Barryd999 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-10-01 9:08 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-30 5:27 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-30 1:34 PM John52 - 2019-09-30 10:23 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-30 9:43 AM Judging by the applause and cheering Moggy & Co got at the conference B-) ......... Yes of course because BoJo's lies and false promises are their only hope of getting elected >:-) There's nothing false about his promises ;-) .......... He's trying his best to honour the vote of 17.4 million voters B-) .......... If he fails WE KNOW WHO TO BLAME >:-( .......... It wont be Boris >:-) .......... of course he and the Brexiteers will be to blame. He and the rest of them promised us the easiest deal in history with all the benefits we have now. Nobody has tried to stop them giving us that they just lied about it as it was never going to happen. Thats why we have had to pass a law now asking for an extension as its their lies that have got us into this mess. Maybe some of them really believed we would get a great deal but I dont think so. No deal was the plan all along. So yes they will take the blame along with those who are still supporting this bollox The reason the EU has played hardball is because the treasonous Loser Brigade gave them our bat *-) ....... Hopefully you have ensured they score a Own Goal with a No Deal Brexit >:-) ......... Bollox! Another one with selective memory. We told you back in 2016 when you were saying they need us more than we need them and we hold all the cards etc etc that it wasnt the case and the EU would protect its members and single market above all else. You gambled and lost, its as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-10-01 9:50 AM pelmetman - 2019-10-01 9:08 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-30 5:27 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-30 1:34 PM John52 - 2019-09-30 10:23 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-30 9:43 AM Judging by the applause and cheering Moggy & Co got at the conference B-) ......... Yes of course because BoJo's lies and false promises are their only hope of getting elected >:-) There's nothing false about his promises ;-) .......... He's trying his best to honour the vote of 17.4 million voters B-) .......... If he fails WE KNOW WHO TO BLAME >:-( .......... It wont be Boris >:-) .......... of course he and the Brexiteers will be to blame. He and the rest of them promised us the easiest deal in history with all the benefits we have now. Nobody has tried to stop them giving us that they just lied about it as it was never going to happen. Thats why we have had to pass a law now asking for an extension as its their lies that have got us into this mess. Maybe some of them really believed we would get a great deal but I dont think so. No deal was the plan all along. So yes they will take the blame along with those who are still supporting this bollox The reason the EU has played hardball is because the treasonous Loser Brigade gave them our bat *-) ....... Hopefully you have ensured they score a Own Goal with a No Deal Brexit >:-) ......... Bollox! Another one with selective memory. We told you back in 2016 when you were saying they need us more than we need them and we hold all the cards etc etc that it wasnt the case and the EU would protect its members and single market above all else. You gambled and lost, its as simple as that. We haven't lost ;-) ........ We just may end up with a sh*t deal because of the antics of the Loser Brigade ;-) ........ Cant say I'm bothered if you want to carry on paying through the nose for nothing :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 No-deal Brexit / WTO tariffs paid by importers of UK exports: Beef 84% Cheese 57% Wheat 53% Butter 48% Lamb 48% Pork 30% Potatoes 11.5% Fish 9.6% Current EU membership tariffs: Beef 0% Cheese 0% Wheat 0% Butter 0% Lamb 0% Pork 0% Potatoes 0% Fish 0% Spot the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-10-01 12:33 PM No-deal Brexit / WTO tariffs paid by importers of UK exports: Beef 84% Cheese 57% Wheat 53% Butter 48% Lamb 48% Pork 30% Potatoes 11.5% Fish 9.6% Current EU membership tariffs: Beef 0% Cheese 0% Wheat 0% Butter 0% Lamb 0% Pork 0% Potatoes 0% Fish 0% Spot the problem. It's hardly sensible to export meat and import meat is it? ;-) ........ We should only be importing what we cant produce :-| ....... Brexit will help save the planet B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-10-01 1:53 PM Fast Pat - 2019-10-01 12:33 PM No-deal Brexit / WTO tariffs paid by importers of UK exports: Beef 84% Cheese 57% Wheat 53% Butter 48% Lamb 48% Pork 30% Potatoes 11.5% Fish 9.6% Current EU membership tariffs: Beef 0% Cheese 0% Wheat 0% Butter 0% Lamb 0% Pork 0% Potatoes 0% Fish 0% Spot the problem. It's hardly sensible to export meat and import meat is it? ;-) ........ We should only be importing what we cant produce :-| ....... Brexit will help save the planet B-) ......... Those fishermen and farmers are going to be a bit p*ssed off when they can't sell their products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-10-01 1:59 PM pelmetman - 2019-10-01 1:53 PM Fast Pat - 2019-10-01 12:33 PM No-deal Brexit / WTO tariffs paid by importers of UK exports: Beef 84% Cheese 57% Wheat 53% Butter 48% Lamb 48% Pork 30% Potatoes 11.5% Fish 9.6% Current EU membership tariffs: Beef 0% Cheese 0% Wheat 0% Butter 0% Lamb 0% Pork 0% Potatoes 0% Fish 0% Spot the problem. It's hardly sensible to export meat and import meat is it? ;-) ........ We should only be importing what we cant produce :-| ....... Brexit will help save the planet B-) ......... Those fishermen and farmers are going to be a bit p*ssed off when they can't sell their products. Seeing as we are not self sufficient in any of the food we produce ;-) ......... I suspect it's those in the EU who wish to flog us their surpluses that will be p*ssed off when they find out we can buy it cheaper elsewhere >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCM Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 So, seems Nissan are on their way out of the UK, I’m sure the 61% of the Sunderland voters who voted for Brexit are pleased with themselves, Turkeys voting for Xmas??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 ChrisCM - 2019-10-01 2:29 PM So, seems Nissan are on their way out of the UK, I’m sure the 61% of the Sunderland voters who voted for Brexit are pleased with themselves, Turkeys voting for Xmas??? Their fate was sealed as soon as the EU did a FTA with Japan :-| ......... The EU did the FTA with Japan so Germany could flog them more BMW's, Merc's, VW's, Audi's, Porsche etc etc *-) ....... Why else did Honda close their factory in Turkey? ;-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-10-01 11:43 AM Barryd999 - 2019-10-01 9:50 AM pelmetman - 2019-10-01 9:08 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-30 5:27 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-30 1:34 PM John52 - 2019-09-30 10:23 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-30 9:43 AM Judging by the applause and cheering Moggy & Co got at the conference B-) ......... Yes of course because BoJo's lies and false promises are their only hope of getting elected >:-) There's nothing false about his promises ;-) .......... He's trying his best to honour the vote of 17.4 million voters B-) .......... If he fails WE KNOW WHO TO BLAME >:-( .......... It wont be Boris >:-) .......... of course he and the Brexiteers will be to blame. He and the rest of them promised us the easiest deal in history with all the benefits we have now. Nobody has tried to stop them giving us that they just lied about it as it was never going to happen. Thats why we have had to pass a law now asking for an extension as its their lies that have got us into this mess. Maybe some of them really believed we would get a great deal but I dont think so. No deal was the plan all along. So yes they will take the blame along with those who are still supporting this bollox The reason the EU has played hardball is because the treasonous Loser Brigade gave them our bat *-) ....... Hopefully you have ensured they score a Own Goal with a No Deal Brexit >:-) ......... Bollox! Another one with selective memory. We told you back in 2016 when you were saying they need us more than we need them and we hold all the cards etc etc that it wasnt the case and the EU would protect its members and single market above all else. You gambled and lost, its as simple as that. We haven't lost ;-) ........ We just may end up with a sh*t deal because of the antics of the Loser Brigade ;-) ........ Cant say I'm bothered if you want to carry on paying through the nose for nothing :D .......... You were warned by the Remainers on here that only a s**t deal was likely to be on the table Dave and now when it comes to pass that we were right you seek to blame us for the current impasse. You didn’t listen and that’s not our fault. You say our membership of the EU was worth nothing. Let’s see how non- membership proves that to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 ChrisCM - 2019-10-01 2:29 PM So, seems Nissan are on their way out of the UK, I’m sure the 61% of the Sunderland voters who voted for Brexit are pleased with themselves, Turkeys voting for Xmas??? Totally bonkers. Frictionless trade and EU membership has enabled the Nissan factory in Sunderland to become the biggest factory in the history of the UK car industry, exporting more than half of its production to the EU. Trouble is 61% may have