ColinM50 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 We let our son borrow our Peugeot based Elddis 196, weighing at the 3,500 limit and he drives and looks after it well. He passed his test in '96. Daughter would like to borrow the M/H too and tbh, we see it as a family resource, it'll be theirs when we're gone so they may as well enjoy it now too. She passed her driving test 25/11/98 and has AM; A; B1 and B on her licence so I'm guessing she has to take another test? Anyone know for sure, and if so how do we sort this out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 When you say it weighs in at 3,500 kg can you confirm it is in the Private LIGHT Goods category? If so your daughter can drive it on her current B car licence. If it is in the Heavy taxation class then even if it weighs less than 3,500 kg she cannot. Keith. https://www.gov.uk/old-driving-licence-categories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 The entitlement of a B category on a licence first issued in 1998 is: Vehicles up to 3,500kg MAM and up to 8 passenger seats with trailer up to 750kg; trailers over 750kg if combined weight of vehicle and trailer isn’t over 3,500kgSo she's OK with a motorhome plated at 3,500 kg, including towing a trailer up to 750kg, so a luggage trailer. If she wanted to tow a heavier trailer (eg with a car on it) she would in practice have to take another test to get a B+E category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 So if your V5 says Private/light goods (plg) then she's fine. (But I'd take her for a training run, it's a big, wide vehicle and easy to misjudge corners and acceleration away from junction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinM50 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Thanks chaps, well the V5 says 3500Kg gross and Private Light Goods (PLG). So is that good or where should I confirm/check? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 That's good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec176 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Can she drive my M/H, only time will tell, good luck??????. You said it will be theirs when your gone, are you going somewhere soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinM50 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Someone PM'd me and suggested checking on .GOV website and that tells me you're all correct. " Category B - if you passed your test on or after 1 January 1997 You can drive vehicles up to 3,500kg MAM with up to 8 passenger seats (with a trailer up to 750kg). You can also tow heavier trailers if the total MAM of the vehicle and trailer isn’t more than 3,500kg." So looks like she can indeed drive it legally. Just got to find a way that "mad driver daughter in law" doesn't find out and insist on having a go. :-( Thanks all for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 ColinM50 - 2018-07-25 2:32 PM Just got to find a way that "mad driver daughter in law" doesn't find out and insist on having a go. :-( Thanks all for the advice Don't put her name on the insurance and then she can't. Also why not install a dash cam and then you can review the footage of there driving at any time you like, keep them on their toes. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigalw35 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Keithl - 2018-07-25 2:51 PM ColinM50 - 2018-07-25 2:32 PM Just got to find a way that "mad driver daughter in law" doesn't find out and insist on having a go. :-( Thanks all for the advice Don't put her name on the insurance and then she can't. Also why not install a dash cam and then you can review the footage of there driving at any time you like, keep them on their toes. Keith. Albeit that’s not a bad idea, but what you see from the dash cam IS ONLY past tense ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3526602 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Hi, There should be a plate somewhere on the van, stating it's MGW. Note, VI are only interested in the actual weight of the trailer not exceeding the manufacturer's towing limit. Your daughter could tow a 2000kg MGW trailer, provided it does not weigh more than 750kg at the time. DVLA, on the other hand, are only interested in the MGW. Your daughter could not tow an empty trailer weighing 250kg, if it is plated at 751kg MGW. Also, she cannot mix and match. She cannot drive a 3000kg MGW vehicle, towing 751kg MGW trailer. I'm not being pernickity ... my boat trailer had an unladen weight of 753kg. That may have been a deliberate ploy to stop novices towing it ... it was 30ft long. 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 . Also why not install a dash cam and then you can review the footage of there driving at any time you like, keep them on their toes. Keith. Or a cheapy tracker and give it a ring anytime an you'll see where they are and what speed they are doing. Personally I'd not lend mine to Son, Daughter or Anyone I think your making a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec176 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Problem is Colin has already let his son borrow it so the pressident has been set, damn. I once lent our caravan (long time ago) to my brother-in-law and it came back with various bits damaged but what can you say, just bite your tongue, so never again. Its like lending money never expect it back and you're not disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJay Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 ColinM50 - 2018-07-25 2:32 PM So looks like she can indeed drive it legally. Just got to find a way that "mad driver daughter in law" doesn't find out and insist on having a go. :-( Thanks all for the advice Colin put Daughter on insurance, then if DIL wants to have a go as well (and you don't want her to) Then say you can't put any more on insurance I don't know if insurers do limit the number of drivers PJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottypam Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 If either your son or daughter want to take the van abroad, check your insurance. Some restrict named drivers from driving abroad unless accompanied by the policy holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyg3nwl Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Hi ,similar question, can a learner driver use a 3.5ton motorhome accompanied of course, to practice for her driving test.. ie is there a weightsize limit of car for learners to learn on. If someone has passed theit test, what is there preventing them buying a bigish motorhome. I am thinking grandaughter off to uni, as living accomodation..cheeper than student digs.comments???? Tonyg3nwl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 You learn to drive on any vehicle within the category irrespective of size. As to using it for student accommodation, well it could, but would maybe miss out on interaction with other students if stuck out on some campsite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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