Birdbrain Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-01-12 3:29 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 9:57 AM Brexiteers often say its not about the money while constantly banging on about the money we send to the EU. Have a read of this. Its astonishing. https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/brexit-cost-reach-billions-highest-boris-johnson-uk-economic-study-2020-1-1028809389 New bus required. I think some Brexiteers realise they've been duped but as with all scams people caught up in any rarely admit to it and in the case of Brexit will continue parroting they knew what they were voting for. They have to keep saying that in order to convince themselves. They won't change their mantra until they personally are hit extremely hard and suffer the grave consequences of their actions. If only those consequences could be distributed solely to those that "knew what they were voting for", then the harsher the better. Unfortunately the damage has been inflicted on people who never asked for it but those that did must now be held to account. What you "think" and reality are two different things thankfully ... You and Barry keep telling yaselves the guff about being "duped" cos it makes you feel better , thats all ... Barry "doesnt give a toss about Brexit" either ... Lordy My you two will go to your graves being bitter and twisted full of hate wont ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Nothing hateful here, just a discussion about the cost of Brexit so far. I was astounded to be honest and figured it was worthy of comment. I absolutely hope to look Daft as FunnyJohn says I might. Then again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-01-12 3:49 PM Bulletguy - 2020-01-12 3:29 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 9:57 AM Brexiteers often say its not about the money while constantly banging on about the money we send to the EU. Have a read of this. Its astonishing. https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/brexit-cost-reach-billions-highest-boris-johnson-uk-economic-study-2020-1-1028809389 New bus required. I think some Brexiteers realise they've been duped but as with all scams people caught up in any rarely admit to it and in the case of Brexit will continue parroting they knew what they were voting for. They have to keep saying that in order to convince themselves. They won't change their mantra until they personally are hit extremely hard and suffer the grave consequences of their actions. If only those consequences could be distributed solely to those that "knew what they were voting for", then the harsher the better. Unfortunately the damage has been inflicted on people who never asked for it but those that did must now be held to account. What you "think" and reality are two different things thankfully ... True.....i was giving Brexiteers some room for benefit of doubt so maybe i shouldn't as the reality shows the madness of Brexit has cost the country more over the past 3.5 years than our total net contribution over the past 47 years of EC/EU membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Before we get too taken away with this, we spend £ 280 million per week after rebate. So that’s basically £14.5 billion per year. So in ten years it’s 145 billion ,which is the figure being talked about ,not 47 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-01-12 4:55 PM Before we get too taken away with this, we spend £ 280 million per week after rebate. So that’s basically £14.5 billion per year. So in ten years it’s 145 billion ,which is the figure being talked about ,not 47 years. The figures and claims on the side of the new bus above are based on what we paid net for the past 47 years not going forward. Obviously decades ago it would have been less. I think the true figure we pay "net" after abatement's and EU public and private sector credits is more like £8bn a year. People talked about having this £350m a week back (which we never paid) and what we could do with all that money but they didnt account for just a 1% drop in the economy wiping £20 billion a year away. The governments own figures showed the various scenarios and under a no deal or hard Brexit it was way more than that. In the north East under a no deal Brexit it was 16%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 9:57 AM Brexiteers often say its not about the money while constantly banging on about the money we send to the EU. Have a read of this. Its astonishing. https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/brexit-cost-reach-billions-highest-boris-johnson-uk-economic-study-2020-1-1028809389 New bus required. Is that the same bloke that said this? ;-) ........ "While the BOE is unlikely to have factored the Budget numbers into its forecast, the loosening means policy makers led by Governor Mark Carney will probably lean even more heavily on Brexit uncertainty as the reason for keeping rates on hold." Read more at: https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/u-k-fiscal-boost-is-a-headache-for-carney-and-the-boe-chart Copyright © BloombergQuint The Loser Brigade obviously sups from the same well of Doom & Gloom :D ........ You lot will be seriously disappointed if the current global downturn doesn't turn into a full blown depression for the UK *-) ....... What a bunch of pathetic Losers really you are (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-01-12 6:14 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 9:57 AM Brexiteers often say its not about the money while constantly banging on about the money we send to the EU. Have a read of this. Its astonishing. https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/brexit-cost-reach-billions-highest-boris-johnson-uk-economic-study-2020-1-1028809389 New bus required. Is that the same bloke that said this? ;-) ........ "While the BOE is unlikely to have factored the Budget numbers into its forecast, the loosening means policy makers led by Governor Mark Carney will probably lean even more heavily on Brexit uncertainty as the reason for keeping rates on hold." Read more at: https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/u-k-fiscal-boost-is-a-headache-for-carney-and-the-boe-chart Copyright © BloombergQuint The Loser Brigade obviously sups from the same well of Doom & Gloom :D ........ You lot will be seriously disappointed if the current global downturn doesn't turn into a full blown depression for the UK *-) ....... What a bunch of pathetic Losers really you are (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... You mean the global downturn you keep mentioning when nobody else does so you can blame our failed economy on that rather than Brexit when it goes tities up? (lol) The excuses are already rolling in. I expect when the economy tanks you will have a raft of them. I imagine it will all be the EU's fault. Trouble is you now cant blame the remoaners, we are out of the game now and you wont get away with blaming the EU either as they are way too clever for that and have ran circles round our inept amateur government from day one. Theres that word again you seem obsessed with "Losers". If Brexit turns out to be a sh1tfest we will all be losers Dave, just some more than others. We already are judging by how much money has been wiped off the economy (more than we ever paid in as members it seems) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 6:41 PM pelmetman - 2020-01-12 6:14 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 9:57 AM Brexiteers often say its not about the money while constantly banging on about the money we send to the EU. Have a read of this. Its astonishing. https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/brexit-cost-reach-billions-highest-boris-johnson-uk-economic-study-2020-1-1028809389 New bus required. Is that the same bloke that said this? ;-) ........ "While the BOE is unlikely to have factored the Budget numbers into its forecast, the loosening means policy makers led by Governor Mark Carney will probably lean even more heavily on Brexit uncertainty as the reason for keeping rates on hold." Read more at: https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/u-k-fiscal-boost-is-a-headache-for-carney-and-the-boe-chart Copyright © BloombergQuint The Loser Brigade obviously sups from the same well of Doom & Gloom :D ........ You lot will be seriously disappointed if the current global downturn doesn't turn into a full blown depression for the UK *-) ....... What a bunch of pathetic Losers really you are (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... You mean the global downturn you keep mentioning when nobody else does so you can blame our failed economy on that rather than Brexit when it goes tities up? (lol) The excuses are already rolling in. I expect when the economy tanks you will have a raft of them. I imagine it will all be the EU's fault...... And we haven't even left yet. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 4:10 PM Nothing hateful here, just a discussion about the cost of Brexit so far. I was astounded to be honest and figured it was worthy of comment. I absolutely hope to look Daft as FunnyJohn says I might. Then again... "Nothing hateful" ... Give up ... For nearly 4 years you and your organ grinder boyfriend have been hatefully bitching about how leave voters were duped and goofing about the young and the old and how the old have robbed the young of their lives blah blah blah yet we've had 3 elections since a lot of those old folk as youve told us have died off and nowt has changed other than those nasty Tories have gained a massive majority ... Jeez , lay off it fella please ... Remember in your own hypocrite words you "dont give a toss about Brexit" ... Move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-01-12 7:41 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 4:10 PM Nothing hateful here, just a discussion about the cost of Brexit so far. I was astounded to be honest and figured it was worthy of comment. I