Guest pelmetman Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5426395/Report-Asian-grooming-gangs-abusing-700-girls-women.html *-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 How many more victims who haven't come forward for numerous reasons ... We can all thank The BNP and Nick Griffin for exposing and bringing to the publics attention these Muslim sex gangs ... Apologists who spew out names and insults to try to silence those who accept the truth should be ashamed ... Shame on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Nobody is apologising for them. But sex offenders have got into everywhere - even the charities... the Government.... the Church... the Police.. the BBC... and are of all races. Whats objectionable is when racists single it out as if its just one race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-24 8:44 AM Nobody is apologising for them. But sex offenders have got into everywhere - even the charities... the Government.... the Church... the Police.. the BBC... and are of all races. Whats objectionable is when racists single it out as if its just one race. I'll tell you what I find objectionable....... They were and as the report says still able to get away with it, because of apologists who would rather allow kids to be raped than challenge the culture behind it *-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-02-24 9:13 AM .... They were and as the report says still able to get away with it, actually the report says they have been locked up *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-24 8:44 AM Nobody is apologising for them. But sex offenders have got into everywhere - even the charities... the Government.... the Church... the Police.. the BBC... and are of all races. Whats objectionable is when racists single it out as if its just one race. Quite right but I don't know anyone who's doing that do you ??? ... I find it objectionable when people deny that many who follow Islam (which isn't a race) think its acceptable to almost exclusively pick on white underage girls and then call those white girls white sluts , white slags etc , names that I do believe might be classed as racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-02-24 9:13 AM John52 - 2018-02-24 8:44 AM Nobody is apologising for them. But sex offenders have got into everywhere - even the charities... the Government.... the Church... the Police.. the BBC... and are of all races. Whats objectionable is when racists single it out as if its just one race. I'll tell you what I find objectionable....... They were and as the report says still able to get away with it, because of apologists who would rather allow kids to be raped than challenge the culture behind it *-) ......... The report doesn't say that Dave and if you read the article in the DM in full it says as much. Anyway, better to go back to the source perhaps :- Like the Jay report it is a bit of a long read and I am only 50 or so pages in and there are 100 more to go. One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” And I haven't seen anyone deny that the culture behind this type child grooming and exploitation needs to be tackled. Veronica . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM And I haven't seen anyone deny that the culture behind this type child grooming and exploitation needs to be tackled. Veronica Really? :-| ........ https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/muslim-community-still-denial-rochdale/ BTW hows our bet going? ;-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Time and again when the media show us block photos of numerous perpetrators so many of them are non white, regardless of where they were born - or is it being racist to notice that. My own view is that the police, local authorities, schools, social services et al all suffer from ostrich syndrome as it is far easier, less controversial and more cost effective to use speed cameras to catch a soft target like a driver than it is to investigate sexual predators and perverts of any colour but especially non white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-02-24 11:02 AM Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM And I haven't seen anyone deny that the culture behind this type child grooming and exploitation needs to be tackled. Veronica Really? :-| ........ https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/muslim-community-still-denial-rochdale/ BTW hows our bet going? ;-) .......... I meant on here Dave, I should have been more specific. I believe Nazir Afzal, who should know, supports the view that the attitudes of some Muslims to the offences were unacceptable, particularly the victim blaming that goes on. The article reflects that some Muslims agree with him, I note it was written by a Muslim woman. I keep looking out for decisions in the Court of Appeal to see if Shabir Ahmed's name appears. Last looked a couple of days ago. From the dates of cases that are being reported my best guess it that it could be another year or so before we hear unless some listing priority is given to it. Would that it was given some priority. You'd think they could shift some of the civil cases they hear that were not of such national importance to make room for it. I have no idea what their listing policy is mind. Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 11:25 AM pelmetman - 2018-02-24 11:02 AM Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM And I haven't seen anyone deny that the culture behind this type child grooming and exploitation needs to be tackled. Veronica Really? :-| ........ https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/muslim-community-still-denial-rochdale/ BTW hows our bet going? ;-) .......... I meant on here Dave, I should have been more specific. I believe Nazir Afzal, who should know, supports the view that the attitudes of some Muslims to the offences were unacceptable, particularly the victim blaming that goes on. The article reflects that some Muslims agree with him, I note it was written by a Muslim woman. I keep looking out for decisions in the Court of Appeal to see if Shabir Ahmed's name appears. Last looked a couple of days ago. From the dates of cases that are being reported my best guess it that it could be another year or so before we hear unless some listing priority is given to it. Would that it was given some priority. You'd think they could shift some of the civil cases they hear that were not of such national importance to make room for it. I have no idea what their listing policy is mind. Veronica Just found a listing policy document from the Court of Appeal. As permission to appeal was granted by the Court of Appeal (I think it was in May 2017) according to the listing policy it should be heard within 9 months to 12 months. So we should hear soon hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Tracker - 2018-02-24 11:18 AM Time and again when the media show us block photos of numerous perpetrators so many of them are non white, regardless of where they were born - or is it being racist to notice that. My own view is that the police, local authorities, schools, social services et al all suffer from ostrich syndrome as it is far easier, less controversial and more cost effective to use speed cameras to catch a soft target like a driver than it is to investigate sexual predators and perverts of any colour but especially non white. Plenty of white too and lets not forget UK's most prolific sex offender in history was white....but that doesn't sit easy with those desperately pushing their Muslim hate agenda. Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM pelmetman - 2018-02-24 9:13 AM John52 - 2018-02-24 8:44 AM Nobody is apologising for them. But sex offenders have got into everywhere - even the charities... the Government.... the Church... the Police.. the BBC... and are of all races. Whats objectionable is when racists single it out as if its just one race. I'll tell you what I find objectionable....... They were and as the report says still able to get away with it, because of apologists who would rather allow kids to be raped than challenge the culture behind it *-) ......... The report doesn't say that Dave and if you read the article in the DM in full it says as much. Anyway, better to go back to the source perhaps :- Like the Jay report it is a bit of a long read and I am only 50 or so pages in and there are 100 more to go. One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” And I haven't seen anyone deny that the culture behind this type child grooming and exploitation needs to be tackled. Veronica That's not what Pelmethead wants to read though. Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 11:25 AM pelmetman - 2018-02-24 11:02 AM Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM And I haven't seen anyone deny that the culture behind this type child grooming and exploitation needs to be tackled. Veronica Really? :-| ........ https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/muslim-community-still-denial-rochdale/ BTW hows our bet going? ;-) .......... I meant on here Dave, I should have been more specific. I believe Nazir Afzal, who should know, supports the view that the attitudes of some Muslims to the offences were unacceptable, particularly the victim blaming that goes on. The article reflects that some Muslims agree with him, I note it was written by a Muslim woman. I keep looking out for decisions in the Court of Appeal to see if Shabir Ahmed's name appears. Last looked a couple of days ago. From the dates of cases that are being reported my best guess it that it could be another year or so before we hear unless some listing priority is given to it. Would that it was given some priority. You'd think they could shift some of the civil cases they hear that were not of such national importance to make room for it. I have no idea what their listing policy is mind. Veronica But,but.......whoah.....steady on now.....that's a Mooslim fella you've mentioned there. 8-) Thems the enemy! *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-02-24 4:12 PM But,but.......whoah.....steady on now.....that's a Mooslim fella you've mentioned there. 8-) Thems the enemy! *-) Incorrect the enemy as you put it are the ones who want to foist their culture on us ;-) ......... I dare say a burka would improve your looks, but I like folk to be able to see my handsome physiog :D ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Catching and proving child abuse is difficult, especially when its within a family which it usually is. Wheras catching and proving people downloading porn is easy because Technology does all the work for them (like speed cameras), and gives politicians an excuse to spy on us through our computers. Unfortunately child abusers like Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG don't even own a computer. PS: but perhaps he is off-topic for this thread because he wasn't Asian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-25 9:22 AM Catching and proving child abuse is difficult, especially when its within a family which it usually is. Wheras catching and proving people downloading porn is easy because Technology does all the work for them (like speed cameras), and gives politicians an excuse to spy on us through