Guest pelmetman Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Derek Uzzell - 2018-06-16 8:38 AM (In the late 1980s I owned a VW Golf GTi 16V car and the engine oil recommended by Golf GTi specialists was Mobil 1 that was fully-synthetic and low viscosity. There had been complaints that the GTi 16-valve motor had an unpredictable (sometimes frightenly high) oil consumption, but mine never needed topping up between oil-changes. I phoned GTi Engineering at Silverstone and said “What’s this high oil-usage scaremongering about? I’m using ’thin’ Mobil 1 oil and my car’s motor uses no oil.” The reply was “You aren’t driving it hard enough”. I felt quite humiliated...) I cant imagine you ever doing anything reckless :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 artheytrate - 2018-06-15 8:47 PM My 2017 Globecar PVC as used less than .5 of a litre in 9,000 miles, including 2 trips to Benidorm. John. So does my 1990 Autohomes Travelhome Transit ;-) ....... But after 28 years and 100k miles and 10+ trips to Spain...... I forgive Horace the expense :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monique.hubrechtsgm Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This has no relevant matter and outside the scope of the driver of motorhome whit a euro 6 engine. It is your dealer or fiat- prof who can deal whit it. When in guarantee period at least. Loss of oil is common depending on the egine architecture ands crankcase ventilation, etc. You should be between max and min.That is all. And a clean oil filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagey Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 if as fiat state that the oil is ok for 20,000 miles or 2 years which is the same time as the warranty they are not going to ask for a sample of the engine oil they will tell you its not under warranty any more ps mine has now done 10,200 miles an i have put less tha half a litre of oil in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdf Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just been to my local Fiat Professional today to get top up oil for my Euro 6. They say there is an identical oil, made by the same company but which is NOT Fiat approved. The identical oil is less than half the price or the required oil. The people in stores have been told by Fiat that warranty is void if the cheaper oil has been used BUT they can't work out how Fiat would know as both oils are the same spec. They feel play safe if engine is still in warranty but save money if not. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneb Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Being as you can get suitable oil that does meet the required Fiat specification much cheaper than the dealer "recommended" oil, why would you risk an oil that you've been told doesn't meet it? I bought 6 litres of Shell Ultra Helix ECT 0W30 for £39 delivered at my last oil change. It meets the correct Fiat spec for Euro 6 engines, and so do a number of other oils, some even cheaper. Edit: Sorry, might have misunderstood your post. If the cheaper oil meets the correct specification I see no problem. Fiat only recommend Selenia oil, they don't require it. The maintenance instructions issued to their dealers only state they must use an ACEA C2 oil meeting the stated Fiat spec and viscosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 gdf - 2018-06-19 6:40 PM Just been to my local Fiat Professional today to get top up oil for my Euro 6. They say there is an identical oil, made by the same company but which is NOT Fiat approved. The identical oil is less than half the price or the required oil... Dave The oil recommended in the Fiat Handbook for Ducato X290 diesel-fuelled vehicles with Euro 6 powerplants is Petronas SELENIA WR FORWARD https://www.pli-petronas.com/uk/products/passenger-car-oil/petronas-selenia/selenia-wr-forward The oil recommended in the Fiat Handbook for the preceding Ducato X290 diesel-fuelled vehicles with Euro 5+ powerplants is Petronas SELENIA WR PURE ENERGY https://www.pli-petronas.com/uk/products/passenger-car-oil/petronas-selenia/selenia-wr-pure-energy The product range for Petronas SELENIA lubricants is shown here https://www.pli-petronas.com/uk/products/passenger-car-oil/petronas-selenia It’s certainly possible to obtain differently-branded oils that comply with the advised Fiat Classification (Deneb chose the appropriate Shell oil) and that significant cost-savings can be made in doing so. And, if a differently-branded oil does comply with the advised Fiat Classification, there’s no real reason to believe that using it would be harmful to a Ducato’s motor or its Fiat warranty. But I’d be interested to know what this “identical oil made by the same company” is that your local Fiat Professional told you about, as I’m doubtful that such an oil exists. What I could well understand is that Fiat would insist that Fiat Professional (FP) agents adhere strictly to the advice in the Ducato Owner Handbook and only use the appropriate Petronas SELENIA lubricants when servicing a Ducato within its warranty period. In fact, knowing that Fiat advises that a particular SELENIA oil be used for my Ducato, I’d want to see on the servicing documention an indication that a FP agent had used that oil rather than another brand. Plainly, if one is having the servicing carried out by a non-FP garage or are DIY-ing the oil change, there’s more flexibility and (as Deneb says) provided that the oil used meets the advised Fiat specificatiion there’s no mandatory requirement to opt for a Petronas SELENIA oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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