absolutely hope to look Daft as FunnyJohn says I might. Then again... "Nothing hateful" ... Give up ... For nearly 4 years you and your organ grinder boyfriend have been hatefully bitching about how leave voters were duped and goofing about the young and the old and how the old have robbed the young of their lives blah blah blah yet we've had 3 elections since a lot of those old folk as youve told us have died off and nowt has changed other than those nasty Tories have gained a massive majority ... Jeez , lay off it fella please ... Remember in your own hypocrite words you "dont give a toss about Brexit" ... Move on Says the person who just started a thread comparing the EU And that nice man Guy Verhofstad to the Nazis. I Was gonna point out the Irony of that tweet but frankly your right, I dont really give a toss and couldnt be arsed. I was however interested to hear what people thought about the massive cost of this sh1tfest (before we even leave). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Austria demands France drop it’s veto on Macedonia’s membership talks. Hole in the new budget is going to cause massive problems to member states. Bulgaria demands France drop veto on the wasteful monthly moving of Parliament. .......I see no ships...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 10:21 PM Birdbrain - 2020-01-12 7:41 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 4:10 PM Nothing hateful here, just a discussion about the cost of Brexit so far. I was astounded to be honest and figured it was worthy of comment. I absolutely hope to look Daft as FunnyJohn says I might. Then again... "Nothing hateful" ... Give up ... For nearly 4 years you and your organ grinder boyfriend have been hatefully bitching about how leave voters were duped and goofing about the young and the old and how the old have robbed the young of their lives blah blah blah yet we've had 3 elections since a lot of those old folk as youve told us have died off and nowt has changed other than those nasty Tories have gained a massive majority ... Jeez , lay off it fella please ... Remember in your own hypocrite words you "dont give a toss about Brexit" ... Move on Says the person who just started a thread comparing the EU And that nice man Guy Verhofstad to the Nazis. I Was gonna point out the Irony of that tweet but frankly your right, I dont really give a toss and couldnt be arsed. I was however interested to hear what people thought about the massive cost of this sh1tfest (before we even leave). "I dont really give a toss and couldn't be arsed" ... Could you remember that in future please before you reply to most stuff ... Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 1:00 PM John52 - 2020-01-12 1:37 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 11:05 AM The biggest threat facing companies and the reason for lack of investment wasn't Brexit but fear of Corbyn. So why did the pound fall when F*ck Business BoJo 'won' *-) Is that the pound that's hovering around the highest point that it's been for a year? Now that companies know that we're not going to have a Marxist who, as usual, will trash the economy, many are already hiring and expanding. Fear of Comrade Corbyn and his fellow travellers has been responsible for business not investing. Thank God we're now safe from the evils of Socialism for a generation, if not forever. Of course there are other factors that affect the exchange rate. But in the aftermath of the election, the biggest factor was that F*ck Business Bojo would be leading us instead of Jeremy Corbyn. How ever much you squirm you can't get away from the fact the pound FELL. Just as it did when he won the Brexit vote. Was that coincidence as well *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-01-13 12:26 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 10:21 PM Birdbrain - 2020-01-12 7:41 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 4:10 PM Nothing hateful here, just a discussion about the cost of Brexit so far. I was astounded to be honest and figured it was worthy of comment. I absolutely hope to look Daft as FunnyJohn says I might. Then again... "Nothing hateful" ... Give up ... For nearly 4 years you and your organ grinder boyfriend have been hatefully bitching about how leave voters were duped and goofing about the young and the old and how the old have robbed the young of their lives blah blah blah yet we've had 3 elections since a lot of those old folk as youve told us have died off and nowt has changed other than those nasty Tories have gained a massive majority ... Jeez , lay off it fella please ... Remember in your own hypocrite words you "dont give a toss about Brexit" ... Move on Says the person who just started a thread comparing the EU And that nice man Guy Verhofstad to the Nazis. I Was gonna point out the Irony of that tweet but frankly your right, I dont really give a toss and couldnt be arsed. I was however interested to hear what people thought about the massive cost of this sh1tfest (before we even leave). "I dont really give a toss and couldn't be arsed" ... Could you remember that in future please before you reply to most stuff ... Regards No of course not. We can't have you living in an echo chamber with just Dave Helmet telling each other how great Brexit is and sharing mocked up porn pictures of Priti vac*nt. I see she has now put extinction rebellion on the terrorist list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-13 1:46 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 1:00 PM John52 - 2020-01-12 1:37 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 11:05 AM The biggest threat facing companies and the reason for lack of investment wasn't Brexit but fear of Corbyn. So why did the pound fall when F*ck Business BoJo 'won' *-) Is that the pound that's hovering around the highest point that it's been for a year? Now that companies know that we're not going to have a Marxist who, as usual, will trash the economy, many are already hiring and expanding. Fear of Comrade Corbyn and his fellow travellers has been responsible for business not investing. Thank God we're now safe from the evils of Socialism for a generation, if not forever. Of course there are other factors that affect the exchange rate. But in the aftermath of the election, the biggest factor was that F*ck Business Bojo would be leading us instead of Jeremy Corbyn. How ever much you squirm you can't get away from the fact the pound FELL. Just as it did when he won the Brexit vote. Was that coincidence as well *-) Are we on the same planet? When Boris won the pound surged as did shares. You are weird. I hope the Guardian's OK with you? If I'd linked to the Mail you'd have been banging on again about things being manipulated. And that didn't turn out so well for you did it? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/13/pound-stages-biggest-rally-in-almost-three-years-on-tory-victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 They are probably more terrorist than Palestinian’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 FunsterJohn - 2020-01-13 1:20 PM John52 - 2020-01-13 1:46 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 1:00 PM John52 - 2020-01-12 1:37 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 11:05 AM The biggest threat facing companies and the reason for lack of investment wasn't Brexit but fear of Corbyn. So why did the pound fall when F*ck Business BoJo 'won' *-) Is that the pound that's hovering around the highest point that it's been for a year? Now that companies know that we're not going to have a Marxist who, as usual, will trash the economy, many are already hiring and expanding. Fear of Comrade Corbyn and his fellow travellers has been responsible for business not investing. Thank God we're now safe from the evils of Socialism for a generation, if not forever. Of course there are other factors that affect the exchange rate. But in the aftermath of the election, the biggest factor was that F*ck Business Bojo would be leading us instead of Jeremy Corbyn. How ever much you squirm you can't get away from the fact the pound FELL. Just as it did when he won the Brexit vote. Was that coincidence as well *-) Are we on the same planet? When Boris won the pound surged as did shares. You are weird. I hope the Guardian's OK with you? If I'd linked to the Mail you'd have been banging on again about things being manipulated. And that didn't turn out so well for you did it? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/13/pound-stages-biggest-rally-in-almost-three-years-on-tory-victory Look at the date that was printed Then google a graph of the pound dollar rate and look at what happened when F*ck Business Bojo actually got in *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-13 2:27 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-13 1:20 PM John52 - 2020-01-13 1:46 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 1:00 PM John52 - 2020-01-12 1:37 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 11:05 AM The biggest threat facing companies and the reason for lack of investment wasn't Brexit but fear of Corbyn. So why did the pound fall when F*ck Business BoJo 'won' *-) Is that the pound that's hovering around the highest point that it's been for a year? Now that companies know that we're not going to have a Marxist who, as usual, will trash the economy, many are already hiring and expanding. Fear of Comrade Corbyn and his fellow travellers has been responsible for business not investing. Thank God we're now safe from the evils of Socialism for a generation, if not forever. Of course there are other factors that affect the exchange rate. But in the aftermath of the election, the biggest factor was that F*ck Business Bojo would be leading us instead of Jeremy Corbyn. How ever much you squirm you can't get away from the fact the pound FELL. Just as it did when he won the Brexit vote. Was that coincidence as well *-) Are we on the same planet? When Boris won the pound surged as did shares. You are weird. I hope the Guardian's OK with you? If I'd linked to the Mail you'd have been banging on again about things being manipulated. And that didn't turn out so well for you did it? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/13/pound-stages-biggest-rally-in-almost-three-years-on-tory-victory Look at the date that was printed Then google a graph of the pound dollar rate and look at what happened when F*ck Business Bojo actually got in *-) It was printed the day after the general election when Brilliant Boris secured an 80 seat victory and consigned socialism to the garbage bin of history. Do you remember, that was the day that Boris won? Here's another one for you: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-result-pound-dollar-euro-exit-poll-tory-boris-johnson-a9244661.html Whatever affected the markets slightly after Boris's stunning win, these reports clearly indicate that those same markets were far happier that Boris won than if the Right Honourable Jeremy Corbyn MP, 2 A Levels (Grade E) 2 General Elections (Failed) was going to be in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-01-13 1:06 PM Birdbrain - 2020-01-13 12:26 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 10:21 PM Birdbrain - 2020-01-12 7:41 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 4:10 PM Nothing hateful here, just a discussion about the cost of Brexit so far. I was astounded to be honest and figured it was worthy of comment. I absolutely hope to look Daft as FunnyJohn says I might. Then again... "Nothing hateful" ... Give up ... For nearly 4 years you and your organ grinder boyfriend have been hatefully bitching about how leave voters were duped and goofing about the young and the old and how the old have robbed the young of their lives blah blah blah yet we've had 3 elections since a lot of those old folk as youve told us have died off and nowt has changed other than those nasty Tories have gained a massive majority ... Jeez , lay off it fella please ... Remember in your own hypocrite words you "dont give a toss about Brexit" ... Move on Says the person who just started a thread comparing the EU And that nice man Guy Verhofstad to the Nazis. I Was gonna point out the Irony of that tweet but frankly your right, I dont really give a toss and couldnt be arsed. I was however interested to hear what people thought about the massive cost of this sh1tfest (before we even leave). "I dont really give a toss and couldn't be arsed" ... Could you remember that in future please before you reply to most stuff ... Regards No of course not. We can't have you living in an echo chamber with just Dave Helmet telling each other how great Brexit is and sharing mocked up porn pictures of Priti vac*nt. I see she has now put extinction rebellion on the terrorist list. Barry'll enjoy this! :D From William Keegan's "In my view" column in yesterday's Observer. "Finally, a quiz question. Which newspaper declared on New Year’s Day 1973 – when we joined what became the EU – “EUROPE, HERE WE COME” adding that “for 10 years” it had “campaigned for this day” and that “we have not wavered in our conviction that Britain’s best and brightest future is in Europe”? Yes, you have got it in one: the Daily Mail. Funny old world." How times change! And here's another thing: https://tinyurl.com/wh5zhnu this time from 2015 on the theme of Brexit and its wisdom or otherwise. It is familiar, and rings true, albeit I had forgotten one or two bits. Read and marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 FunsterJohn - 2020-01-13 2:08 PM John52 - 2020-01-13 2:27 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-13 1:20 PM John52 - 2020-01-13 1:46 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 1:00 PM John52 - 2020-01-12 1:37 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-12 11:05 AM The biggest threat facing companies and the reason for lack of investment wasn't Brexit but fear of Corbyn. So why did the pound fall when F*ck Business BoJo 'won' *-) Is that the pound that's hovering around the highest point that it's been for a year? Now that companies know that we're not going to have a Marxist who, as usual, will trash the economy, many are already hiring and expanding. Fear of Comrade Corbyn and his fellow travellers has been responsible for business not investing. Thank God we're now safe from the evils of Socialism for a generation, if not forever. Of course there are other factors that affect the exchange rate. But in the aftermath of the election, the biggest factor was that F*ck Business Bojo would be leading us instead of Jeremy Corbyn. How ever much you squirm you can't get away from the fact the pound FELL. Just as it did when he won the Brexit vote. Was that coincidence as well *-) Are we on the same planet? When Boris won the pound surged as did shares. You are weird. I hope the Guardian's OK with you? If I'd linked to the Mail you'd have been banging on again about things being manipulated. And that didn't turn out so well for you did it? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/13/pound-stages-biggest-rally-in-almost-three-years-on-tory-victory Look at the date that was printed Then google a graph of the pound dollar rate and look at what happened when F*ck Business Bojo actually got in *-) It was printed the day after the general election when Brilliant Boris secured an 80 seat victory and consigned socialism to the garbage bin of history. Do you remember, that was the day that Boris won? Here's another one for you: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-result-pound-dollar-euro-exit-poll-tory-boris-johnson-a9244661.html Whatever affected the markets slightly after Boris's stunning win, these reports clearly indicate that those same markets were far happier that Boris won than if the Right Honourable Jeremy Corbyn MP, 2 A Levels (Grade E) 2 General Elections (Failed) was going to be in charge. Why can't you just google the pound dollar rate and see the week after F*ck Business BoJo 'won' the election? See the figures for yourself instead of getting everything second hand from a 'journalist' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-13 5:31 PM Why can't you just google the pound dollar rate and see the week after F*ck Business BoJo 'won' the election? See the figures for yourself instead of getting everything second hand from a 'journalist' Your latest whinge is predicated on your belief that Business doesn't like Boris. I supply evidence from the Guardian no less, and could have supplied it from ten sources, and you call this 'second hand from a journalist', with journalist in inverted commas, implying that the Guardian's journalists aren't really journalists.That shows a degree of desperation! Whatever happened days after the election is irrelevant to this argument. If Business didn't like Boris, after the news of a Tory victory, the pound would have sunk, not risen. Many things affect the pound, but the markets weeping because Corbyn didn't get in isn't one of them. You also choose to ignore an even more important barometer, the stock market. Immediately after the election the FTSE rose to its biggest one-day gain in three years, and since then has climbed even higher. From City AM: “The FTSE is flying,” said Markets.com analyst Neil Wilson. “It’s still the relief playing out.” “It’s absolutely on the mark with what we had expected; there has been a lot of pent-up demand,” Wilson continued. “Uncertainty over Brexit has gone and the Corbyn danger has evaporated.” 'The Corbyn danger has evaporated'. As I said! https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/16/market-value-of-top-uk-firms-up-50bn-as-post-election-rally-continues https://www.cityam.com/ftse-100-rises-on-trade-war-and-uk-election-optimism/ But they're only 'journalists', so you'll probably ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 FunsterJohn - 2020-01-13 5:28 PM John52 - 2020-01-13 5:31 PM Why can't you just google the pound dollar rate and see the week after F*ck Business BoJo 'won' the election? See the figures for yourself instead of getting everything second hand from a 'journalist' Your latest whinge is predicated on your belief that Business doesn't like Boris. I supply evidence from the Guardian no less, and could have supplied it from ten sources, and you call this 'second hand from a journalist', with journalist in inverted commas, implying that the Guardian's journalists aren't really journalists.That shows a degree of desperation! Whatever happened days after the election is irrelevant to this argument. If Business didn't like Boris, after the news of a Tory victory, the pound would have sunk, not risen. Many things affect the pound, but the markets weeping because Corbyn didn't get in isn't one of them. You also choose to ignore an even more important barometer, the stock market. Immediately after the election the FTSE rose to its biggest one-day gain in three years, and since then has climbed even higher. From City AM: “The FTSE is flying,” said Markets.com analyst Neil Wilson. “It’s still the relief playing out.” “It’s absolutely on the mark with what we had expected; there has been a lot of pent-up demand,” Wilson continued. “Uncertainty over Brexit has gone and the Corbyn danger has evaporated.” 