voted out but how many are really aware of just what that is going to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 ChrisCM - 2019-10-01 2:29 PM So, seems Nissan are on their way out of the UK, I’m sure the 61% of the Sunderland voters who voted for Brexit are pleased with themselves, Turkeys voting for Xmas??? It's the Minford model.....Brexiteers wonder economist who said in relation to the car industry, "you're going to have to run it down....just like WE did with the coal and steel industry". This is admitting government intentionally shut down these industries. More will go, it makes no sense to stay in a country which sacrificed it's FTA's and made JIT production impossible. That's 7000 more employees to add to the bulging dole queue....many of whom will undoubtedly lose their homes. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-agrees-with-leading-brexit-economist/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Violet1956 - 2019-10-01 3:23 PM pelmetman - 2019-10-01 11:43 AM Barryd999 - 2019-10-01 9:50 AM Bollox! Another one with selective memory. We told you back in 2016 when you were saying they need us more than we need them and we hold all the cards etc etc that it wasnt the case and the EU would protect its members and single market above all else. You gambled and lost, its as simple as that. We haven't lost ;-) ........ We just may end up with a sh*t deal because of the antics of the Loser Brigade ;-) ........ Cant say I'm bothered if you want to carry on paying through the nose for nothing :D .......... You were warned by the Remainers on here that only a s**t deal was likely to be on the table Dave and now when it comes to pass that we were right you seek to blame us for the current impasse. You didn’t listen and that’s not our fault. You say our membership of the EU was worth nothing. Let’s see how non- membership proves that to be true. They've never taken accountability for their actions though and shown themselves to be utterly irresponsible. People have got sick of their constant blame shifting and excuses. Pelmet type Brexiteers are a lost cause though....they swallowed the Kool-Aid, joined the cult and learned to parrot all the batty Brexit mantras Cummings has taught them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-10-01 3:40 PM ChrisCM - 2019-10-01 2:29 PM So, seems Nissan are on their way out of the UK, I’m sure the 61% of the Sunderland voters who voted for Brexit are pleased with themselves, Turkeys voting for Xmas??? Totally bonkers. Frictionless trade and EU membership has enabled the Nissan factory in Sunderland to become the biggest factory in the history of the UK car industry, exporting more than half of its production to the EU. Trouble is 61% may have voted out but how many are really aware of just what that is going to mean? One thing they were told was "we're taking back control". *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-10-01 9:33 AM You forget we're the worlds 5th biggest economy ;-) ............ There is a saying in business Turnover is Vanity, Profit is Sanity The size and growth of the economy is the turnover, not the profit made on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-10-01 1:53 P It's hardly sensible to export meat and import meat is it? ;-) ......... Not if everybody wants to eat the same meat all the time, and pay high prices for low quality as there is no competition. But if you want to continue to enjoy the range and quality and value of whats on offer today, which has never been better, you need free trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-10-01 9:33 AM they'll give us the choice of a sh*t deal or staying in the EU sh*t ;-) ............ I'd still chose a sh*t deal >:-) .......... Thats because you haven't a clue whats in the deal (lol) UK would be leaving in name only, effectively still bound by the EU, but having no seat at the table so no longer any say in the decision process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 More entertainment on the way. :-D https://www.scotsman.com/news/crime/scottish-court-to-decide-whether-boris-johnson-can-be-jailed-over-no-deal-brexit-1-5015160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Boris Johnson’s government has awarded £100,000 of taxpayers’ money to a company that donated £25,000 to his leadership campaign in order to help it “prepare for Brexit” — despite the firm having already declared itself “Brexit ready”. Bristol port will receive the six-figure payment to “help their preparations for Brexit on 31 October”, the Department for Transport told BuzzFeed News. It is one of 16 ports across the UK that has received a share of a £10 million funding pot, and the only one in the west of England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-10-01 9:36 PM Boris Johnson’s