Birdbrain Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-11-21 5:18 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-21 11:29 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 4:29 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-20 4:04 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 3:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-20 3:06 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 2:35 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-20 9:49 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 6:35 AM Barryd999 - 2019-11-19 11:16 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-19 7:40 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-19 6:23 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-19 6:13 PM Violet1956 - 2019-11-19 5:39 PM I find the callousness displayed towards innocent children by some contributors to this thread quite shocking. Nothing i wouldn't expect from the usual suspects. Its not just here sadly. Its everywhere. What happened to the selfless society where we actually cared for others? The atmosphere in the UK is toxic. Its a toxic UK because of the likes of you and the hate squad princess ... Youve shown that time and again over these last few years ... Reap what you sow You really do believe that dont you? Can you not see that people like me spoke out against the hate and bile that this dreadful referendum has unleashed because we want to put a lid on it and stop the country going down a path of self destruction but also a path of selfishness and extremism? Why do you think Im so bothered about it all? As you are fond of telling me I live in a bubble, Nice place in the countryside, nothing will change here, plenty of money, dont need to work why do I give a toss if the country wants to tear itself apart and end up full of hate and debt? Its because I care about other people thats why. I care about the region I grew up in becoming a desolate waste land, I care about decades of progress in tackling racism being thrown down the toilet overnight and it now being ok to call polish people vermin and beat up foreigners. Nah. The toxicity has come from the very small collection of selfish but very powerful individuals on a global scale that are engineering this not me. I just saw through it. You dont care about people anymore or any less than I do or anyone else does on this forum Barry so less of the high and mighty guff ... You care about racism ??? What utter tosh ... You care about racism towards Polish folk because it helps you to try to prove that Brexit=Racism yet you totally ignore all other forms of racism ... The toxic guff as far as I am concerned is due to the likes of you and the hate squad who havent ever and will never accept the referendum result or prolly any other political result going forward that doesnt go their way ... You see it on here time and again "racist , bigot , homophobe , Islamaphobe etc etc" spewed out by em in an attempt to shut folk down but when challenged time and again to prove those insults they and you provide absolutely nothing , now if thats not toxic I dont know what is ... Your a hypocrite fella you want to stop the hate yet you want to pull Brexit which you'd do this morning if you could and you think that would stop the hate ??? ... As normal your in fantasy land Dont think you will find any posts from me shouting insults like that at anyone on here, least not serious ones. We are never going to agree on this but I fail to see how remainers campaigning to remain led to a serious rise in hate crime what seems to me like a much more hostile environment towards just about anyone who is foreign. Yes I want to stop Brexit. So what? Democracy didnt end on June 24th 2016. That has nothing to do with the rise in hate and bile in this country. I guess its always been there just simmering under the surface. Some though clearly saw Brexit as a licence to unleash it all again. Who has said Remainers campaigning to remain have led to a serious rise in hate crime ??? ... You do know hate crime covers many , many things dont ya so please do tell how you know just how many of those reported hate crimes are down to Brexit and Brexiteers ??? ... You do know also that hate crime prosecutions went down after Brexit and that the biggest rise in hate crimes is the one that the party and leader you seem to defend have normalised anti-Semitism ... We know you want to stop Brexit Barry unfortunately we've had to endure your utter tosh posts for years ... Hypocrite You tried to make out the toxic environment and rise in racism was because remainers didn't just crawl away and shut the fcuk up. b*****ks. It's because some people are just racist hateful feckers and they saw Brexit as a way of unleashing their hateful bile. Naff all to do with remainers. I never mentioned remainers Barry , thats utter guff ... I said folk like you and others on here that spew vile insults with nothing to back them up ... Keep it real princess ... Youve claimed Brexit has allowed race hate so please tell me out of those hate crimes how many were due to Brexit ??? For you that should be a simple question to answer Folk like me on here? How many are Brexiteers then? We knew what you meant. A lot of the abuse and hate crime is well documented and oddly spiked straight after the referendum. Of course it was due to Brexit. Can't exactly have been down to remainers then either can it not that there is any excuse