Looks like the EU are annoyed.........

[Brian Kirby]

pelmetman - 2021-11-03 11:39 AM.......................

1 I'd say its your Frog chums who need to calm down ;-) ..........

2 They're the ones issuing NASTY threats to turn the Leccy off to the Channel Islands, and disrupt trade along with preventing British fishing boats from landing their catch..... over just a few fishing licences *-) ...........

3 You 5th columnists can defend your EU bully's as much as you like........Joe public can see who are the real NASTY BULLY's >:-) .........

1 Yes just like you, they do tend to get a bit hyperbolic.

2 Agreed, but that is France, not the EU. You seem to struggle to understand the difference.

3 As above, this is France having a hissy fit, all on its own, and then turning to the EU for support because it has over-reached. To date, AFAIK, the EU hasn't replied or commented, so why bring them into it? I would imagine that the EU may be a bit annoyed and embarrassed by Castex's letter.

[John52]

Brian Kirby - 2021-11-03 11:07 AM

The actual stakes are minuscule - except for the owners of the boats - who number only a few dozen.

 

well the whole fishing industry is miniscule compared to the rest of the economy.

But it seems to have been used to fire up the Brexiteers

'take back control of our borders' etc *-)

with fishermen promised more than anyone?

 

[CurtainRaiser]

Brian Kirby - 2021-11-02 6:53 PM

 

Thanks for that, who'd have thought it? :-D BTW, on a different subject, but if you missed last night's Channel 4 "Dispatches" programme - "How Green is the Government?" - you may find it interesting, you can catch it on All 4.

 

Thanks for that Brian. A fascinating if somewhat depressing watch, I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that the government is trying to curtail the actions of both Ch4 and the Courts.

[malc d]

pelmetman - 2021-11-03 11:39 AM

 

Brian Kirby - 2021-11-03 11:07 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-11-03 10:07 AM.............................

What?........The Remoaner biased Indendent being lazy 8-) .........

The truth is that the EU bottom lickers have realised that Castex's letter shows the EU's NASTY side, so are back pedaling for all their worth >:-) ................

Calm down, Dave! :-) How good is your French? Have you a good working command of any other foreign language? Do you realise that translation from one language to another involves not just translating each word at a time, literally, but translating the sense of what is said - so that it represents what a native speaker of the other language would normally say and understand? It is more art than science, and the result is almost always open to question.

 

What Castex's letter actually says is that the UK should stick to the terms of the agreement it has negotiated (and that France would like the support of the EU to that end), and that this should be demonstrated to EU public opinion so that they can see the UK is not being allowed to get away with playing fast and loose with the rules.

 

So no, not punished, but simply held to the terms of the agreement, which France claims we are not properly observing. OTOH, we say we think we are. So, someone (and possibly both), somewhere, is wrong.

 

It currently seems possible that the French negotiators (and possibly those from the UK) hadn't realised that the smaller fishing boats aren't equipped with GPS (mainly because they didn't need to be) and so don't have records they can produce to prove where they have been, and when. Hence we are saying they haven't established their "grandfather" fishing rights, and they are saying they can't, but in fairness alternative means should be accepted within the spirit of the agreement. Its pointless going all paranoid about it. The actual stakes are minuscule - except for the owners of the boats - who number only a few dozen.

 

I'd say its your Frog chums who need to calm down ;-) ..........

 

They're the ones issuing NASTY threats to turn the Leccy off to the Channel Islands, and disrupt trade along with preventing British fishing boats from landing their catch..... over just a few fishing licences *-) ...........

 

You 5th columnists can defend your EU bully's as much as you like........Joe public can see who are the real NASTY BULLY's >:-) .........

 

 

 

What makes you think that Brian is a 5th columnist Dave ?

 

;-) (?)

[Bulletguy]

John52 - 2021-11-03 9:55 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-11-02 9:22 PM

.makes you wonder what we left for? Oh yes of course, sovrunty, Ingerleesh passports, Ingerleesh fish, and errmm, errrm, err oh yeah, takin' back control innit. :-S

 

.. and the British 3 pin 13amp plugs ;-)

People were daft enough to fall for it - but why were they fed all that sh!te in the first place?

The gullible and not so bright were easy to feed and swallowed junk like that. Look at the two Baboons we have on here forever jumping up and down in their cage. *-)

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obriens-brexit-top-10-three-pin-plugs/

[Barryd999]

Bulletguy - 2021-11-03 5:01 PM

 

John52 - 2021-11-03 9:55 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-11-02 9:22 PM

.makes you wonder what we left for? Oh yes of course, sovrunty, Ingerleesh passports, Ingerleesh fish, and errmm, errrm, err oh yeah, takin' back control innit. :-S

 

.. and the British 3 pin 13amp plugs ;-)

People were daft enough to fall for it - but why were they fed all that sh!te in the first place?

The gullible and not so bright were easy to feed and swallowed junk like that. Look at the two Baboons we have on here forever jumping up and down in their cage. *-)

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obriens-brexit-top-10-three-pin-plugs/

 

I know its wrong to say Brexiteers are thick but come on! (lol) Is he from Weymouth by any chance? (lol)

[Bulletguy]

John52 - 2021-11-03 12:13 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2021-11-03 11:07 AM

The actual stakes are minuscule - except for the owners of the boats - who number only a few dozen.

 

well the whole fishing industry is miniscule compared to the rest of the economy.

But it seems to have been used to fire up the Brexiteers

'take back control of our borders' etc *-)

with fishermen promised more than anyone?

When Johnson threw the fishing industry under the Brexit bus neither of the twins uttered as much as a pip squeak, but because France has impounded a Brit trawler Mr SHOUTY SHOUTY has gone into meltdown. *-)

[Bulletguy]

Barryd999 - 2021-11-03 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-11-03 5:01 PM

 

John52 - 2021-11-03 9:55 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-11-02 9:22 PM

.makes you wonder what we left for? Oh yes of course, sovrunty, Ingerleesh passports, Ingerleesh fish, and errmm, errrm, err oh yeah, takin' back control innit. :-S

 

.. and the British 3 pin 13amp plugs ;-)

People were daft enough to fall for it - but why were they fed all that sh!te in the first place?

The gullible and not so bright were easy to feed and swallowed junk like that. Look at the two Baboons we have on here forever jumping up and down in their cage. *-)

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obriens-brexit-top-10-three-pin-plugs/

 

I know its wrong to say Brexiteers are thick but come on! (lol) Is he from Weymouth by any chance? (lol)

No it's not wrong.....they need to be called out for what they are.

[Bulletguy]

Brian Kirby - 2021-11-02 6:53 PM

 

Thanks for that, who'd have thought it? :-D BTW, on a different subject, but if you missed last night's Channel 4 "Dispatches" programme - "How Green is the Government?" - you may find it interesting, you can catch it on All 4.

Turbine foundations made in and shipped from China and UAE....towers made in Denmark.....for a wind farm owned by France!! This "taking back control" lark isn't going too well is it? (lol)(lol)

 

This was a good watch about green hydrogen (DW do some really excellent documentaries). The chap with the hydrogen car is interesting. Not cheap, but he uses it daily and drives long distances.