😄 You maybe should be researching "Pelmetman" rather than "Lineker" Brian. 🤣 The thought of Dave discovering he is French though is too much. I fear I would need an ambulance. Can you die laughing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Where does Windsor come from ? Hanover or or Gotha ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, Barryd999 said: You maybe should be researching "Pelmetman" rather than "Lineker" Brian. 🤣 The thought of Dave discovering he is French though is too much. I fear I would need an ambulance. Can you die laughing? Asquith IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, mtravel said: Where does Windsor come from ? Hanover or or Gotha ? For any 'commoners' with the surname; https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Windsor And Royalty; https://www.royal.uk/royal-family-name#:~:text=The family name was changed,Castle of the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Barryd999 said: Who said I want them here? Genuine refugees from war zones, yes we should help them or those that are genuinely escaping human traffickers but its clear most of these Albanians are here to work illegally. So your government lets them all in and even drops hundreds of them off in the middle of the night in Kent to disappear to God knows where. Your government has lost control of our borders since Brexit. The whole world can see it, the electorate can see it so presumably so can you. Can we therefore assume as like your chum on here has declared you will no longer be supporting the Tory party at the next election? I don't recall you objecting to the ECHR preventing the Rwanda flight? So one can only assume you want them to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Brian Kirby said: I sniff hypocrisy! Human beings did not evolve from the apes on in the British Isles, so we were all incomers at some point in our past. When did you lot arrive Barry Lineker, to allow you to imply that migrants are an inferior race? This, from "House of Names" may interest you: "The surname Lineker was first found in Cheshire where they held a family seat as Lords of the Manor of Linacra in 1086. After the Battle of Hastings in 1066, William, Duke of Normandy, having prevailed over King Harold, granted most of Britain to his many victorious Barons. It was not uncommon to find a Baron, or a Bishop, with 60 or more Lordships scattered throughout the country. These he gave to his sons, nephews and other junior lines of his family and they became known as under-tenants. They adopted the Norman system of surnames which identified the under-tenant with his holdings so as to distinguish him from the senior stem of the family. After many rebellious wars between his Barons, Duke William, commissioned a census of all England to determine in 1086, settling once and for all, who held which land. He called the census the Domesday Book, [1] indicating that those holders registered would hold the land until the end of time. Hence, the family name is conjecturally descended from Godwin de Linacra, a Norman Baron, as noted in 1086. However, it is likely that soon after, they gave their name to Linacre across the River Mersey from Meols, now a suburb of Liverpool and in the parish of Walton on the Hill." If so, it seems the family has since fallen on hard times! BTW, it seems my lot arrived well before yours, so I get the casting vote on settlement rights. 🙂 Bleedin' Norman-Scouse upstart incomer! 😄 If new anything about Primates Brian, then you'd know that they don't mix well with other troops or indeed other race's of apes. Perhaps the human race isn't as different as our more hairy relatives, if the history you quote is anything to go by🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry Lineker said: ......................................Perhaps the human race isn't as different as our more hairy relatives, if the history you quote is anything to go by🤣 From which I can only conclude that some of us are further developed from the apes than others! 🙂 It seems a shame to waste 5 million years of evolution by standing still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry Lineker said: I don't recall you objecting to the ECHR preventing the Rwanda flight? So one can only assume you want them to come here. Why would I as the ECHR did not prevent the Rwanda flight as has been carefully and repeatedly explained to you many times. Brian clearly has more patience with you than I do. I think actually I said at the time and have repeatedly said since that it was all set up to fail as the Tories knew they could rely on people like you to blame it all on lefties, The EU (Bizarrely), Remoaners and probably Jeremy Corbyn and you fell for it once again and did exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Brian Kirby said: From which I can only conclude that some of us are further developed from the apes than others! 🙂 It seems a shame to waste 5 million years of evolution by standing still. Yes, some of us have developed a massive superiority complex🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Barryd999 said: Why would I as the ECHR did not prevent the Rwanda flight as has been carefully and repeatedly explained to you many times. Brian clearly has more patience with you than I do. I think actually I said at the time and have repeatedly said since that it was all set up to fail as the Tories knew they could rely on people like you to blame it all on lefties, The EU (Bizarrely), Remoaners and probably Jeremy Corbyn and you fell for it once again and did exactly that. The only reason it failed so far is because of the Socialist lawyering trade here and in the ECHR. You and Brian can deny that the ECHR were responsible for stopping the Rwanda flight until your blue in the face, fortunately those us who live in the real world know they were responsible just as even the Left wing MSN does. The Brexit bonus of ECHR sticking their oar in, is making a British Bill of Rights more likely🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry Lineker said: The only reason it failed so far is because of the Socialist lawyering trade here and in the ECHR. You and Brian can deny that the ECHR were responsible for stopping the Rwanda flight until your blue in the face, fortunately those us who live in the real world know they were responsible just as even the Left wing MSN does. The Brexit bonus of ECHR sticking their oar in, is making a British Bill of Rights more likely🤣 Its pointless. Brian and I may as well be debating with a Turnip. The brainwashing is complete with you isn't it? Lefty Lawyers! Remoaners! Jeremy Corbyn! Jeesaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 11 hours ago, Barryd999 said: Its pointless. Brian and I may as well be debating with a Turnip. The brainwashing is complete with you isn't it? Lefty Lawyers! Remoaners! Jeremy Corbyn! Jeesaz. That brainwashing is working surprisingly well in your wonderful EU, judging by the results of the recent election in Italy🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Barry Lineker said: That brainwashing is working surprisingly well in your wonderful EU, judging by the results of the recent election in Italy🤣 Yes it would seem the Italians are as stupid as the English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Barryd999 said: Yes it would seem the Italians are as stupid as the English. Hey !!! At least we have thrown the King overboard for nearly eighty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, mtravel said: Hey !!! At least we have thrown the King overboard for nearly eighty years. LOL! I almost added "present company excepted" max which means not you! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lineker Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, mtravel said: Hey !!! At least we have thrown the King overboard for nearly eighty years. I'd rather have a popular king than a President who neither side wanted🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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