kevandali Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi everyone. Our present vehicle has the old 2.8 JTD 5 spead engine and the one we are hoping to get has the 2.3 JTD 130BHP - 5 gears. I am not worried about the power as I think on reading several posts, it will be ok. I have confused myself about how god/bad the engine is, as I noticed there was also a 2.3 MJD. My quick question(s) is/are:- has anyone got this engine and if so is there anything I need to look out for when we test drive it at the weekend and what do you think of it? Cheers, as always Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airstream Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Please check but I am almost sure that all 2.3 130bhp engines come with a six speed transmission and its the 120bhp model that has a five speed gbx Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandrat Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 It would help if we knew the year and model you are considering buying because the latest x250 2.3 has 6 gears whereas the previous model 2.3 has a 5 speed box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirage Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I am as confused as everyone else, 130BHP X250 is 6 speed. I owned a 2.8JTD (five speed) and found the 5th gear always too high for uphill travel i.e. 5th had no power, 4th revved too much for any uphill speed. The X250 in a Panel Van form pulls perfectly adequately in 6th gear uphill and if necessary will pull uphill in 5th at speed without over revving and in my experience is far superior to the old JTD. Its overall noise level is substantially lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The manual transmission used with Fiat's 2.3litre "JTD" (uniJet Turbo Diesel) motor in X244 Ducato vehicles (marketed up to mid-2006) was 5-speed. The manual transmission used with Fiat's 2.3litre "Multijet" motor in current model X250 Ducatos (marketed from mid-2006) is 6-speed. There's no doubt about this - the manual gearbox of ALL X250 Ducatos with the 2.3litre Multijet motor had/has 6 forward-gear ratios. The 2.3litre motor has a timing-belt (plus a cam-to-cam chain), but I don't know the belt change-interval. Presumably it's this vehicle you are interested in? http://www.brownhills.co.uk/17835-fiat-lunar-goldstar-620-2-3-jtd-130bhp.html In which case I suggest that you confirm the specification with Brownhills, as the motor's correct designation should be 130 MultiJet (not JTD) and the transmission-type should be 6-speed. (I'm sure you must be aware of the transmission-related 'juddering in reverse' problems that this motor/transmission combination seemed particularly vulnerable to, so I won't comment further on that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevandali Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Just got back from the test drive, the engine is the 2.3 multi jet 130bhp 6 speed and drove really well and even though I had not read the previous thread about the juddering in reverse, I reversed up an incline and all seemed fine. Still not 100% sure about the van yet but having another look around this weekend with the better half and taking it for another test drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevandali Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Have now got all the specifications of the vehicle but unsure about the following.......MRO 3030KG MAM 3500KG Does this mean that the payload that can be carried is 470kg once the van is full of diesel and water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 In a nutshell NO as you don't say what is or is not included in the MIRO figure quoted! Where did you get the figure from and does it not say what is included? It probably includes driver at 75 kg and 90% fuel but doubtful on water. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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