rooster63 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Although I have a fairly good understanding of the various weight descriptions eg MRO, payload I am a little bit confused by the 2 plates fixed to my Fiat Ducato based Timberland PVC The original Fiat plate says: 3500kg 6000kg 1 - 1850kg 2 - 2000kg My understanding is that the 3500kg is the maximum weight when fully laden with the maximum weight for the front being 1850kg and 2000kg for the rear. What does the 6000kg represent There is a 2nd plate which says Motorhome 2nd Stage Build which has the same figures. Is my van plated at 3500kg or is it higher which I believe has implications for when I turn 70. I passed my test in 1971 so have the luxury of being able to drive more categories st the moment. Amended as I can’t delete this post. Have realised the 6000kg refers to if I am towing, and the fact the 2 separate axle weights adding up to more than 3500kg is irrelevant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 rooster63 - 2022-04-22 12:19 PM Although I have a fairly good understanding of the various weight descriptions eg MRO, payload I am a little bit confused by the 2 plates fixed to my Fiat Ducato based Timberland PVC The original Fiat plate says: 3500kg 6000kg 1 - 1850kg 2 - 2000kg My understanding is that the 3500kg is the maximum weight when fully laden with the maximum weight for the front being 1850kg and 2000kg for the rear. What does the 6000kg represent That is the Gross train Weight (GTW) which is the maximum permissible weight of the MH plus any trailer. rooster63 - 2022-04-22 12:19 PM There is a 2nd plate which says Motorhome 2nd Stage Build which has the same figures. Is my van plated at 3500kg or is it higher which I believe has implications for when I turn 70. I passed my tear in 1971 so have the luxury of being able to drive more categories st the moment. Yes your MH is plated to 3,500 kg so is a Private Light Goods vehicle (PLG) and you should be paying something around £260 (iirc) per year road tax and you do not require class C1 to drive it. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster63 Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 Thanks Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Much of the difficulty comes from the different terms (and contractions) that are currently used in the UK i(and have been used historically) where vehicle weights are concerned. For example, this gov.uk link https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-weights-explained refers to Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) and Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW), whereas this link https://www.hortoncommon.co.uk/motorhome-weight-plates-explained/ uses the term Maximum Technically Permissible Laden Mass (MTPLM) as well as MAM and GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) And then there's Mass in Running Order (MIRO), which is not the same as Unladen Weight that (in the UK) affects a motorhome's speed limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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