Guest pelmetman Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 7:18 AM Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 2:57 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-24 9:19 AM Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 9:10 AM Well poll or no poll I guess we will find out soon enough. Lets face it, anyone who thinks Johnson has done a good job in the year he has been PM is in denial and needs urgent help. Brexit. A complete train wreck with the worst still to come. Covid. A complete train wreck with the worst still to come. Highest running total death rate in the world at one point The Economy, it tatters with the worst yet to come. Starmer just about every time in PMQ's shows Johnson up to be the incompetent buffoon he really is. Starmer really doesnt need to do much at all. So far he has played it brilliantly. Just keep feeding him his own rope. Slowly Johnsons own back benchers are turning on him now. I shouldnt make predictions apparently but it doesn't look good for Johnson long term. This is the problem you see with people like him who just feed you lie after lie after lie. It takes a while but eventually even those that are heavily invested in him will have to admit he is not fit to run a bath let alone a country. Really? ;-) .......... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election Looks to me that Boris has consistently polled at or above the 43%/44% with which he won the election B-) ......... Its the whimpy Liberals who keep flip flopping >:-) ........... I dunno why you keep posting that chart that shows how much the gap between Labour and The Tories has narrowed. (lol) I was posting about their leader anyway, Doris. His days are numbered. As I think are the Tories (see above) eventually but Doris wont last the Tories full term for sure I reckon. "but Doris wont last the full term for sure" ... I got a feeling thats guna be added to a very, very long list of bloopers from our resident political expert Barry ... Im guna go and chuck £100 on the opposite, its just about a nailed on guarantee to win How many times did 5 Belly's Barry tell us No Deal was dead? (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-25 8:20 AM BTW........Have you made your mind up which LOSER ship to jump aboard yet? (lol) (lol) (lol)........ says the LOSER who is LOSING all the money BoJo is sending to me in Scotland to maintain HIS empire at YOUR expense (lol) (lol) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 John52 - 2020-07-25 9:19 AM pelmetman - 2020-07-25 8:20 AM BTW........Have you made your mind up which LOSER ship to jump aboard yet? (lol) (lol) (lol)........ says the LOSER who is LOSING all the money BoJo is sending to me in Scotland to maintain HIS empire at YOUR expense (lol) (lol) (lol) Says the Sado Soul Seller who spends his filthy English Lucre mostly in England (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-25 8:20 AM Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 2:57 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-24 9:19 AM Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 9:10 AM Well poll or no poll I guess we will find out soon enough. Lets face it, anyone who thinks Johnson has done a good job in the year he has been PM is in denial and needs urgent help. Brexit. A complete train wreck with the worst still to come. Covid. A complete train wreck with the worst still to come. Highest running total death rate in the world at one point The Economy, it tatters with the worst yet to come. Starmer just about every time in PMQ's shows Johnson up to be the incompetent buffoon he really is. Starmer really doesnt need to do much at all. So far he has played it brilliantly. Just keep feeding him his own rope. Slowly Johnsons own back benchers are turning on him now. I shouldnt make predictions apparently but it doesn't look good for Johnson long term. This is the problem you see with people like him who just feed you lie after lie after lie. It takes a while but eventually even those that are heavily invested in him will have to admit he is not fit to run a bath let alone a country. Really? ;-) .......... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election Looks to me that Boris has consistently polled at or above the 43%/44% with which he won the election B-) ......... Its the whimpy Liberals who keep flip flopping >:-) ........... I dunno why you keep posting that chart that shows how much the gap between Labour and The Tories has narrowed. (lol) I was posting about their leader anyway, Doris. His days are numbered. As I think are the Tories (see above) eventually but Doris wont last the Tories full term for sure I reckon. I post it to PROVE that those who voted Tory in December haven't changed their minds despite your lies >:-) ........... The only folk that are flip flopping are the Loony Liberal Loser Brigade :D .......... BTW........Have you made your mind up which LOSER ship to jump aboard yet? (lol) (lol) (lol)........ Nope. The first priority is to get shot of Johnson. He is doing a good job of that on his own. Dont need to do anything. Look at how his popularity has already shot down and like I said the grumblings are starting from within his own party. His days are numbered. Unless of course as I say he pulls off some fantastic Brexit deal and everyone lives happily ever after and Covid free. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-25 8:20 AM Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 2:57 PM pelmetman - 2020-07-24 9:19 AM Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 9:10 AM Well poll or no poll I guess we will find out soon enough. Lets face it, anyone who thinks Johnson has done a good job in the year he has been PM is in denial and needs urgent help. Brexit. A complete train wreck with the worst still to come. Covid. A complete train wreck with the worst still to come. Highest running total death rate in the world at one point The Economy, it tatters with the worst yet to come. Starmer just about every time in PMQ's shows Johnson up to be the incompetent buffoon he really is. Starmer really doesnt need to do much at all. So far he has played it brilliantly. Just keep feeding him his own rope. Slowly Johnsons own back benchers are turning on him now. I shouldnt make predictions apparently but it doesn't look good for Johnson long term. This is the problem you see with people like him who just feed you lie after lie after lie. It takes a while but eventually even those that are heavily invested in him will have to admit he is not fit to run a bath let alone a country. Really? ;-) .......... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election Looks to me that Boris has consistently polled at or above the 43%/44% with which he won the election B-) ......... Its the whimpy Liberals who keep flip flopping >:-) ........... I dunno why you keep posting that chart that shows how much the gap between Labour and The Tories has narrowed. (lol) I was posting about their leader anyway, Doris. His days are numbered. As I think are the Tories (see above) eventually but Doris wont last the Tories full term for sure I reckon. I post it to PROVE that those who voted Tory in December haven't changed their minds despite your lies >:-) ........... It doesn't prove that at all. The only folk that are flip flopping are the Loony Liberal Loser Brigade :D .......... First your 'allegiance' was with "Sir" Nigel and UKIP, then the "Sainted" Theresa and the Tories, back to "Sir" Nigel with his paypal party, now it's Johnson, a bloke you didn't trust (is that why you haven't given him a title?). Looks like the one whose been doing all the flip-flopping is you. *-) BTW........Have you made your mind up which LOSER ship to jump aboard yet? (lol) (lol) (lol)........ Not the one you're drowning on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-07-25 6:16 PM First your 'allegiance' was with "Sir" Nigel and UKIP, then the "Sainted" Theresa and the Tories, back to "Sir" Nigel with his paypal party, now it's Johnson, a bloke you didn't trust (is that why you haven't given him a title?). Looks like the one whose been doing all the flip-flopping is you. *-) Yep us Brexit Buccaneers have taken back control of the Tories from the Limp Liberals B-) ........ Just as the Socialists are trying to wrestle the Labour party back from You Marxists ;-) ........ So best you get back to your swamp >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-23 1:04 PM Barryd999 - 2020-07-23 8:55 AM On R4 Today this morning reports that his own back benchers are running out of patience with him. Suddenly it seems the worm has turned and its now ok to be critical of the moron. Then just take a look at this. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/11/competent-likeable-decisive-keir-starmer-beating-boris-johnson-on-all-counts Thatcher a believe won her last election with an even bigger majority than Johnson and she was two years from having to call a GE and had a majority of 100 plus, but started slipping badly in the polls when the Poll Tax started going sour. She was dragged out in weeks screaming while her loyal membership wept. All the ingredients are there now I think and without doubt the party is brutal, there will be no shortages of Brutus' ready with their knives taking great pleasure in doing the deed. Johnson has a massive hill to climb to redeem himself. Not only does he have to get a grip on Coronavirus, the economy and Brexit. A lot of the new Tory MPs are very concerned. Those that were newly elected don't want a no deal. No deal was ruled out as a Brexit option because those new tory areas will be decimated by it. I think he is on the skids. Good job. It's all a bit sad, really. Fundamentally it seems the Conservative party has lost its marbles. Their current membership is a little under 200,000, and they have elected as leaders, in succession, Cameron, May, and Johnson. Hardly an impressive role call. Their party membership is predominantly over 60, instinctively conservative (small c :-)), London and south east based, middle