Bulletguy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:44 PM Stop deflecting. In 2016 the industry turnover was £77.5 billion.....tell me how you believe losing just part of that, our economy will not suffer and exactly how you intend to make up the shortfall loss? Come on Pelmet.......surely you can come up with something to address that point raised? Production of Unicorns? Magic money trees? Ferry companies with no ferries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 antony1969 - 2019-03-06 6:48 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:44 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:41 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:32 PM Still waiting for an answer from you on this; In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy. Each employee generating £130k for the UK economy????......... Who did those maths FFS !......Mzzz Abbott? (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Now you're really being a stupid old fool Dumb Dumb >:-) ....... Stop deflecting. In 2016 the industry turnover was £77.5 billion.....tell me how you believe losing just part of that, our economy will not suffer and exactly how you intend to make up the shortfall loss? Look out ... Old Bullets getting all angry ... When his type style changes you know his piles are irritating him ... Maybe Farty Pants can apply some Anusol relief Yeah I'd noticed (lol) ........ I wonder if Farty Pants 17 employees generate 130k a year EACH for the UK economy :D ......... That would explain the need for the EU bung >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:59 PM antony1969 - 2019-03-06 6:48 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:44 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:41 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:32 PM Still waiting for an answer from you on this; In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy. Each employee generating £130k for the UK economy????......... Who did those maths FFS !......Mzzz Abbott? (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Now you're really being a stupid old fool Dumb Dumb >:-) ....... Stop deflecting. In 2016 the industry turnover was £77.5 billion.....tell me how you believe losing just part of that, our economy will not suffer and exactly how you intend to make up the shortfall loss? Look out ... Old Bullets getting all angry ... When his type style changes you know his piles are irritating him ... Maybe Farty Pants can apply some Anusol relief Yeah I'd noticed (lol) ........ I wonder if Farty Pants 17 employees generate 130k a year EACH for the UK economy :D ......... That would explain the need for the EU bung >:-) ....... See all your posts on this thread show is how little you understand about economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 7:33 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:59 PM antony1969 - 2019-03-06 6:48 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:44 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:41 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:32 PM Still waiting for an answer from you on this; In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy. Each employee generating £130k for the UK economy????......... Who did those maths FFS !......Mzzz Abbott? (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Now you're really being a stupid old fool Dumb Dumb >:-) ....... Stop deflecting. In 2016 the industry turnover was £77.5 billion.....tell me how you believe losing just part of that, our economy will not suffer and exactly how you intend to make up the shortfall loss? Look out ... Old Bullets getting all angry ... When his type style changes you know his piles are irritating him ... Maybe Farty Pants can apply some Anusol relief Yeah I'd noticed (lol) ........ I wonder if Farty Pants 17 employees generate 130k a year EACH for the UK economy :D ......... That would explain the need for the EU bung >:-) ....... See all your posts on this thread show is how little you understand about economics. So are you paying your 17 employees £130k EACH? ;-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:41 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:32 PM Still waiting for an answer from you on this; In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy. Each employee generating £130k for the UK economy????......... Who did those maths FFS !......Mzzz Abbott? (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Now you're really being a stupid old fool Dumb Dumb >:-) ....... The average GDP per employee in 2010 was just under £76,000 per year, according to the World Bank. The motor industry is one of the most efficient and capital intensive parts of British industry, so less then double the national average (even without allowing for eight years of growth in the meantime) doesn't seem outlandish to me. What's not to believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:41 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:32 PM Still waiting for an answer from you on this; In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy. Each employee generating £130k for the UK economy????......... Who did those maths FFS !......Mzzz Abbott? (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Now you're really being a stupid old fool Dumb Dumb >:-) ....... The average GDP per employee in 2010 was just under £76,000 per year, according to the World Bank. The motor industry is one of the most efficient and capital intensive parts of British industry, so less then double the national average (even without allowing for eight years of growth in the meantime) doesn't seem outlandish to me. What's not to believe? Oh the average ;-) .........Including the umpteen million earned by those in charge......and the peanuts by those at the bottom (lol) ........ Dontcha just love statistics ;-) ...........Coz you can make any old sh*t add up >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:03 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:41 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:32 PM Still waiting for an answer from you on this; In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy. Each employee generating £130k for the UK economy????......... Who did those maths FFS !......Mzzz Abbott? (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Now you're really being a stupid old fool Dumb Dumb >:-) ....... The average GDP per employee in 2010 was just under £76,000 per year, according to the World Bank. The motor industry is one of the most efficient and capital intensive parts of British industry, so less then double the national average (even without allowing for eight years of growth in the meantime) doesn't seem outlandish to me. What's not to believe? Oh the average ;-) .........Including the umpteen million earned by those in charge......and the peanuts by those at the bottom (lol) ........ Dontcha just love statistics ;-) ...........Coz you can make any old sh*t add up >:-) ........ See you're showing your ignorance again, go and look up the difference of average GDP per employee and average pay per employee. Quick clue - they're a little bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:03 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 6:41 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 6:32 PM Still waiting for an answer from you on this; In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy. Each employee generating £130k for the UK economy????......... Who did those maths FFS !......Mzzz Abbott? (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Now you're really being a stupid old fool Dumb Dumb >:-) ....... The average GDP per employee in 2010 was just under £76,000 per year, according to the World Bank. The motor industry is one of the most efficient and capital intensive parts of British industry, so less then double the national average (even without allowing for eight years of growth in the meantime) doesn't seem outlandish to me. What's not to believe? Oh the average ;-) .........Including the umpteen million earned by those in charge......and the peanuts by those at the bottom (lol) ........ Dontcha just love statistics ;-) ...........Coz you can make any old sh*t add up >:-) ........ Well, the figure for the motor industry will also be an average, so the comparison should be like for like, or very close. What's your beef against £130k per employee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ So you're attempting to dispute what the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders the officially recognised trade association for the United Kingdom motor industry, has said? Wow......you're well out of your depth Pelmetplonker. *-) UK automotive manufacturers turn over £77.5 billion in 2016 – the highest on record. Workforce productivity at a record high, with 11.8 vehicles produced per employee UK Automotive’s 18th annual Sustainability Report reveals the manufacturing sector turned over a record £77.5 billion in 2016, UK car and commercial vehicle production and new vehicle registration volumes grew to record levels in 2016, up 8.9% and 0.2% respectively. Meanwhile, employment in manufacturing remained stable at 169,000 jobs, resulting in productivity reaching a record high of 11.8 vehicles produced for each person employed in the industry. The average manufacturing worker generated more than £130,000 for the British economy, up 9.8% on 2015. The number of livelihoods dependent on the sector as a whole stood at 814,000 across manufacturing, retail, distribution and repair services. The record turnover by UK motor manufacturing represents a 9.0% increase on 2015, with the additional value added to the UK economy rising 7.3% to £21.5 billion. The industry also upped its investment in innovation, with R&D spend reaching £2.75 billion last year, up from £2.5 billion in 2015. https://www.smmt.co.uk/2017/06/uk-automotive-achieves-record-turnover-77-5-billion-marking-seventh-consecutive-year-growth/ Now........you still haven't given any suggestions as how you believe losing just part of that, our economy will not suffer and exactly how you intend to make up the shortfall loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 9:06 PM The average manufacturing worker generated more than £130,000 for the British economy, up 9.8% on 2015. The number of livelihoods dependent on the sector as a whole stood at 814,000 across manufacturing, retail, distribution and repair services. 130k......Generated for the economy?.......Really? *-) .......... Using that argument those 4000 EU criminals in our prisons are prolly generating more money for the UK economy >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. So how many of your 17 employees are on a £130k a year? >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Did you not read this bit? ;-) ......... "Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. " See I know a bullsh*tter when I see one >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:46 PM Bulletguy - 2019-03-06 9:06 PM The average manufacturing worker generated more than £130,000 for the British economy, up 9.8% on 2015. The number of livelihoods dependent on the sector as a whole stood at 814,000 across manufacturing, retail, distribution and repair services. 130k......Generated for the economy?.......Really? *-) .......... Using that argument those 4000 EU criminals in our prisons are prolly generating more money for the UK economy >:-) ........ Oh FGS Pelmethead you're just being purposely obtuse and disingenuous now with silly deflections and sidetracking. *-) Still no suggestions as how you believe losing just part of that £21.5 billion to UK economy from UK automotive industry due to Brexit, our economy will not suffer, and exactly how you intend to make up the loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:57 PM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Did you not read this bit? ;-) ......... "Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. " See I know a bullsh*tter when I see one >:-) ........ For gods sake go and look up what GDP, GDP per capita and GDP per active employee. It's not the same as average pay. Which is what you, in your ignorance, are confusing it with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 10:04 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:57 PM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Did you not read this bit? ;-) ......... "Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. " See I know a bullsh*tter when I see one >:-) ........ For gods sake go and look up what GDP, GDP per capita and GDP per active employee. It's not the same as average pay. Which is what you, in your ignorance, are confusing it with. I know exactly what the difference is ;-) ............ I'm flagging up that your mate Dumb Dumb is trying to suggest that £130k is the average wage for UK car workers by making statements like this >:-) ...... "In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy" When the truth is the average 2017 car workers wage is less than £40k ..........Which is less than I was earning as a "Curtain Muncher" in the 90's 8-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:15 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 10:04 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:57 PM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Did you not read this bit? ;-) ......... "Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. " See I know a bullsh*tter when I see one >:-) ........ For gods sake go and look up what GDP, GDP per capita and GDP per active employee. It's not the same as average pay. Which is what you, in your ignorance, are confusing it with. I know exactly what the difference is ;-) ............ I'm flagging up that your mate Dumb Dumb is trying to suggest that £130k is the average wage for UK car workers by making statements like this >:-) ...... "In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy" When the truth is the average 2017 car workers wage is less than £40k ..........Which is less than I was earning as a "Curtain Muncher" in the 90's 8-) .......... You have just proved yourself even more stupid. "each generating more than £130k to the local economy", it does NOT say they earned £130k, now go and look up GDP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-07 8:30 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:15 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 10:04 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:57 PM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Did you not read this bit? ;-) ......... "Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. " See I know a bullsh*tter when I see one >:-) ........ For gods sake go and look up what GDP, GDP per capita and GDP per active employee. It's not the same as average pay. Which is what you, in your ignorance, are confusing it with. I know exactly what the difference is ;-) ............ I'm flagging up that your mate Dumb Dumb is trying to suggest that £130k is the average wage for UK car workers by making statements like this >:-) ...... "In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy" When the truth is the average 2017 car workers wage is less than £40k ..........Which is less than I was earning as a "Curtain Muncher" in the 90's 8-) .......... You have just proved yourself even more stupid. "each generating more than £130k to the local economy", it does NOT say they earned £130k, now go and look up GDP. So using that same logic ;-) .......... The 4000 EU criminals in our jails are EACH generating at least £60k a year for the local economy >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:36 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-07 8:30 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:15 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 10:04 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:57 PM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Did you not read this bit? ;-) ......... "Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. " See I know a bullsh*tter when I see one >:-) ........ For gods sake go and look up what GDP, GDP per capita and GDP per active employee. It's not the same as average pay. Which is what you, in your ignorance, are confusing it with. I know exactly what the difference is ;-) ............ I'm flagging up that your mate Dumb Dumb is trying to suggest that £130k is the average wage for UK car workers by making statements like this >:-) ...... "In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy" When the truth is the average 2017 car workers wage is less than £40k ..........Which is less than I was earning as a "Curtain Muncher" in the 90's 8-) .......... You have just proved yourself even more stupid. "each generating more than £130k to the local economy", it does NOT say they earned £130k, now go and look up GDP. So using that same logic ;-) .......... The 4000 EU criminals in our jails are EACH generating at least £60k a year for the local economy >:-) ......... I'll take your glib response as a realisation of how stupid you have been. And that you finally understand a little bit of what the difference is between GDP and earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-07 8:41 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:36 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-07 8:30 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:15 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 10:04 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:57 PM Fast Pat - 2019-03-06 9:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:52 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-06 8:23 PM What's your beef against £130k per employee? Because its a load of boll*cks *-) ............ UK Annual production (2015): 1.5 million Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800) GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800) The average annual wage for a UK production worker on unionised sites is £30,250, although there’s no indication as to who – Honda, JLR, Nissan, Toyota or Vauxhall – pays the highest salaries. A JLR spokeswoman hinted it pays better than any other UK-based firm, and went further still by claiming its car workers are among the highest paid in Europe – but it flatly refused to go into details. Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/98986/the-global-car-manufacturing-wage-gap-what-do-car-factory-workers-earn The GDP you've quoted is per capita - divided by the whole population including oxygen thieves like yourself, not per active worker. See another thing you know nothing about. Did you not read this bit? ;-) ......... "Several ‘production operator’ jobs were recently up for grabs at JLR, ranging from £13,897 to £39,100. The SMMT also told us the average rate is 22.30 Euros (£19.07) per hour in the UK. Assuming a 40-hour week, this equates to around £39,800 annually. " See I know a bullsh*tter when I see one >:-) ........ For gods sake go and look up what GDP, GDP per capita and GDP per active employee. It's not the same as average pay. Which is what you, in your ignorance, are confusing it with. I know exactly what the difference is ;-) ............ I'm flagging up that your mate Dumb Dumb is trying to suggest that £130k is the average wage for UK car workers by making statements like this >:-) ...... "In 2016 the automotive industry turnover was £77.5 billion with 814,000 employees each generating more than £130k to the UK economy" When the truth is the average 2017 car workers wage is less than £40k ..........Which is less than I was earning as a "Curtain Muncher" in the 90's 8-) .......... You have just proved yourself even more stupid. "each generating more than £130k to the local economy", it does NOT say they earned £130k, now go and look up GDP. So using that same logic ;-) .......... The 4000 EU criminals in our jails are EACH generating at least £60k a year for the local economy >:-) ......... I'll take your glib response as a realisation of how stupid you have been. And that you finally understand a little bit of what the difference is between GDP and earnings. I'll take it my analogy is correct? :D ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:52 AM I'll take it my analogy is correct? :D ........... "I don't understand how anything works, but I have very strong opinions about it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-07 1:12 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:52 AM I'll take it my analogy is correct? :D ........... "I don't understand how anything works, but I have very strong opinions about it!" The first honest thing youve said ... Well done ... At least you know your limits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 antony1969 - 2019-03-07 1:17 PM Fast Pat - 2019-03-07 1:12 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-07 8:52 AM I'll take it my analogy is correct? :D ........... "I don't understand how anything works, but I have very strong opinions about it!" The first honest thing youve said ... Well done ... At least you know your limits Another one who doesn't understand basic comprehension - is English a second language to you Anthhhhhhhhhhhhhony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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