our computers. Unfortunately child abusers like Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG don't even own a computer. PS: but perhaps he is off-topic for this thread because he wasn't Asian It's very difficult to prove child abuse when those employed to protect us threw fear of being seen as Islamaphobic would rather carry on letting young white girls be victims of mass Muslim abuse than deal with it ... Thank the Lord for brave types like Nick Griffin who made us aware of Muslims on large scale raping under age white girls ... More Rochdale victims this week of Muslim rape I see ... Nice to see Dave's thread title coming true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-02-25 12:13 PM It's very difficult to prove child abuse when those employed to protect us threw fear of being seen as Islamaphobic would rather carry on letting young white girls be victims of mass Muslim abuse than deal with it ... Thank the Lord for brave types like Nick Griffin who made us aware of Muslims on large scale raping under age white girls ... More Rochdale victims this week of Muslim rape I see ... Nice to see Dave's thread title coming true Try and put your prejudice to one side and look at the evidence Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-25 1:34 PM antony1969 - 2018-02-25 12:13 PM It's very difficult to prove child abuse when those employed to protect us threw fear of being seen as Islamaphobic would rather carry on letting young white girls be victims of mass Muslim abuse than deal with it ... Thank the Lord for brave types like Nick Griffin who made us aware of Muslims on large scale raping under age white girls ... More Rochdale victims this week of Muslim rape I see ... Nice to see Dave's thread title coming true Try and put your prejudice to one side and look at the evidence Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” Veronica So the conclusion is Newcastle police/authorities were incompetent...... What about the police/authorities in Rochdale, Bradford, Barnsley, Huddersfield, Oxford etc etc etc *-) ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-25 1:34 PM antony1969 - 2018-02-25 12:13 PM It's very difficult to prove child abuse when those employed to protect us threw fear of being seen as Islamaphobic would rather carry on letting young white girls be victims of mass Muslim abuse than deal with it ... Thank the Lord for brave types like Nick Griffin who made us aware of Muslims on large scale raping under age white girls ... More Rochdale victims this week of Muslim rape I see ... Nice to see Dave's thread title coming true Try and put your prejudice to one side and look at the evidence Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” Veronica From the man who brings either Jimmy Savile or The Royal Family into almost every thread ... Nice one John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-02-25 8:28 AM Bulletguy - 2018-02-24 4:12 PM But,but.......whoah.....steady on now.....that's a Mooslim fella you've mentioned there. 8-) Thems the enemy! *-) Incorrect the enemy as you put it are the ones who want to foist their culture on us ;-) ......... For clarity.....Islamist fundamentalists. Big difference. Wow.....what's led to this miraculous enlightenment? You're actually agreeing with Mr Afzal and the Muslim lady who wrote the article. Wow......i'm impressed. 8-) Keep taking the medication.....it must be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-02-25 3:08 PM pelmetman - 2018-02-25 8:28 AM Bulletguy - 2018-02-24 4:12 PM But,but.......whoah.....steady on now.....that's a Mooslim fella you've mentioned there. 8-) Thems the enemy! *-) Incorrect the enemy as you put it are the ones who want to foist their culture on us ;-) ......... For clarity.....Islamist fundamentalists. Big difference. Wow.....what's led to this miraculous enlightenment? You're actually agreeing with Mr Afzal and the Muslim lady who wrote the article. Wow......i'm impressed. 8-) Keep taking the medication.....it must be working. For clarity they're all members of the same religious gang ;-) ......... The difference is our current enemies are those who would wish to foist their beliefs on us now........the difference with the moderates is they're prepared to wait until we're outnumbered :-| ......... Read your Islamic history and tell me I'm wrong Bullet >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-02-25 3:21 PM Bulletguy - 2018-02-25 3:08 PM pelmetman - 2018-02-25 8:28 AM Bulletguy - 2018-02-24 4:12 PM But,but.......whoah.....steady on now.....that's a Mooslim fella you've mentioned there. 8-) Thems the enemy! *-) Incorrect the enemy as you put it are the ones who want to foist their culture on us ;-) ......... For clarity.....Islamist fundamentalists. Big difference. Wow.....what's led to this miraculous enlightenment? You're actually agreeing with Mr Afzal and the Muslim lady who wrote the article. Wow......i'm impressed. 8-) Keep taking the medication.....it must be working. For clarity they're all members of the same religious gang ;-) ......... The difference is our current enemies are those who would wish to foist their beliefs on us now........the difference with the moderates is they're prepared to wait until we're outnumbered :-| ......... Read your Islamic history and tell me I'm wrong Bullet >:-) .......... Didn't take you long to go back to talking through your ass again........i just knew it wouldn't last long. You're spouting utter crap now back on your usual Islamophobe drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-02-25 3:58 PM pelmetman - 2018-02-25 3:21 PM Bulletguy - 2018-02-25 3:08 PM pelmetman - 2018-02-25 8:28 AM Bulletguy - 2018-02-24 4:12 PM But,but.......whoah.....steady on now.....that's a Mooslim fella you've mentioned there. 