class, male, white, Telegraph and Mail reading. Therein lies the problem. They like things as they are, and prefer unsettling things not to be mentioned. They occupy a cosy illusion about the nature of the country, and aren't too comfortable with the misleading nature of that illusion being pointed out. One might almost say they are complacent. All three recent leaders turned out to be shallow thinkers, more preoccupied with appearances than substance, with winning rather than what to do with the prize, and with a focus on the short term rather than on the longer term consequences of their actions. That suited the membership. Our problem is that with our electoral system we need them, but we need them to be led by true statesmen, not passing opportunists. The same can be said for Labour and the Lib Dems. The other parties are largely preoccupied with single objectives and, as with UKIP, are pretty much destined to die if/when that objective is reached. So, where have the statesmen all gone, or do I just have rose tinted memories of people who, having identified the national interest, set out to see it protected whether electorally popular or not, and to tell the electorate things they didn't want, but needed, to know? Excellent summary. I blame the UK media, mainly dominated by tax avoided billionaires, or the BBC which is effectively under the thumb of the Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-07-26 10:26 AM Bulletguy - 2020-07-25 6:16 PM First your 'allegiance' was with "Sir" Nigel and UKIP, then the "Sainted" Theresa and the Tories, back to "Sir" Nigel with his paypal party, now it's Johnson, a bloke you didn't trust (is that why you haven't given him a title?). Looks like the one whose been doing all the flip-flopping is you. *-) Yep us Brexit Buccaneers have taken back control of the Tories from the Limp Liberals B-) ........ Just as the Socialists are trying to wrestle the Labour party back from You Marxists ;-) ........ So best you get back to your swamp >:-) ......... Brexit Buccaneers!! FFS! (lol) Some wee came out there! I can think of several alternatives to "Buccaneers" but the forum sensor wont publish any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-07-23 1:04 PM So, where have the statesmen all gone, As I recall BoJo deselected what was left of them when they wouldn't follow his orders :-S I blame the media. Their turning Jimmy Savile into a star shows how much power they have got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 pepe63 - 2020-07-23 11:42 AM re: Rishi Sunak During those Covid briefings/updates he was the only one who came over genuine and competent (with mininal, if any, time-filling waffle). I don't pretend to understand the long term implications of the policies he has implemented,but he has certainly helped workers and businesses over the last few months.. ;-) Small business owner points out ' 'The government’s decision to give businesses a £1,000 bonus for each member of furloughed staff they still have on their books in January only rewards the biggest players for keeping on staff that they would have brought back anyway.' Reputable companies like Primark are refusing it What she needs is for (Tory supporting) landlords to reduce their rents like they are in other countries https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/01/cafe-london-small-businesses-survive-covid-19 But Rishi Sunak has his fingers in his ears https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/01/cafe-london-small-businesses-survive-covid-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 John52 - 2020-08-01 8:55 PM pepe63 - 2020-07-23 11:42 AM re: Rishi Sunak During those Covid briefings/updates he was the only one who came over genuine and competent (with mininal, if any, time-filling waffle). I don't pretend to understand the long term implications of the policies he has implemented,but he has certainly helped workers and businesses over the last few months.. ;-) Small business owner points out ' 'The government’s decision to give businesses a £1,000 bonus for each member of furloughed staff they still have on their books in January only rewards the biggest players for keeping on staff that they would have brought back anyway.' Reputable companies like Primark are refusing it What she needs is for (Tory supporting) landlords to reduce their rents like they are in other countries https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/01/cafe-london-small-businesses-survive-covid-19 But Rishi Sunak has his fingers in his ears https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/01/cafe-london-small-businesses-survive-covid-19 My brother did his first ever 100k of orders in a month.... last month B-) ......... There's a lot of businesses doing very well from all those folk who have been paid to do nothing for months ;-) ........... Which prolly explains why I'm struggling to get quotes for work :-| ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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