Tomo3090 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 BGD, