malc d Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Violet1956 - 2017-12-21 3:28 PM . I don't know anything about that aspect of the law or whether a "public interest" defence is available. . Some members of the public ( sadly I would guess quite a few ) would be "interested " in the information that the policemen leaked to the media - but it is clearly NOT " in the public interest " that the police can come into your house ( or place of work ) and report what they find their when it is NOT relevant to the investigation that they are involved in - and does not involve any illegal activity. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muswell Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 malc d - 2017-12-21 9:01 PM Violet1956 - 2017-12-21 3:28 PM . I don't know anything about that aspect of the law or whether a "public interest" defence is available. . Some members of the public ( sadly I would guess quite a few ) would be "interested " in the information that the policemen leaked to the media - but it is clearly NOT " in the public interest " that the police can come into your house ( or place of work ) and report what they find their when it is NOT relevant to the investigation that they are involved in - and does not involve any illegal activity. :-| The rich irony is that the police went to DG's office because he had been leaking information. Hoist with his own petard springs to mind. Incidentally, viewing porn on an office computer was a dismissable offence when I was at work, and people were dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Muswell - 2017-12-21 11:30 PM malc d - 2017-12-21 9:01 PM Violet1956 - 2017-12-21 3:28 PM . I don't know anything about that aspect of the law or whether a "public interest" defence is available. . Some members of the public ( sadly I would guess quite a few ) would be "interested " in the information that the policemen leaked to the media - but it is clearly NOT " in the public interest " that the police can come into your house ( or place of work ) and report what they find their when it is NOT relevant to the investigation that they are involved in - and does not involve any illegal activity. :-| The rich irony is that the police went to DG's office because he had been leaking information. Hoist with his own petard springs to mind. Incidentally, viewing porn on an office computer was a dismissable offence when I was at work, and people were dismissed. I think the porn is a bit of a side issue really which the media have turned into a "titter titter oo er" thing which clouded the issue and provided a diversion. It was legal porn anyway but as you say in most workplaces it's usually a dismissable offence. His main undoing was making misleading statements (about the porn).but the whole business is murky from a long running 'battle' with a senior Met officer to an over ambitious young woman he'd flirted with. Add into that Green being pro-Remain and Brexit Tories have been sharpening their knives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Muswell - 2017-12-21 11:30 PM malc d - 2017-12-21 9:01 PM Violet1956 - 2017-12-21 3:28 PM . I don't know anything about that aspect of the law or whether a "public interest" defence is available. . Some members of the public ( sadly I would guess quite a few ) would be "interested " in the information that the policemen leaked to the media - but it is clearly NOT " in the public interest " that the police can come into your house ( or place of work ) and report what they find their when it is NOT relevant to the investigation that they are involved in - and does not involve any illegal activity. :-| The rich irony is that the police went to DG's office because he had been leaking information. Hoist with his own petard springs to mind. Incidentally, viewing porn on an office computer was a dismissable offence when I was at work, and people were dismissed. 1) As I recall he was not accused of " leaking information " - he was accused ( by the Labour government of the time ) to have received leaked information which would cause embarrassment to the Labour government relating to an illegal immigrant working somewhere in Parliament. i.e. This has been described by some as doing the job in opposition that he was paid for. 2) There was legal porn found on a computer in his office but, apparently, no evidence that he had downloaded it - or viewed it. It was only the opinion of the police that he had downloaded it. What I have never heard talked about is how many other people had access to that computer. As ever, I doubt we will ever know what really went on, as everything we hear about Westminster is told to us with a political bias. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 The woman who complained (publicly) about Damion Green (presumably) making a pass at her by fleetingly touching her knee many years earlier and said she has never called for his resignation but she hoped (all along?) for an apology and now hopes she never sees him again. She said she realises that her career has not been helped by all this. The Prime Minister was interviewed and said Ms Maltby had had an apology. It's difficult to see this knee-touching allegation and the way it's been dragged up repeatedly as anything other than a non-storm in a deliberately spilled teacup. Having seen Ms Maltby in her current not-so-young presentation, she looks a bit of a frump and maybe she wants to spend her life as an unattached spinster anyway, which is why she made such a fuss about someone making what sounds like a somewhat tentative pass at her all those years ago. It's not clear she has much to offer the political world in her own right either and I suspect that her 15 minutes of fame will be just that and her career prospects are modest. Clearly the pressure was mounting on Mr Green and he had to go one way or another, such is politics. Sacking him for being a bit misleading about whether the allegations of having porn on his computer was a recent surpise to him when it wasn't was an expedient and benign way of administering the chop. I can't imagine his wife has enjoyed hearing about his flirtatiouness of the past and perhaps also of the more recent past but maybe she has her own life anyway. Parliament is said to be a sexually charged place to work and the Kate Maltbys of this world want that to change, maybe because they are no longer getting much attention and haven't succeeded in making much use of it so far. Male politicians, allegedly the predators but maybe in reality predated upon too, may now be slightly more careful about dirty jokes, innuendo and propositioning