snail Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Hi all, thoughts now on our spring, summer trips and the necessary legislation. We have our Hymer which weighs in at 4100kg, registered new to us in April 2007, although built in 2005 old stock from Brown hills sold well discounted We intend to stay out for the whole April to September, no specific route but would like to be able to visit France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Italy, and maybe Spain and Portugal, although we usually do those in winter Questions are what do I need legally in regard to stickers on the van for emissions and speed limitations We haven't been for over 12 months and see lots of " new" regulations? Thanks snail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I doubt you need be too concerned; apart from emisions restrictions in a few cities in France, for which I believe you need a sticker (and your MH is Euro 3 so you might not get one) you should be free to go anywhere. The odd campsite in a French Town was inside an area signposted on the approach as for vehicles under 3.5 tons only but we ignored that as necessary. (Our MH, a 2006 Hymer B674, is rated at 3.9 tons.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabino Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Snail I would definatley get one for France. You never know where you might end up or be re-routed. Try here https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/demande-ext/cgu You should only pay 4 Euro 80 and no more. Beware that there are some sites out there faking it and charging around £30 to do it for you. it is very easy to do yourself . As for your Euro 3 engine. They even issue stickers for Euro 2, so you will have no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 snail This website has a lot of information about European emissions ‘sticker’ requirements https://www.crit-air.fr/en/information-about-the-critair-vignette/additional-information/badgesvignettes-in-europe.html#c18231 You need to be aware that the website ‘middle-mans’ obtaining such stickers and charges (a lot) for the service. To obtain a French sticker, follow sabino’s advice. France has a regulation requiring motorhomes with a maximum overall weight exceeding 3500kg ("les camping cars poids lourds”) to display three ‘speed limit’ discs on the vehicle’s rear. (ref. following link) https://www.camping-car-plus.com/equipement-exterieur/exterieur-cabine-cellule/disques-limitation-de-vitesse/kit-3-disques-limitation-vitesse-3742.html There’s been argument about whether this regulation applies to any over-3500kg vehicle travelling in France or only to French-registered vehicles, and this 2010 advice suggests the latter. https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/5582430/french%20speed%20limits.pdf (I’ve seen ‘heavy’ French-registered motorhomes displaying 80/100/110 discs, but I don’t recall seeing the discs on non-French-registered heavies.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJay Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Will your house b e empty for the period you are away? Check your insurance policy, as most restrict to 6 weeks max. Will your MOT and van insurance be valid for the 6 months away? Do you need medication , and if so can you get it abroad? You can't even get paracetamol in France without a prescription !! These are some of the things that need checking. we have to restrict our time away due to some of the above, so be aware PJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 hi Snail, Sure you'll have a great trip,enjoy. As for the likes of Crit Air certificate and breathalyser for France I think it is a no brainer, does it matter if you find out later it is not absolutely necessary or you had one and never used it as together the cost is negligible so much easier to just sort it and forget about it. I believe Marseilles may be introducing the emission zone as will other places and like has been said earlier in the thread you never know where you will end up. cheers and good travels derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snail Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 Morning, thanks for your replies so far! Looks like I could adorn my van with stickers! The crit air one seems to be worthwhile for France? Are there any other must haves for central Europe? Will it be euro 3 or 4? Registered in 2007, built in 2005, 2.8 engine? Have been long term touring for a few years now up to six months at a time, son lives at home, named on house insurance, and pays monthly bills instead of rent! So all good there. Cheers snail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The French system is based on a vehicle’s date of first registration. Your Hymer’s 2.8litre motor will be Euro 3, but its in-2007 registration-date should cause it to be awarded the orange Certificate Numbered “3” sticker appropriate to Euro 4 diesel-fuelled cars. (See table in following link) https://www.crit-air.fr/en/information-about-the-critair-vignette/the-french-vignette-critair/who-will-get-which-critair-colours.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snail Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ok thanks Derek That's quite an unusual surname ? Any relations in Glos who worked at the old power station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 According to this link https://www.findmypast.co.uk/surname/uzzell in the early 1900s Uzzells were most likely to live in Gloucestershire, and the incidence of the surname still seems to be concentrated in the Gloucestershire area and down towards Wales. I’ve never attempted to trace my family tree, but I don’t think any of the Uzzells in, say, the last 100 years would have been closely related to the branch I’m in - and I’m the last of my line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snail Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 Sorry Derek didn't mean to pry or cause offence? Just coincidence I worked with Ted Uzzell 30 years ago he was a engine driver generators and turbines, taught me a few things, there was also Uzzell school of motoring in Morris 1000 Anyway thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Nice to know that none of the Uzzels have acquired a criminal record! I should think that unlikely for msot of the rest of us. (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 That was back in 1900. Uzzells have gone downhill since http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-38237786 and I’ve got a criminal record (albeit not a serious one and acquired 50 years ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan k Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Many German Towns and Cities require an Umwelt Plakette to enter centre and these can be ordered here at minimal cost, https://www.berlin.de/labo/mobilitaet/kfz-zulassung/feinstaubplakette/shop.85047.php I've just received my new one as a result of a registration number change, it arrived in about 5 days alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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