government has awarded £100,000 of taxpayers’ money to a company that donated £25,000 to his leadership campaign in order to help it “prepare for Brexit” — despite the firm having already declared itself “Brexit ready”. Bristol port will receive the six-figure payment to “help their preparations for Brexit on 31 October”, the Department for Transport told BuzzFeed News. It is one of 16 ports across the UK that has received a share of a £10 million funding pot, and the only one in the west of England. He's also spaffing millions of taxpayers money on bloody Brexit tv propaganda adverts which needs putting a stop to. Banks or Smugg can pay for that junk if thats what they want. As for ports, Dover Port CEO has said 'no deal' would see that port lose £1 billion a week in trade after transport minister, George Freeman, confirmed the government’s “planning assumption” was that no-deal disruption would roughly halve the traffic – a fall of 40%-60% – able to pass through Britain’s main trading link for three months. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/01/dover-could-lose-1bn-of-trade-a-week-with-no-deal-brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 History is replete with bullies who seemed formidable for a time only to crash by attempting too much or by underestimating the quiet courage of honourable women and men https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/07/30/on-tyranny-populism-and-how-best-to-respond-today?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/ontyrannypopulismandhowbesttorespondtodayopenfuture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-10-02 8:02 AM History is replete with bullies who seemed formidable for a time only to crash by attempting too much or by underestimating the quiet courage of honourable women and men https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/07/30/on-tyranny-populism-and-how-best-to-respond-today?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/ontyrannypopulismandhowbesttorespondtodayopenfuture Oh I see now. You think that we a Nazis because we voted for Brexit. How quaint. Perhaps if the French had not been so insistent on crippling the German people in the surrender terms in 1919, Hitler (and therefore WW2) may never have happened. The Remainers references to peace in Europe brought about by the EU would not have been necessary either. Never mind, in case we ever meet, I had better look presentable. I will polish my Jackboots, put fresh creases in my black uniform and trim my little moustache. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-10-02 8:02 AM History is replete with bullies who seemed formidable for a time only to crash by attempting too much or by underestimating the quiet courage of honourable women and men https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/07/30/on-tyranny-populism-and-how-best-to-respond-today?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/ontyrannypopulismandhowbesttorespondtodayopenfuture You and they conveniently forget every dictator in recent history was voted in by Socialists >:-) ....... So the best way to respond is to ban Socialists from voting :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 John52 - 2019-10-01 5:07 PM pelmetman - 2019-10-01 1:53 P It's hardly sensible to export meat and import meat is it? ;-) ......... Not if everybody wants to eat the same meat all the time, and pay high prices for low quality as there is no competition. But if you want to continue to enjoy the range and quality and value of whats on offer today, which has never been better, you need free trade. Major meat exporters........ Lamb......................................Is New Zealand in the EU?......... Beef........................................Is Argentina in the EU?...... Beef,Pork and Chicken...........Is the USA in the EU?........ We're self sufficient in Turkeys/Remoaners >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 747 - 2019-10-02 9:02 AM Oh I see now. You think that we a Nazis because we voted for Brexit. How quaint. Never mind, in case we ever meet, I had better look presentable. I will polish my Jackboots, put fresh creases in my black uniform and trim my little moustache. :D I'm sure you will feel very comfortable under a fascist regime. After all you were happy to ignore the human right abuses of the apartheid regimes in SA and take your thirty pieces of silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 There is nothing worse than a sanctimonious human being. I suppose it's pointless telling you about the African countries run by Black Communists where I worked, what I witnessed and where I had friends murdered. No, you carry on in your blinkered little world. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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