Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-12-29 9:15 AM Bulletguy - 2019-12-28 10:43 PM Barryd999 - 2019-12-28 10:06 PM 747 - 2019-12-28 6:57 PM Barry has flatly refused to watch the John Pilger documentary about the threats to the NHS. It does not fit in with his hatred of the Tories because his lovely Labour are implicated more than the Tories. 8-) Thhe Twitterati have done an excellent brainwashing job on him. ;-) No I havent. I just hate watching stuff with adverts so was waiting for a downloadable version without them. Ive seen a few comments about it though on Social media and dont remember any of them suggesting that Labour are to blame. As I said to you before though it makes no difference. The Tories have been at the helm for a decade so its no good blaming anyone else but them now but ill make a point of watching the program and then we can discuss it. I gather John Pilger is a bit of a lefty. There isn't an 'ad free' version yet as it was on ITV but it's well worth putting up with the ad breaks. https://www.itv.com/hub/the-dirty-war-on-the-nhs/2a5959a0001 As a taster from the documentary here are a couple of short YT clips from it. "NHS" US style; I finished watching it this morning. Apart from a few details I already knew most of this. A lot of it is pretty much what some of us have been banging on about for some time. The NHS is simply not safe in the hands of this current batch of Tories but now the public have given them a mandate to do just what the hell they like for the foreseeable probably with no real opposition. Add into the mix Brexit and the up and coming trade deal with the USA and its not difficult to see where this is heading. More privatisation, the likely huge rise in drug prices and a massive hit to the economy equals all bets are off. Whether we will see the dire situation that we saw in the program thats happening in America I dont know but I Dont think we have ever had a government and a Tory party like this one who can now do WTF they like. Expect at the very least to see a massive push for private health care plans over the coming years. As usual the "Haves" will sign up to BUPA or whoever and the "Have nots" will put up with an ever failing NHS which may still be free at the point of entry for the time being but increasingly inadequate. One things for sure, the NHS is not safe with the Tories and they do not give a flying fcuk about the people in this country unless they are one of them which doesnt include the new raft of Brexit loving Tory converts ooop North. How Trump is coming at pharma pricing is totally crazy. The reason for their high costs is it's an unregulated industry enabling US pharma to charge what the hell they like, unlike UK where prices are regulated. Instead of ordering their own pharma companies to lower their prices, Trump wants those paying less than the US citizen to pay more. One of my prescribed meds in US costs $1446 a month, so $17,352 a year. UK cost is one tenth of that per month. I don't pay as i qualified for exemption before i was 60 after which of course it's free anyway, but that gives some idea of what he wants to foist on the NHS. I've also recently gone through a course of hospital treatment which in US costs $25,000. And that's just the treatment....God knows how much the tests would cost in addition which were extensive over a three month period. Regards private healthcare, i don't have any issue with those preferring to go private on condition it's kept out of the NHS in it's entirety which it never has been, often using NHS equipment and facilities. I've found those most vocal about the state of the NHS and praising private healthcare are usually the first to turn to the NHS when their own personal needs become life threatening. Pilgers documentary was hard hitting as he spoke to a number of people within the profession, both in UK and US, and it's difficult to disagree with what they said.....after all they are the 'front line troops' so know better than anyone. The field hospital set up in one of the poorer southern states was truly shocking and more what i'd expect to see in a third world country facing famine. One lady told how she was $1.5 million in debt from medical bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Barryd999 - 2019-12-29 9:15 AM Bulletguy - 2019-12-28 10:43 PM Barryd999 - 2019-12-28 10:06 PM 747 - 2019-12-28 6:57 PM Barry has flatly refused to watch the John Pilger documentary about the threats to the NHS. It does not fit in with his hatred of the Tories because his lovely Labour are implicated more than the Tories. 8-) Thhe Twitterati have done an excellent brainwashing job on him. ;-) No I havent. I just hate watching stuff with adverts so was waiting for a downloadable version without them. Ive seen a few comments about it though on Social media and dont remember any of them suggesting that Labour are to blame. As I said to you before though it makes no difference. The Tories have been at the helm for a decade so its no good blaming anyone else but them now but ill make a point of watching the program and then we can discuss it. I gather John Pilger is a bit of a lefty. There isn't an 'ad free' version yet as it was on ITV but it's well worth putting up with the ad breaks. https://www.itv.com/hub/the-dirty-war-on-the-nhs/2a5959a0001 As a taster from the documentary here are a couple of short YT clips from it. "NHS" US style; I finished watching it this morning. Apart from a few details I already knew most of this. A lot of it is pretty much what some of us have been banging on about for some time. The NHS is simply not safe in the hands of this current batch of Tories but now the public have given them a mandate to do just what the hell they like for the foreseeable probably with no real opposition. Add into the mix Brexit and the up and coming trade deal with