ian81 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Many years ago had a problem with a new bottle. It was overfilled so the gas had no room to turn from liquid to gas. Opening the bottle valve and allowing some to escape solved the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 Once again thanks for all advice. We will check regulator tomorrow and check level of gas In bottle. I was given an excellent tip from Calor to check level of gas. So will try that too. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Not much use away from home, unless you carry your bathroom scales, but digital bathroom scales are good for getting a reasonable idea of gas content. Every gas bottle has the 'tare' or empty bottle weight stamped on it and it is simple maths to deuct this from the total bottle weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 If no suitable scales are available, a time-honoured alternative ploy is shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Vy_D6uGM0&ab_channel=ArgosSupport (Obviously - if the 'water' method is to be used - common sense dictates that the gas bottle will first need to be removed from the motorhome's gas-locker. 😺) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Tracker said: Not much use away from home, unless you carry your bathroom scales, but digital bathroom scales are good for getting a reasonable idea of gas content. Every gas bottle has the 'tare' or empty bottle weight stamped on it and it is simple maths to deduct this from the total bottle weight. I use a cheap spring balance luggage scale to weigh my cylinders. Like these which cost less than a fiver https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolson-Tools-60671-Luggage-Scales/dp/B003KGARK4/ But note that the tare weight of Calor cylinders is stamped in pounds and ounces and so needs converting to kilogrammes to calculate the weight of gas remaining. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcywick Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I had gas supply problems and blamed the regulator, changing the gas pigtail ( which was still in date)cured the problem. can only think there was some sort of blockage in the hose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Good point about pigtails. Easily tested by a good blow through! Some pigtails have a fine particle filter built in which can become blocked and when this happened to us in Norway I just stuck a sharp object through it, blew it through with a footpump and carried on regardless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weldted Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 If you cannot use the heater whilst the van is in motion then you will not have a crash-safe regulator just a standard one if it is 2003 its a bit early for that type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Sandie's Bessacarr E410 is 2005-registered and UK-built motorhomes began to be fitted with 30mbar bulkhead-mounted gas regulators as standard in late-2003. The 'basic' regulator normally installed was a Truma-GOK product an example of which is shown in the 1st attachment below. (This is the regulator Sandie's motohome has.) To allow a suitably-certificated gas heater to be operated in a moving vehicle in countries that had regulations forbidding this practice (eg. France) a 'safety' system needed to provided, which led to the follow-on Truma "SecuMotion" arrangement shown in the 2nd attachment. This had sever-protection in the gas pigtail (with a green 'setting' push-button) and an anti-leakage gas-flow-sensing regulator carrying a green push-button. For optimum protection "SecuMotion" regulators needed to be matched to a leisure-vehicle's normal maximum gas-flow and to avoid this complication Truma 'crash sensor' regulators were introduced (example in 3rd attachment) - though the anti-sever gas-pigtail with the green push-button was still required. I bought a Hobby motorhome in 2005. The 1st Truma-GOK bulkhead-mounted gas regulator failed (blocked) within 12 months and the 2nd one similarly failed a year later. The 3rd regulator survived until I sold the vehicle in 2014. This 2007 NCC article may be of interest https://www.outdoorbits.com/Brochures/Gas_Regulator_Blockages.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiff2110 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Did you solve your lack of gas problem? I bought a E460 2008 model and when to Snetterton for a weekends racing, only to find I could not get my oven or gas rings to work, after a weekend no cooking when I got home an called a gas man he found that I wasn’t opening the gas rings cover sufficiently (the lid on top) as it has a safety cut off. He opened the lid and it all worked fine. And nothing mentioned in the handbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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