ever for some of the stuff we have seen since 2016. How many are blokes ??? How many are white ??? How many are gay ??? Whats Remainers got to do with it ??? ... If you need me to give it a tag then here folk like you the name callers , the whingers ... Youve shown nothing to prove how much of the hate crime surge was down to Brexiteers and Brexit and it simply doesnt stack up when the prosecution numbers were lower ??? ... Go figure ... Your concern might be better placed with our lovely Jewish communities who are having to deal with anti-Semitism So in July 2016 which just happens to have been just after the referendum we didnt see 'No more Polish Vermin' cards being distributed a family home targeted in a racist fire attack and a Polish cultural hub emblazoned with graffiti. I imagined the stories of abuse of foreigners on buses being told they have to go home now? Were the two Norwegian women I met lying when they told me first hand face to face that they had been threatened and told to pack their bags and "fcuk off home" after the referendum? Didn't one MP actually get murdered? None of that anything to do with Brexit then? https://fullfact.org/crime/hate-crime-and-eu-referendum/ Barry youve shown nothing , zip , knack all to prove what you claim ... Facts not fiction princess and of course you met two abused Norwegians ... If all these EU types are so abused and bothered by Brexit like you claim why are so many Polish shops opening in Huddersfield ??? Who they catering for princess ??? ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit and anti-Semitism is the fastest growing hate crime , both those facts dont suit your agenda though No,the fastest growing crime is you calling every Tom,Dick & Harry anti-Semitic for anything or everything. Booring Show it princess or as normal your contributions are worth nowt ??? ... Man up for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-11-21 5:57 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-21 11:29 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 4:29 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-20 4:04 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 3:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-20 3:06 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 2:35 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-20 9:49 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-20 6:35 AM Barryd999 - 2019-11-19 11:16 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-19 7:40 PM Barryd999 - 2019-11-19 6:23 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-19 6:13 PM Violet1956 - 2019-11-19 5:39 PM I find the callousness displayed towards innocent children by some contributors to this thread quite shocking. Nothing i wouldn't expect from the usual suspects. Its not just here sadly. Its everywhere. What happened to the selfless society where we actually cared for others? The atmosphere in the UK is toxic. Its a toxic UK because of the likes of you and the hate squad princess ... Youve shown that time and again over these last few years ... Reap what you sow You really do believe that dont you? Can you not see that people like me spoke out against the hate and bile that this dreadful referendum has unleashed because we want to put a lid on it and stop the country going down a path of self destruction but also a path of selfishness and extremism? Why do you think Im so bothered about it all? As you are fond of telling me I live in a bubble, Nice place in the countryside, nothing will change here, plenty of money, dont need to work why do I give a toss if the country wants to tear itself apart and end up full of hate and debt? Its because I care about other people thats why. I care about the region I grew up in becoming a desolate waste land, I care about decades of progress in tackling racism being thrown down the toilet overnight and it now being ok to call polish people vermin and beat up foreigners. Nah. The toxicity has come from the very small collection of selfish but very powerful individuals on a global scale that are engineering this not me. I just saw through it. You dont care about people anymore or any less than I do or anyone else does on this forum Barry so less of the high and mighty guff ... You care about racism ??? What utter tosh ... You care about racism towards Polish folk because it helps you to try to prove that Brexit=Racism yet you totally ignore all other forms of racism ... The toxic guff as far as I am concerned is due to the likes of you and the hate squad who havent ever and will never accept the referendum result or prolly any other political result going forward that doesnt go their way ... You see it on here time and again "racist , bigot , homophobe , Islamaphobe etc etc" spewed out by em in an attempt to shut folk down but when challenged time and again to prove those insults they and you provide absolutely nothing , now if thats not toxic I dont know what is ... Your a hypocrite fella you want to stop the hate yet you want to pull Brexit which you'd do this morning if you could and you think that would stop the hate ??? ... As normal your in fantasy land Dont think you will find any posts from me shouting insults like that at anyone on here, least not serious ones. We are never going to agree on this but I fail to see how remainers campaigning to remain led to a serious rise in hate crime what seems to me like a much more hostile environment towards just