Guest pelmetman Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52311263 The EU's finest moment eh? >:-) ........... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 What no Loser responses? 8-) ....... Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs :D ....... Least I would if we didn't live in a bungalow (lol) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 When the going gets tough ... The EU gets going ... Lordy ... Role on Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-04-23 4:34 PM When the going gets tough ... The EU gets going ... Lordy ... Role on Christmas The EU is doing wonders for those in Europe, who like us Brexiteers seek freedom B-) ........ Kinda get the feeling the "EU every country for themselves" reality will get worse once they try to get out of the financial mess the world will be in, once Chinky Flu has passed 8-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 At least they apologised it seems. As far as Pelmet Head is concerned Johnson could go around lopping off peoples heads dressed only in his Y fronts while shaking hands with everyone he meets and he would still think he was doing a good job. When are we going to see some apologies for the seven weeks hey dicked about toying with the now bottled and failed herd immunity plan? Or perhaps an apology for lying about just about everything from securing vital testing to not taking part in the EU PPE Procurement plan because it wasnt very Brexity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-04-23 4:47 PM Birdbrain - 2020-04-23 4:34 PM When the going gets tough ... The EU gets going ... Lordy ... Role on Christmas The EU is doing wonders for those in Europe, who like us Brexiteers seek freedom B-) ........ Kinda get the feeling the "EU every country for themselves" reality will get worse once they try to get out of the financial mess the world will be in, once Chinky Flu has passed 8-) .......... Germany is guna need very deep pockets ... Very deep pockets to keep the Italians and the Poles on side after this ... Walls come tumbling down kinda thing ... Its guna be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I think it would be foolhardy to guess just who will come out of this the best, who will need the most help and where it will come from. We should keep our options open. Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension. Go for three years even. The advantage of that could be that if indeed the EU does fall apart and it looks like we would be better off out we can just do what they always planned anyway and walk away. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. It remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM I think it would be foolhardy to guess just who will come out of this the best, who will need the most help and where it will come from. We should keep our options open. Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension. Go for three years even. The advantage of that could be that if indeed the EU does fall apart and it looks like we would be better off out we can just do what they always planned anyway and walk away. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. It remains to be seen. Given guessing is what you do best and normally you "guess" wrong its a bit rich you having a dig at others who might "guess" what may or may not happen ... Jog on sweet cheeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-04-23 6:57 PM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM I think it would be foolhardy to guess just who will come out of this the best, who will need the most help and where it will come from. We should keep our options open. Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension. Go for three years even. The advantage of that could be that if indeed the EU does fall apart and it looks like we would be better off out we can just do what they always planned anyway and walk away. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. It remains to be seen. Given guessing is what you do best and normally you "guess" wrong its a bit rich you having a dig at others who might "guess" what may or may not happen ... Jog on sweet cheeks Care to comment on the logic in my post though? If you could hedge your bets why wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM I think it would be foolhardy to guess just who will come out of this the best, who will need the most help and where it will come from. We should keep our options open. Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension. Go for three years even. The advantage of that could be that if indeed the EU does fall apart and it looks like we would be better off out we can just do what they always planned anyway and walk away. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. It remains to be seen. Not really a good idea as we are likely then to get drawn in to their collective coronavirus debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I would have been most proud of the EU if we had stayed in it long enough to give them the chance to make the £billionaire owners of BoJo's Brexit supporting 'newspapers' pay tax :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-04-23 1:21 PM https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52311263 The EU's finest moment eh? >:-) ........... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ We can be proud that they have owned up to their mistakes and apologised When is BoJo going to do that *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-04-24 7:26 AM Not really a good idea as we are likely then to get drawn in to their collective coronavirus debt. Would that be worse than the debts BoJo is racking up now? At least the EU debt is for stuff that has been delivered and which works Not the useless testing kits BoJo has bought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-04-24 7:26 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM I think it would be foolhardy to guess just who will come out of this the best, who will need the most help and where it will come from. We should keep our options open. Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension. Go for three years even. The advantage of that could be that if indeed the EU does fall apart and it looks like we would be better off out we can just do what they always planned anyway and walk away. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. It remains to be seen. Not really a good idea as we are likely then to get drawn in to their collective coronavirus debt. Well thats my whole point, we wouldn't. The extended Transition period would be there if we wanted it but as Brexiteers have been telling us for years if its not working out we can just walk away, end the transition early. That is effectively what they are going to do anyway at the end of this year and with no hope in hell of a deal (partly because they dont want one anyway) we may as well hang on longer and see how it all pans out. There is and argument of course that its vital Europe shares its debt and brings the worst hit economies back online and sees them through this. Europe is still our biggest trading partner and if it goes under, we go under whether we are in the EU or not. For all we know the way Trump is handling the virus I wouldnt depend on the USA being our savour either. No, now is the time to box clever and keep our options open. We dont want to be falling out with anyone unless its the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-04-24 9:26 AM jumpstart - 2020-04-24 7:26 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM I think it would be foolhardy to guess just who will come out of this the best, who will need the most help and where it will come from. We should keep our options open. Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension. Go for three years even. The advantage of that could be that if indeed the EU does fall apart and it looks like we would be better off out we can just do what they always planned anyway and walk away. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. It remains to be seen. Not really a good idea as we are likely then to get drawn in to their collective coronavirus debt. Well thats my whole point, we wouldn't. The extended Transition period would be there if we wanted it but as Brexiteers have been telling us for years if its not working out we can just walk away, end the transition early. That is effectively what they are going to do anyway at the end of this year and with no hope in hell of a deal (partly because they dont want one anyway) we may as well hang on longer and see how it all pans out. There is and argument of course that its vital Europe shares its debt and brings the worst hit economies back online and sees them through this. Europe is still our biggest trading partner and if it goes under, we go under whether we are in the EU or not. For all we know the way Trump is handling the virus I wouldnt depend on the USA being our savour either. No, now is the time to box clever and keep our options open. We dont want to be falling out with anyone unless its the right thing to do. Barry wants to "keep our options open" with the EU , the same EU that has done nothing to help Italy in its hour of need ... You couldn't make it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 5:37 PM At least they apologised it seems. As far as Pelmet Head is concerned Johnson could go around lopping off peoples heads dressed only in his Y fronts while shaking hands with everyone he meets and he would still think he was doing a good job. When are we going to see some apologies for the seven weeks hey dicked about toying with the now bottled and failed herd immunity plan? Or perhaps an apology for lying about just about everything from securing vital testing to not taking part in the EU PPE Procurement plan because it wasnt very Brexity? It's curious that Sweden's herd immunity approach appears to be working? ;-) ......... Why aren't you calling them names? :-S ......... Just askin? >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-04-24 9:31 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-24 9:26 AM jumpstart - 2020-04-24 7:26 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM I think it would be foolhardy to guess just who will come out of this the best, who will need the most help and where it will come from. We should keep our options open. Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension. Go for three years even. The advantage of that could be that if indeed the EU does fall apart and it looks like we would be better off out we can just do what they always planned anyway and walk away. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. It remains to be seen. Not really a good idea as we are likely then to get drawn in to their collective coronavirus debt. Well thats my whole point, we wouldn't. The extended Transition period would be there if we wanted it but as Brexiteers have been telling us for years if its not working out we can just walk away, end the transition early. That is effectively what they are going to do anyway at the end of this year and with no hope in hell of a deal (partly because they dont want one anyway) we may as well hang on longer and see how it all pans out. There is and argument of course that its vital Europe shares its debt and brings the worst hit economies back online and sees them through this. Europe is still our biggest trading partner and if it goes under, we go under whether we are in the EU or not. For all we know the way Trump is handling the virus I wouldnt depend on the USA being our savour either. No, now is the time to box clever and keep our options open. We dont want to be falling out with anyone unless its the right thing to do. Barry wants to "keep our options open" with the EU , the same EU that has done nothing to help Italy in its hour of need ... You couldn't make it up Don't forget Germany blocking the export of PPE 8-) ......... https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-exports/germany-bans-export-of-medical-protection-gear-due-to-coronavirus-idUKKBN20R1TG The Fourth Reich is sticking to its motto of "all for One......and None for all" >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-04-24 