vansearcher Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 My Autosleeper Nuevo is based upon a Peugeot Boxer 290 SWB 2.0 HDI Diesel (1997cc) first registered in January 2003 .Taxation Class is stated as Private/Light Goods. Revenue weight is 3300kg. The CO2 emissions are not mentioned on my Registration Certificate for the vehicle. My Tax disc reminder asks for £205.00 for 12 months. From table V149 on Direct Gov., £205 is for Taxation Class TC11 (Private/Light Goods over 1549 cc first reg before 1st March 2001 ) I thought perhaps I should be in Taxation Class TC39 for "Light Goods Vehicles" not over 2500kg, reg after March 2001, and so - £200. After two phone calls to Direct Gov I'm still confused. I have been told that TC39 is only for goods vehicles and not Private/Light Goods vehicles. I was told that I am in TC11 because the is no CO2 emissions figure in my logbook. Does anyone have the same age, weight, engine size as me and what do you pay for car tax? What are the CO2 emission figures for my engine? Maybe I'm better off paying the £205 that's been asked for. Any knowledge/explanation would be welcome Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 £205 is the right fee for your vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_C Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Yes, PLG is the correct category for virtually all motorhomes up to 3500kg GVW, over 3500kg it's PHGV which is £165/year. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 This may help: http://tinyurl.com/48se47j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_C Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Brian Kirby - 2011-03-07 2:54 PM This may help: http://tinyurl.com/48se47j Well, you might have linked to the original article that 'Honest John' nicked! http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-road-tax.shtml Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Andy_C - 2011-03-07 2:58 PM Brian Kirby - 2011-03-07 2:54 PM This may help: http://tinyurl.com/48se47j Well, you might have linked to the original article that 'Honest John' nicked! http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-road-tax.shtml Andy Well I might have, but the Honest John link is what I got from my search engine! Hard world, innit? :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_C Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Brian Kirby - 2011-03-07 3:06 PMAndy_C - 2011-03-07 2:58 PM Brian Kirby - 2011-03-07 2:54 PM This may help: http://tinyurl.com/48se47j Well, you might have linked to the original article that 'Honest John' nicked! http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-road-tax.shtml Andy Well I might have, but the Honest John link is what I got from my search engine! Hard world, innit? :-DI gave them permission to use it, providing they included a link, but suggested that it would be better to just link to the original piece, which has in fact changed since they copied it.Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vansearcher Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks for all replies and useful websites. I'll now pay up and look happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 vansearcher - 2011-03-07 9:07 PM Thanks for all replies and useful websites. I'll now pay up and look happy. So you should! I have just taxed my m/home and this year it has gone up to £220 and 2 x 6-months comes to £242. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 vansearcher - 2011-03-07 9:07 PM Thanks for all replies and useful websites. I'll now pay up and look happy. Ahh, but should you be? As you are not registered as a Motorhome i.e. by virtue of not paying PLG £220, does that not mean that you are subject to the restrictions placed on Light Goods Vehicles? I don't know, as I am not familiar with the modern taxation systems but know that my Light Goods Vehicle is subject to lower speed limits etc. perhaps someone could clarify. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Basil - 2012-04-19 3:41 PM vansearcher - 2011-03-07 9:07 PM Thanks for all replies and useful websites. I'll now pay up and look happy. Ahh, but should you be? As you are not registered as a Motorhome i.e. by virtue of not paying PLG £220, does that not mean that you are subject to the restrictions placed on Light Goods Vehicles? I don't know, as I am not familiar with the modern taxation systems but know that my Light Goods Vehicle is subject to lower speed limits etc. perhaps someone could clarify. Bas I think you may have overlooked that this thread began in March 2012 when the annual VED rate for Taxation Class 11 (TC11 - Private/Light Goods Vehicles) was still £205. No motorhome is registered in the UK as a "motorhome" - the DVLA's designation is "Motor Caravan" and this descriptor should appear in the Body Type (D3) field on the motohome's UK Registration Certificate. The reason that motorhomes up to 3500kg MTPLM fall into TC11 is basically (as was explained to vansearcher) that there are (or have been) no CO2 emissions data available for the motorhome base-vehicles that would permit the converted motorhomes to be slotted into the UK emissions-related VED classes that apply to cars. It's an anachronism that only becomes apparent from the final element of the PLG Tax Class description on page 3 of DVLA's V355/1leaflet. http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_183952.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Derek this thread was started in March 2011, not 2012! If, as you say, the amount due then was £205 it seems to be increasing at a very rapid rate. I paid £217.50 in April 2011 and now £220 or in my case £242 as I have only taxed for 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 If I only intend to use my vehicles for 6 months, I always tax it for 12 months and then cancell it and get a refund for the unused 6 months. This way you save 20 odd quid. Also I thought that motorhomes are generally classed as private light goods (PLG) the same as a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Patricia - 2012-04-19 9:33 PM Derek this thread was started in March 2011, not 2012! If, as you say, the amount due then was £205 it seems to be increasing at a very rapid rate. I paid £217.50 in April 2011 and now £220 or in my case £242 as I have only taxed for 6 months. A slip of the typing finger.. Annual rates of VED for TC11 (PLG): From April 1 2005 - £170 From April 1 2006 - £175 From April 1 2007 - £180 From April 1 2008 - £185 From April 1 2009 - £190 From April 1 2010 - £205 From April 1 2011 - £215 From April 1 2012 - £220 You'll see that the annual rate from 2005/6 through 2009/10 rose in £5 increments. Then there was a £15 jump from £190 to £205 for 2010/11, followed by a £10 increase for 2011/12. This year (2012/13) the rise in the annual rate is £5. (Not sure where your "£217.50 for April 2011" came from - the annual PLG VED rate from April 1 2011 was £215 and the 6-months rate was £118.25. The PLG VED 6-months rate from April 1 2012 is £121.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Derek Uzzell - 2012-04-20 8:05 AM (Not sure where your "£217.50 for April 2011" came from - the annual PLG VED rate from April 1 2011 was £215) That will be the £215 VED plus £2.50 for paying by Credit Card! Keith. Edit. So being PHGV has it's advantages... April 2008 £165 April 2009 £165 April 2010 £165 April 2011 £165 April 2012 £165 :-D :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 peter - 2012-04-19 10:07 PM ...Also I thought that motorhomes are generally classed as private light goods (PLG) the same as a car. For VED purposes 'motor caravans' with an MTPLM not exceeding 3500kg normally fall into the TC11 Private/Light Goods Vehicles (PLG) class. TC11 is itself split into 2 sub-categories based on a vehicle's engine size - Not over 1549cc (2012/13 annual rate £135) or Over 1549cc (2012/13 annual rate £220). TC11 is the traditional VED 'car' class. There have been instances where a 'not-exceeding-3500kg' motor caravan has been placed in a VED class other than TC11 - this is referred to in the links provided earlier in this thread. A 'motor caravan' over 3500kg MTPLM falls into TC10 (Private HGV). TC10 has no engine-size sub-categories and its VED rates from April 1 2012 are £165 (annual) or £90.75 (6 months). Worth mentioning perhaps that obtaining a VED refund for a vehicle nowadays may require a SORN http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_069727 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thanks for clearing that up Derek, and all, I had overlooked the date the thread was started. As I have no experience of how vehicles of a 'more youthfull' age than ours were being treated I assumed that they fell into some graduated scale. Sorry, yes when I reffered to motorhome I was generalising rather than specifically stating the DVLA classification. I suppose it is because I have read in the not to distant past that some post registration van conversions had had dificulty in being registered as a motorhome, sorry motor caravan, and therefore they are potentially legally still subject to van speed restrictions. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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