about anyone who is foreign. Yes I want to stop Brexit. So what? Democracy didnt end on June 24th 2016. That has nothing to do with the rise in hate and bile in this country. I guess its always been there just simmering under the surface. Some though clearly saw Brexit as a licence to unleash it all again. Who has said Remainers campaigning to remain have led to a serious rise in hate crime ??? ... You do know hate crime covers many , many things dont ya so please do tell how you know just how many of those reported hate crimes are down to Brexit and Brexiteers ??? ... You do know also that hate crime prosecutions went down after Brexit and that the biggest rise in hate crimes is the one that the party and leader you seem to defend have normalised anti-Semitism ... We know you want to stop Brexit Barry unfortunately we've had to endure your utter tosh posts for years ... Hypocrite You tried to make out the toxic environment and rise in racism was because remainers didn't just crawl away and shut the fcuk up. b*****ks. It's because some people are just racist hateful feckers and they saw Brexit as a way of unleashing their hateful bile. Naff all to do with remainers. I never mentioned remainers Barry , thats utter guff ... I said folk like you and others on here that spew vile insults with nothing to back them up ... Keep it real princess ... Youve claimed Brexit has allowed race hate so please tell me out of those hate crimes how many were due to Brexit ??? For you that should be a simple question to answer Folk like me on here? How many are Brexiteers then? We knew what you meant. A lot of the abuse and hate crime is well documented and oddly spiked straight after the referendum. Of course it was due to Brexit. Can't exactly have been down to remainers then either can it not that there is any excuse ever for some of the stuff we have seen since 2016. How many are blokes ??? How many are white ??? How many are gay ??? Whats Remainers got to do with it ??? ... If you need me to give it a tag then here folk like you the name callers , the whingers ... Youve shown nothing to prove how much of the hate crime surge was down to Brexiteers and Brexit and it simply doesnt stack up when the prosecution numbers were lower ??? ... Go figure ... Your concern might be better placed with our lovely Jewish communities who are having to deal with anti-Semitism So in July 2016 which just happens to have been just after the referendum we didnt see 'No more Polish Vermin' cards being distributed a family home targeted in a racist fire attack and a Polish cultural hub emblazoned with graffiti. I imagined the stories of abuse of foreigners on buses being told they have to go home now? Were the two Norwegian women I met lying when they told me first hand face to face that they had been threatened and told to pack their bags and "fcuk off home" after the referendum? Didn't one MP actually get murdered? None of that anything to do with Brexit then? https://fullfact.org/crime/hate-crime-and-eu-referendum/ Barry youve shown nothing , zip , knack all to prove what you claim ... Facts not fiction princess and of course you met two abused Norwegians ... If all these EU types are so abused and bothered by Brexit like you claim why are so many Polish shops opening in Huddersfield ??? Who they catering for princess ??? ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit and anti-Semitism is the fastest growing hate crime , both those facts dont suit your agenda though Ive just shown you some prime examples. Are you saying I made them up? What would be the point of that? All those incidents are well documented and posted on here before. Ive met a fair few Europeans and those two in particular were at a meeting with my MP a couple of years ago. I have no reason to doubt what they told me and I might add they reckoned it wasnt an isolated incident. Other EU migrants they knew had suffered similar. Did you check the Fullfact link? Live in denial if you like but there is no doubt that Brexit has unleashed some pretty vile behaviour from some. Thankfully a small minority but its there of that I have no doubt. I'll translate ... You cant prove a God damn thing ... Thats right isnt it ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. When you say "Fact".......Which kinda "Fact" are you demanding? ;-) ......... Is it like a genuine historical "Fact"?....... Or a genuine hysterical "Fact" like the Labour manifesto (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Here he is ... Hes been rattled ... Hes had his corned beef sandwich for tea ... Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. You conveniently forget the criteria for hate crime was also reduced *-) ......... So any Lefty with a anti Tory grudge could call the plod and register a complaint >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-11-21 6:43 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. You conveniently forget the criteria for hate crime was also reduced *-) ......... Which rag have you got that nonsense from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:46 PM pelmetman - 2019-11-21 6:43 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. You conveniently forget the criteria for hate crime was also reduced *-) ......... Which rag have you got that nonsense from? https://www.cps.gov.uk/hate-crime There you go Dumb Dumb ;-) ......... You know you want to :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:27 