9:50 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 5:37 PM At least they apologised it seems. As far as Pelmet Head is concerned Johnson could go around lopping off peoples heads dressed only in his Y fronts while shaking hands with everyone he meets and he would still think he was doing a good job. When are we going to see some apologies for the seven weeks hey dicked about toying with the now bottled and failed herd immunity plan? Or perhaps an apology for lying about just about everything from securing vital testing to not taking part in the EU PPE Procurement plan because it wasnt very Brexity? It's curious that Sweden's herd immunity approach appears to be working? ;-) ......... Why aren't you calling them names? :-S ......... Just askin? >:-) ......... The “scientists “ have told us there is no such thing as herd immunity perhaps it’s copious amounts of sex that’s the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension.. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. . We are thank fully out of The Club now No going back no transition extension will change that. The Billions we would have spent in membership are now being spent at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 witzend - 2020-04-24 11:10 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension.. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. . We are thank fully out of The Club now No going back no transition extension will change that. The Billions we would have spent in membership are now being spent at home You're wrong again. Shows how little you know. We are still making the same payments and bound by the same EU rules. The only thing that has changed is we no longer have a seat at the table or any say in the rules we are bound by. And since we are no longer in on the meetings we have to employ more people to try and find out second-hand whats being decided for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-04-24 9:54 AM Don't forget Germany blocking the export of PPE 8-) ......... https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-exports/germany-bans-export-of-medical-protection-gear-due-to-coronavirus-idUKKBN20R1TG The Fourth Reich is sticking to its motto of "all for One......and None for all" >:-) ......... How can you say that when they have DONATED 60 ventilators to Britain .. https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/Thanks-Germany/54858/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-04-24 10:03 AM pelmetman - 2020-04-24 9:50 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 5:37 PM At least they apologised it seems. As far as Pelmet Head is concerned Johnson could go around lopping off peoples heads dressed only in his Y fronts while shaking hands with everyone he meets and he would still think he was doing a good job. When are we going to see some apologies for the seven weeks hey dicked about toying with the now bottled and failed herd immunity plan? Or perhaps an apology for lying about just about everything from securing vital testing to not taking part in the EU PPE Procurement plan because it wasnt very Brexity? It's curious that Sweden's herd immunity approach appears to be working? ;-) ......... Why aren't you calling them names? :-S ......... Just askin? >:-) ......... The “scientists “ have told us there is no such thing as herd immunity perhaps it’s copious amounts of sex that’s the answer. Or maybe they are able to self isolate because they don't have Britain's housing crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 John52 - 2020-04-24 12:34 PM jumpstart - 2020-04-24 10:03 AM pelmetman - 2020-04-24 9:50 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 5:37 PM At least they apologised it seems. As far as Pelmet Head is concerned Johnson could go around lopping off peoples heads dressed only in his Y fronts while shaking hands with everyone he meets and he would still think he was doing a good job. When are we going to see some apologies for the seven weeks hey dicked about toying with the now bottled and failed herd immunity plan? Or perhaps an apology for lying about just about everything from securing vital testing to not taking part in the EU PPE Procurement plan because it wasnt very Brexity? It's curious that Sweden's herd immunity approach appears to be working? ;-) ......... Why aren't you calling them names? :-S ......... Just askin? >:-) ......... The “scientists “ have told us there is no such thing as herd immunity perhaps it’s copious amounts of sex that’s the answer. Or maybe they are able to self isolate because they don't have Britain's housing crisis I thought sex was the important bit with self isolating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-04-23 1:21 PM https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52311263 The EU's finest moment eh? >:-) ........... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Brexit claque should wait for the results before making hasty conclusions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 John52 - 2020-04-24 12:20 PM witzend - 2020-04-24 11:10 AM Barryd999 - 2020-04-23 6:33 PM Thats why we should agree to a transition period extension.. On the other hand we might be glad to be in the club. . We are thank fully out of The Club now No going back no transition extension will change that. The Billions we would have spent in membership are now being spent at home You're wrong again. Shows how little you know. We are still making the same payments and bound by the same EU rules. The only thing that has changed is we no longer have a seat at the table or any say in the rules we are bound by. And since we are no longer in on the meetings we have to employ more people to try and find out second-hand whats being decided for us. You mean those same rules of free movement? ;-) ........... It's funny how the only border we were held up in queues on the way home was between Spain & France >:-) ....... Sailed right through at the Chunnel B-) ......... Perhaps the planning for BREXIT helped? >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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