8-) Thems the enemy! *-) Incorrect the enemy as you put it are the ones who want to foist their culture on us ;-) ......... For clarity.....Islamist fundamentalists. Big difference. Wow.....what's led to this miraculous enlightenment? You're actually agreeing with Mr Afzal and the Muslim lady who wrote the article. Wow......i'm impressed. 8-) Keep taking the medication.....it must be working. For clarity they're all members of the same religious gang ;-) ......... The difference is our current enemies are those who would wish to foist their beliefs on us now........the difference with the moderates is they're prepared to wait until we're outnumbered :-| ......... Read your Islamic history and tell me I'm wrong Bullet >:-) .......... Didn't take you long to go back to talking through your ass again........i just knew it wouldn't last long. You're spouting utter crap now back on your usual Islamophobe drivel. So you haven't done your homework about your Kafirphobic chums >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-02-25 1:37 PM John52 - 2018-02-25 1:34 PM antony1969 - 2018-02-25 12:13 PM It's very difficult to prove child abuse when those employed to protect us threw fear of being seen as Islamaphobic would rather carry on letting young white girls be victims of mass Muslim abuse than deal with it ... Thank the Lord for brave types like Nick Griffin who made us aware of Muslims on large scale raping under age white girls ... More Rochdale victims this week of Muslim rape I see ... Nice to see Dave's thread title coming true Try and put your prejudice to one side and look at the evidence Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” Veronica So the conclusion is Newcastle police/authorities were incompetent...... What about the police/authorities in Rochdale, Bradford, Barnsley, Huddersfield, Oxford etc etc etc *-) ...... I've said it before Dave and I'll say it again you can read the Jay report and the Newcastle report online but from your comments I doubt that you have read either of them. You can't summarise the findings of either in one or two lines as you seem to favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-02-25 4:30 PM pelmetman - 2018-02-25 1:37 PM John52 - 2018-02-25 1:34 PM antony1969 - 2018-02-25 12:13 PM It's very difficult to prove child abuse when those employed to protect us threw fear of being seen as Islamaphobic would rather carry on letting young white girls be victims of mass Muslim abuse than deal with it ... Thank the Lord for brave types like Nick Griffin who made us aware of Muslims on large scale raping under age white girls ... More Rochdale victims this week of Muslim rape I see ... Nice to see Dave's thread title coming true Try and put your prejudice to one side and look at the evidence Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” Veronica So the conclusion is Newcastle police/authorities were incompetent...... What about the police/authorities in Rochdale, Bradford, Barnsley, Huddersfield, Oxford etc etc etc *-) ...... I've said it before Dave and I'll say it again you can read the Jay report and the Newcastle report online but from your comments I doubt that you have read either of them. You can't summarise the findings of either in one or two lines as you seem to favour. Oh but you can ;-) ........It's in their culture, and has been for over 1400 years :-| ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-02-25 4:30 PM pelmetman - 2018-02-25 1:37 PM John52 - 2018-02-25 1:34 PM antony1969 - 2018-02-25 12:13 PM It's very difficult to prove child abuse when those employed to protect us threw fear of being seen as Islamaphobic would rather carry on letting young white girls be victims of mass Muslim abuse than deal with it ... Thank the Lord for brave types like Nick Griffin who made us aware of Muslims on large scale raping under age white girls ... More Rochdale victims this week of Muslim rape I see ... Nice to see Dave's thread title coming true Try and put your prejudice to one side and look at the evidence Violet1956 - 2018-02-24 10:41 AM One conclusion to which the DM article refers is however – “In Newcastle, decisions about taking action were not influenced by lack of concern or interest, misplaced fears about political correctness or fear of being seen as racist. Neither was there any evidence of ineffective leadership or inappropriate interference by senior officials or political leaders to prevent action being taken that have been a feature of reviews elsewhere. Nor is there any evidence that any professional, individual, member of the public, politician or agency attempted to alert the authorities or complain about lack of proactivity or attention being given to addressing large scale sexual exploitation.” Veronica So the conclusion is Newcastle police/authorities were incompetent...... What about the police/authorities in Rochdale, Bradford, Barnsley, Huddersfield, Oxford etc etc etc *-) ...... I've said it before Dave and I'll say it again you can read the Jay report and the Newcastle report online but from your comments I doubt that you have read either of them. You can't summarise the findings of either in one or two lines as you seem to favour. And he continues to live up to his reputation as shown in the last couple of posts! It's a waste of time knocking when there's nobody in! He's more concerned with searching out more clickbait Daily Fail xenophobic headers. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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