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Those aren't convictions princess ... Ive already shown they went down ... Move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:27 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Those aren't convictions princess ... Ive already shown they went down ... Move on Hate crime figures increased......source is the Home Office. That prosecutions went down is undoubtedly a result of the massive cuts the CPS have experienced both financially and lack of staffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:59 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:27 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Those aren't convictions princess ... Ive already shown they went down ... Move on Hate crime figures increased......source is the Home Office. That prosecutions went down is undoubtedly a result of the massive cuts the CPS have experienced both financially and lack of staffing. Hate crime figures increased due to what exactly ??? Please supply proof and proof of your CPS guff ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-22 6:21 AM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:59 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:27 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Those aren't convictions princess ... Ive already shown they went down ... Move on Hate crime figures increased......source is the Home Office. That prosecutions went down is undoubtedly a result of the massive cuts the CPS have experienced both financially and lack of staffing. Hate crime figures increased due to what exactly ??? Please supply proof and proof of your CPS guff ??? 1) Racially motivated http://csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CSI34_hate-crime.pdf 2) So a Tory minister who also happens to be a QC....is just talking "guff"? Attorney general Geoffrey Cox QC MP today rejected the accusation that the Crown Prosecution Service is failing – but said that the organisation cannot handle further spending cuts. In evidence to the House of Commons justice select committee, Cox conceded the CPS had suffered a 30% funding reduction and ‘significant’ reduction in staff. https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/cps-can-take-no-more-cuts-attorney-general-/5068981.article https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cps-can-not-handle-more-cuts-warns-attorney-general-geoffrey-cox_uk_5c4850c9e4b025aa26be9ee3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-22 9:27 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-22 6:21 AM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:59 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:27 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Those aren't convictions princess ... Ive already shown they went down ... Move on Hate crime figures increased......source is the Home Office. That prosecutions went down is undoubtedly a result of the massive cuts the CPS have experienced both financially and lack of staffing. Hate crime figures increased due to what exactly ??? Please supply proof and proof of your CPS guff ??? 1) Racially motivated http://csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CSI34_hate-crime.pdf 2) So a Tory minister who also happens to be a QC....is just talking "guff"? Attorney general Geoffrey Cox QC MP today rejected the accusation that the Crown Prosecution Service is failing – but said that the organisation cannot handle further spending cuts. In evidence to the House of Commons justice select committee, Cox conceded the CPS had suffered a 30% funding reduction and ‘significant’ reduction in staff. https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/cps-can-take-no-more-cuts-attorney-general-/5068981.article https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cps-can-not-handle-more-cuts-warns-attorney-general-geoffrey-cox_uk_5c4850c9e4b025aa26be9ee3 Your graph shows hate crime reports have been rising year on year princess it doesnt show any proof that EU national hatred on its own rose , can you show anything to prove it did ??? Its a bit like me saying road deaths increased after Christmas and blaming Christmas for the rise with no proof to back it up ... Nobody has denied the CPS has had funding cuts but you didn't say that you said prosecutions went down "undoubtedly" because of "massive cuts" to the CPS , how do you know that was the reason ??? how do you know the reason wasn't because the CPS decided most of the reports weren't worthy of the costs and time to take to court ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-11-22 10:27 AM Bulletguy - 2019-11-22 9:27 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-22 6:21 AM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:59 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:27 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Those aren't convictions princess ... Ive already shown they went down ... Move on Hate crime figures increased......source is the Home Office. That prosecutions went down is undoubtedly a result of the massive cuts the CPS have experienced both financially and lack of staffing. Hate crime figures increased due to what exactly ??? Please supply proof and proof of your CPS guff ??? 