gonewiththewind Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I hope I am dreaming, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that mobile Caravans, Boats and any thing used as a means of partaking a holiday is to be treated as a holiday home and as such would be liable for councel tax. Please tell me that I have dreamt it. Cheers Don 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I have never heard of this one and I hope not as we pay tax already . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod_vw Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 We already do in many countries in Europe in the form of a Tourist tax which is included with their camp site fees. So nothing new there then just Britain coming in line with the EU? I'll bet it is a rise in campsite fees here in Britain! Even though we are paying far more here that we do when in most other EU countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 And how many people who live full time or for extended periods in their motorhomes don't pay any council tax at all? >:-) D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 This was raised on another forum about a month ago by a resident of Dave's home town who said "I have been chatting with a mate, who has heard that they are considering charging council tax on motorhomes, something along the lines of it being considered an holiday home." Having got sick of a lot if silly speculation I contacted the Communities and Local Government Department and VOSA asking if there are any proposals (draft, consultative or otherwise) for introducing council tax charges on motorhomes. Someone else contacted the Valuation Office Agency with a similar query. All three bodies denied any knowledge of proposals for changing the current rules. The VOA did point out, however, that under existing rules, a motor home can be liable for council tax as a caravan under existing legislation "If such a caravan is used as a permanent sole or main residence, and is located on a recognised pitch, and the vehicle always returns to that pitch, then the pitch will fall to be treated as a dwelling for Council Tax purposes. Similarly, if such a vehicle became permanently located on such a site, the pitch together with the caravan would be treated as the dwelling." So, Don, any rumour of taxing the vast majority of our vans is just a bad dream :-D Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Well done for finding out Graham. Sounds like another scare story and misinformation. Gassing and 'A' frames also seem to fall in this category.Somebody change the spelling of Council!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick H. Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 GJH - 2007-10-13 8:12 AM This was raised on another forum about a month ago by a resident of Dave's home town who said "I have been chatting with a mate, who has heard that they are considering charging council tax on motorhomes, something along the lines of it being considered an holiday home." Having got sick of a lot if silly speculation I contacted the Communities and Local Government Department and VOSA asking if there are any proposals (draft, consultative or otherwise) for introducing council tax charges on motorhomes. Someone else contacted the Valuation Office Agency with a similar query. All three bodies denied any knowledge of proposals for changing the current rules. The VOA did point out, however, that under existing rules, a motor home can be liable for council tax as a caravan under existing legislation "If such a caravan is used as a permanent sole or main residence, and is located on a recognised pitch, and the vehicle always returns to that pitch, then the pitch will fall to be treated as a dwelling for Council Tax purposes. Similarly, if such a vehicle became permanently located on such a site, the pitch together with the caravan would be treated as the dwelling." So, Don, any rumour of taxing the vast majority of our vans is just a bad dream :-D Graham (All Three bodies denied any knowledge of proposals for changing the current rules.) If the board of a football club say similar about their manager (he has our full support) you can be sure he's gonna get the sack. No smoke without fire. Mick H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Not a dream, a Nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonewiththewind Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 So I can't spell :D But I do have nightmares. More about nit-pickers than about bigger issues. >:-) Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Mick H. - 2007-10-13 10:04 AM (All Three bodies denied any knowledge of proposals for changing the current rules.) If the board of a football club say similar about their manager (he has our full support) you can be sure he's gonna get the sack. No smoke without fire. Mick H. I deliberately mentioned the Freedom of Information Act when posing the questions Mick. If the answers do turn out to be untrue I shall be straight onto my contacts in the Information Commissioner's Office. To be fair, though, given the way in which the complete answers were phrased I think it's just a stupid rumour started by a WOTFO (Wazzock Of The First Order) :D Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel E Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Though there is no tourist tax at UK caravan sites, I think you'll find that they pay full Business Rates. In some areas, businesses that 'Limited by Guarantee' can get large discounts from the standard Business Rate, but they are not allowed to distribute profits. If wound up, they have to have provisions for the disposal of their assets as gifts to a suitable giftee - for example an individual caravan site might wish to nominate, say, the Caravan Club as such. Incidentally, Business rates have gone up alarmingly, partly as a result od the revaluation that occurred about 10 years ago. And, of course, this is incorporated into camp site charges. Mel E ==== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 BUTTTTTTTTTTT ..... now that Graham's gone and rung 'em and told 'em, do you think that it might give them the idea that they could do it? 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Mel B - 2007-10-13 6:58 PM BUTTTTTTTTTTT ..... now that Graham's gone and rung 'em and told 'em, do you think that it might give them the idea that they could do it? 8-) They wouldn't dare Mel - I told 'em I'd set you on 'em if they did >:-) Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 The business rate revaluation was two years ago , but everyone should appeal their valuations, it is always worth a try . There are agents that will do this for a 'share' of the winnings. I know this as Local Councils also appeal the valuations of their properties. Business rates is a TAX = just like Council TAX. It is not a charge for use of the services. As for full tmers avoiding it, well they are probaly paying a lot more in Fuel Excise Duty - another tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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