'The Corbyn danger has evaporated'. As I said! https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/16/market-value-of-top-uk-firms-up-50bn-as-post-election-rally-continues https://www.cityam.com/ftse-100-rises-on-trade-war-and-uk-election-optimism/ But they're only 'journalists', so you'll probably ignore them. More bluff and bluster from you - anything but simply look at a graph of the pound dollar rate the week after the election :D Of course shares go up when BoJo crashes the pound because their earnings are in hard currency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-13 7:44 PM FunsterJohn - 2020-01-13 5:28 PM John52 - 2020-01-13 5:31 PM Why can't you just google the pound dollar rate and see the week after F*ck Business BoJo 'won' the election? See the figures for yourself instead of getting everything second hand from a 'journalist' Your latest whinge is predicated on your belief that Business doesn't like Boris. I supply evidence from the Guardian no less, and could have supplied it from ten sources, and you call this 'second hand from a journalist', with journalist in inverted commas, implying that the Guardian's journalists aren't really journalists.That shows a degree of desperation! Whatever happened days after the election is irrelevant to this argument. If Business didn't like Boris, after the news of a Tory victory, the pound would have sunk, not risen. Many things affect the pound, but the markets weeping because Corbyn didn't get in isn't one of them. You also choose to ignore an even more important barometer, the stock market. Immediately after the election the FTSE rose to its biggest one-day gain in three years, and since then has climbed even higher. From City AM: “The FTSE is flying,” said Markets.com analyst Neil Wilson. “It’s still the relief playing out.” “It’s absolutely on the mark with what we had expected; there has been a lot of pent-up demand,” Wilson continued. “Uncertainty over Brexit has gone and the Corbyn danger has evaporated.” 'The Corbyn danger has evaporated'. As I said! https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/16/market-value-of-top-uk-firms-up-50bn-as-post-election-rally-continues https://www.cityam.com/ftse-100-rises-on-trade-war-and-uk-election-optimism/ But they're only 'journalists', so you'll probably ignore them. More bluff and bluster from you - anything but simply look at a graph of the pound dollar rate the week after the election :D Of course shares go up when BoJo crashes the pound because their earnings are in hard currency No bluster from me, just facts. I'll leave it to others to decide if the market's reaction to the election signifies approval of Boris and glee that Corbyn is no longer a threat to the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-01-13 3:52 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-13 1:06 PM Birdbrain - 2020-01-13 12:26 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 10:21 PM Birdbrain - 2020-01-12 7:41 PM Barryd999 - 2020-01-12 4:10 PM Nothing hateful here, just a discussion about the cost of Brexit so far. I was astounded to be honest and figured it was worthy of comment. I absolutely hope to look Daft as FunnyJohn says I might. Then again... "Nothing hateful" ... Give up ... For nearly 4 years you and your organ grinder boyfriend have been hatefully bitching about how leave voters were duped and goofing about the young and the old and how the old have robbed the young of their lives blah blah blah yet we've had 3 elections since a lot of those old folk as youve told us have died off and nowt has changed other than those nasty Tories have gained a massive majority ... Jeez , lay off it fella please ... Remember in your own hypocrite words you "dont give a toss about Brexit" ... Move on Says the person who just started a thread comparing the EU And that nice man Guy Verhofstad to the Nazis. I Was gonna point out the Irony of that tweet but frankly your right, I dont really give a toss and couldnt be arsed. I was however interested to hear what people thought about the massive cost of this sh1tfest (before we even leave). "I dont really give a toss and couldn't be arsed" ... Could you remember that in future please before you reply to most stuff ... Regards No of course not. We can't have you living in an echo chamber with just Dave Helmet telling each other how great Brexit is and sharing mocked up porn pictures of Priti vac*nt. I see she has now put extinction rebellion on the terrorist list. Barry'll enjoy this! :D From William Keegan's "In my view" column in yesterday's Observer. "Finally, a quiz question. Which newspaper declared on New Year’s Day 1973 – when we joined what became the EU – “EUROPE, HERE WE COME” adding that “for 10 years” it had “campaigned for this day” and that “we have not wavered in our conviction that Britain’s best and brightest future is in Europe”? Yes, you have got it in one: the Daily Mail. Funny old world." How times change! And here's another thing: https://tinyurl.com/wh5zhnu this time from 2015 on the theme of Brexit and its wisdom or otherwise. It is familiar, and rings true, albeit I had forgotten one or two bits. Read and marvel. Very interesting summary and points raised in that link! All would do well to read and reflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Not really sure what the conclusion is, we don’t know what would have happened if we had stayed out ,we don’t know what will happen in the future. To say we all knew where the eec was heading is a slight exaggeration as in those days the “plebs” didn’t know where it would end up. Joining the common market was a good idea. The rest......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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