women at work but I suspect that will only be temporary, human nature being what it is. Women who fancy someone will presumably still swing their hips and pout their lips. Thank goodness Theresa May looks unlikely to have been groping toy boys; we could do with things settling down for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 StuartO - 2017-12-22 9:40 AMThe woman who complained (publicly) about Damion Green (presumably) making a pass at her by fleetingly touching her knee many years earlier and said she has never called for his resignation but she hoped (all along?) for an apology and now hopes she never sees him again. She said she realises that her career has not been helped by all this. The Prime Minister was interviewed and said Ms Maltby had had an apology. It's difficult to see this knee-touching allegation and the way it's been dragged up repeatedly as anything other than a non-storm in a deliberately spilled teacup. Having seen Ms Maltby in her current not-so-young presentation, she looks a bit of a frump and maybe she wants to spend her life as an unattached spinster anyway, which is why she made such a fuss about someone making what sounds like a somewhat tentative pass at her all those years ago. It's not clear she has much to offer the political world in her own right either and I suspect that her 15 minutes of fame will be just that and her career prospects are modest. Clearly the pressure was mounting on Mr Green and he had to go one way or another, such is politics. Sacking him for being a bit misleading about whether the allegations of having porn on his computer was a recent surpise to him when it wasn't was an expedient and benign way of administering the chop. I can't imagine his wife has enjoyed hearing about his flirtatiouness of the past and perhaps also of the more recent past but maybe she has her own life anyway. Parliament is said to be a sexually charged place to work and the Kate Maltbys of this world want that to change, maybe because they are no longer getting much attention and haven't succeeded in making much use of it so far. Male politicians, allegedly the predators but maybe in reality predated upon too, may now be slightly more careful about dirty jokes, innuendo and propositioning women at work but I suspect that will only be temporary, human nature being what it is. Women who fancy someone will presumably still swing their hips and pout their lips. Thank goodness Theresa May looks unlikely to have been groping toy boys; we could do with things settling down for a while.If I were Mrs Merton I would be inclined to ask Mr Green what he thought a middle aged married man of fairly average countenance had to offer someone 30 years younger than himself. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muswell Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Violet1956 - 2017-12-22 10:16 AMStuartO - 2017-12-22 9:40 AMThe woman who complained (publicly) about Damion Green (presumably) making a pass at her by fleetingly touching her knee many years earlier and said she has never called for his resignation but she hoped (all along?) for an apology and now hopes she never sees him again. She said she realises that her career has not been helped by all this. The Prime Minister was interviewed and said Ms Maltby had had an apology. It's difficult to see this knee-touching allegation and the way it's been dragged up repeatedly as anything other than a non-storm in a deliberately spilled teacup. Having seen Ms Maltby in her current not-so-young presentation, she looks a bit of a frump and maybe she wants to spend her life as an unattached spinster anyway, which is why she made such a fuss about someone making what sounds like a somewhat tentative pass at her all those years ago. It's not clear she has much to offer the political world in her own right either and I suspect that her 15 minutes of fame will be just that and her career prospects are modest. Clearly the pressure was mounting on Mr Green and he had to go one way or another, such is politics. Sacking him for being a bit misleading about whether the allegations of having porn on his computer was a recent surpise to him when it wasn't was an expedient and benign way of administering the chop. I can't imagine his wife has enjoyed hearing about his flirtatiouness of the past and perhaps also of the more recent past but maybe she has her own life anyway. Parliament is said to be a sexually charged place to work and the Kate Maltbys of this world want that to change, maybe because they are no longer getting much attention and haven't succeeded in making much use of it so far. Male politicians, allegedly the predators but maybe in reality predated upon too, may now be slightly more careful about dirty jokes, innuendo and propositioning women at work but I suspect that will only be temporary, human nature being what it is. Women who fancy someone will presumably still swing their hips and pout their lips. Thank goodness Theresa May looks unlikely to have been groping toy boys; we could do with things settling down for a while.If I were Mrs Merton I would be inclined to ask Mr Green what he thought a middle aged married man of fairly average countenance had to offer someone 30 years younger than himself. ;-)If I were Mrs Green I would be inclined......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 Violet1956 - 2017-12-23 1:16 AM ....If I were Mrs Merton I would be inclined to ask Mr Green what he thought a middle aged married man of fairly average countenance had to offer someone 30 years younger than himself. ;-) I suspect Mrs Green might have already done that! (:S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Diane Abbot ... Openly racist towards whites and the world's worst at maths ... Still in her job Naz Shah ... Anti-Semitic and thinks white girl victims of grooming gangs should "shut their mouths" ... Still in a job Keith Vaz ... Snorted cocaine off a rent boys member ... Still in a job Damian Green ... Viewed legal porn years ago ... Sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-12-22 12:31 PM Damian Green ... Viewed legal porn years ago ... How do you know he did ? :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 malc d - 2017-12-22 1:00 PM antony1969 - 2017-12-22 12:31 PM Damian Green ... Viewed legal porn years ago ... How do you know he did ? :-| Give up ... If it had been anything illegal as a Tory the cops with all the cuts would have been all over him and he's never been charged with anything 9 years on has he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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