the USA and its not difficult to see where this is heading. More privatisation, the likely huge rise in drug prices and a massive hit to the economy equals all bets are off. Whether we will see the dire situation that we saw in the program thats happening in America I dont know but I Dont think we have ever had a government and a Tory party like this one who can now do WTF they like. Expect at the very least to see a massive push for private health care plans over the coming years. As usual the "Haves" will sign up to BUPA or whoever and the "Have nots" will put up with an ever failing NHS which may still be free at the point of entry for the time being but increasingly inadequate. One things for sure, the NHS is not safe with the Tories and they do not give a flying fcuk about the people in this country unless they are one of them which doesnt include the new raft of Brexit loving Tory converts ooop North. Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix........ You're like a stuck record still trotting out this old garbage. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Without doubt! Had he been as "ill" as he claims he wouldn't have had the energy to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:26 PM malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Without doubt! Had he been as "ill" as he claims he wouldn't have had the energy to do anything. Yep I was ;-) .......... I consider myself a survivor of a Labour run NHS >:-( ......... If I was a greedy Socialist I'd sue >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-12-29 2:48 PM malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Believe me I was in NO fit state to argue with anyone 8-) .......... Nobody is ever going to believe that porker! (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Also your tendency to exaggerate so far off the scale it descends into utter farce. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:37 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 2:48 PM malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Believe me I was in NO fit state to argue with anyone 8-) .......... Nobody is ever going to believe that porker! (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Also your tendency to exaggerate so far off the scale it descends into utter farce. :-| You should know by now Dumb Dumb ;-) ........ I don't need to Bulletsh*t >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:44 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:37 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 2:48 PM malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Believe me I was in NO fit state to argue with anyone 8-) .......... Nobody is ever going to believe that porker! (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Also your tendency to exaggerate so far off the scale it descends into utter farce. :-| You should know by now Dumb Dumb ;-) ........ I don't need to sh*t >:-) ........ That explains why you're so full of it. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:44 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:37 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 2:48 PM malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Believe me I was in NO fit state to argue with anyone 8-) .......... Nobody is ever going to believe that porker! (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Also your tendency to exaggerate so far off the scale it descends into utter farce. :-| You should know by now Dumb Dumb ;-) ........ I don't need to Bulletsh*t >:-) ........ That explains why you're so full of it. :-| Sorted your typo ;-) .........No need to thank me (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:54 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:44 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:37 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 2:48 PM malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Believe me I was in NO fit state to argue with anyone 8-) .......... Nobody is ever going to believe that porker! (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Also your tendency to exaggerate so far off the scale it descends into utter farce. :-| You should know by now Dumb Dumb ;-) ........ I don't need to sh*t >:-) ........ That explains why you're so full of it. :-| Sorted your typo ;-) .........No need to thank me (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Not my typo........yours. And yes, you're full of crap. Now, are you going to try some debate on points raised or are you staying in your little 'safe space' playpen the rest of the evening making juvenile remarks? :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:03 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:54 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:44 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 4:37 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 2:48 PM malc d - 2019-12-29 12:06 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 9:31 AM Seeing as I spent 24 hours in a A&E corridor with a burst appendix, watched full scale arguments between doctors and nurses.....Had the nerves in my arm permanently damaged by a Kack handed drip insertion ..Got fed crap.....watched my side table being washed down with my own p*ss........Then had to spend the next 6 months getting my wife to speak on the phone for me to customers, because my voice box had been damaged by the anesthetist 8-) ........... The NHS wasn't any F*cking better of in Labour's hands in my experience *-) ........... Maybe the way you were treated was because you kept arguing with the doctors and nurses and calling them loony lefties ? ;-) Believe me I was in NO fit state to argue with anyone 8-) .......... Nobody is ever going to believe that porker! (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Also your tendency to exaggerate so far off the scale it descends into utter farce. :-| You should know by now Dumb Dumb ;-) ........ I don't need to sh*t >:-) ........ That explains why you're so full of it. :-| Sorted your typo ;-) .........No need to thank me (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Not my typo........yours. And yes, you're full of crap. Now, are you going to try some debate on points raised or are you staying in your little 'safe space' playpen the rest of the evening making juvenile remarks? :-| Get over yourself Dumb Dumb (lol) ......... I know there's feck all you or I will agree on ;-) ........ After all whats to debate? :D ......... You've lost LOSER......get used to it >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-12-29 5:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:03 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:54 PM Sorted your typo ;-) .........No need to thank me (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Not my typo........yours. And yes, you're full of crap. Now, are you going to try some debate on points raised or are you staying in your little 'safe space' playpen the rest of the evening making juvenile remarks? :-| Get over yourself Dumb Dumb (lol) ......... I know there's feck all you or I will agree on ;-) ........ After all whats to debate? :D ......... You've lost LOSER......get used to it >:-) ....... So you keep reminding everyone in virtually every damn thread......yet despite being asked numerous times, have been unable to explain how you personally believe you are going to benefit from your "win". You're getting yourself off each day with the same inane juvenile comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 5:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:03 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:54 PM Sorted your typo ;-) .........No need to thank me (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Not my typo........yours. And yes, you're full of crap. Now, are you going to try some debate on points raised or are you staying in your little 'safe space' playpen the rest of the evening making juvenile remarks? :-| Get over yourself Dumb Dumb (lol) ......... I know there's feck all you or I will agree on ;-) ........ After all whats to debate? :D ......... You've lost LOSER......get used to it >:-) ....... So you keep reminding everyone in virtually every damn thread......yet despite being asked numerous times, have been unable to explain how you personally believe you are going to benefit from your "win". You're getting yourself off each day with the same inane juvenile comments. Guffaw......... Perhaps you should be asking yourself why the Great British public voted for Boris? ;-) ........ Surely its not because of little Ol me? :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-12-29 5:55 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 5:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:03 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:54 PM Sorted your typo ;-) .........No need to thank me (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Not my typo........yours. And yes, you're full of crap. Now, are you going to try some debate on points raised or are you staying in your little 'safe space' playpen the rest of the evening making juvenile remarks? :-| Get over yourself Dumb Dumb (lol) ......... I know there's feck all you or I will agree on ;-) ........ After all whats to debate? :D ......... You've lost LOSER......get used to it >:-) ....... So you keep reminding everyone in virtually every damn thread......yet despite being asked numerous times, have been unable to explain how you personally believe you are going to benefit from your "win". You're getting yourself off each day with the same inane juvenile comments. Guffaw......... Perhaps you should be asking yourself why the Great British public voted for Boris? ;-) ........ Still ducking the question i see. I asked how you personally believe you are going to benefit from your "win". If all you can manage is silly "guffaws", "sniggers", and "losers", then i'll take it you haven't the faintest idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 7:11 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 5:55 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 5:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-12-29 5:03 PM pelmetman - 2019-12-29 4:54 PM Sorted your typo ;-) .........No need to thank me (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Not my typo........yours. And yes, you're full of crap. Now, are you going to try some debate on points raised or are you staying in your little 'safe space' playpen the rest of the evening making juvenile remarks? :-| Get over yourself Dumb Dumb (lol) ......... I know there's feck all you or I will agree on ;-) ........ After all whats to debate? :D ......... You've lost LOSER......get used to it >:-) ....... So you keep reminding everyone in virtually every damn thread......yet despite being asked numerous times, have been unable to explain how you personally believe you are going to benefit from your "win". You're getting yourself off each day with the same inane juvenile comments. Guffaw......... Perhaps you should be asking yourself why the Great British public voted for Boris? ;-) ........ Still ducking the question i see. I asked how you personally believe you are going to benefit from your "win". If all you can manage is silly "guffaws", "sniggers", and "losers", then i'll take it you haven't the faintest idea. Yes you are (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... As for who's got the best crystal balls ;-) ......... I bet mine are better than Brian's 90% of the "worlds" economists >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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