1) Racially motivated http://csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CSI34_hate-crime.pdf 2) So a Tory minister who also happens to be a QC....is just talking "guff"? Attorney general Geoffrey Cox QC MP today rejected the accusation that the Crown Prosecution Service is failing – but said that the organisation cannot handle further spending cuts. In evidence to the House of Commons justice select committee, Cox conceded the CPS had suffered a 30% funding reduction and ‘significant’ reduction in staff. https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/cps-can-take-no-more-cuts-attorney-general-/5068981.article https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cps-can-not-handle-more-cuts-warns-attorney-general-geoffrey-cox_uk_5c4850c9e4b025aa26be9ee3 Your graph shows hate crime reports have been rising year on year princess it doesnt show any proof that EU national hatred on its own rose , can you show anything to prove it did ??? "EU national hatred"? The graphs clearly state "Racially and religiously motivated hate crime" so cover victims from various countries. Read the damn links fgs! These figures are coming from the Home Office so are you now disputing what government say? *-) Nobody has denied the CPS has had funding cuts but you didn't say that you said prosecutions went down "undoubtedly" because of "massive cuts" to the CPS , how do you know that was the reason ??? how do you know the reason wasn't because the CPS decided most of the reports weren't worthy of the costs and time to take to court ??? You're clutching at straws now. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-11-22 11:40 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-22 10:27 AM Bulletguy - 2019-11-22 9:27 AM Birdbrain - 2019-11-22 6:21 AM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:59 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 8:27 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 7:17 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:36 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 6:26 PM Bulletguy - 2019-11-21 6:10 PM Birdbrain - 2019-11-21 5:11 PM ... Ive told you what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. Then back your claim up with linked facts as you say it's 'a fact'. Tell me princess why should I show you of all people linked facts when Ive asked countless times to do the same but you dont ??? Because you said, what is fact that the prosecution rate for hate crime fell after Brexit. You claim it's a fact so lets see you back that up now. You can't because you know damn well they went up. There you go ... I'll do sumat you never do and provide facts ... Its not difficult princess ... Lordy My ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-prosecutions-fall-attack-report-spike-cps-report-statistics-islamophobia-racist-a8003716.html Thats a bit better.....just as i post links to any reports i'm quoting. However it's an indisputable fact hate crime figures increased post referendum as Home Office figures show. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/hate-crime-brexit-terrorist-attacks-england-wales https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332453-500-uk-police-are-using-ai-to-spot-spikes-in-brexit-related-hate-crimes/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48692863 Those aren't convictions princess ... Ive already shown they went down ... Move on Hate crime figures increased......source is the Home Office. That prosecutions went down is undoubtedly a result of the massive cuts the CPS have experienced both financially and lack of staffing. Hate crime figures increased due to what exactly ??? Please supply proof and proof of your CPS guff ??? 1) Racially motivated http://csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CSI34_hate-crime.pdf 2) So a Tory minister who also happens to be a QC....is just talking "guff"? Attorney general Geoffrey Cox QC MP today rejected the accusation that the Crown Prosecution Service is failing – but said that the organisation cannot handle further spending cuts. In evidence to the House of Commons justice select committee, Cox conceded the CPS had suffered a 30% funding reduction and ‘significant’ reduction in staff. https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/cps-can-take-no-more-cuts-attorney-general-/5068981.article https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cps-can-not-handle-more-cuts-warns-attorney-general-geoffrey-cox_uk_5c4850c9e4b025aa26be9ee3 Your graph shows hate crime reports have been rising year on year princess it doesnt show any proof that EU national hatred on its own rose , can you show anything to prove it did ??? "EU national hatred"? The graphs clearly state "Racially and religiously motivated hate crime" so cover victims from various countries. Read the damn links fgs! These figures are coming from the Home Office so are you now disputing what government say? *-) Nobody has denied the CPS has had funding cuts but you didn't say that you said prosecutions went down "undoubtedly" because of "massive cuts" to the CPS , how do you know that was the reason ??? how do you know the reason wasn't because the CPS decided most of the reports weren't worthy of the costs and time to take to court ??? You're clutching at straws now. *-) Princess if asking for facts is now "clutching at straws" then its an even sadder world than I thought it was ... You have nothing to prove the CPS dropped the hate crime cases due to lack of funds do you ??? ... Simple yes or no will suffice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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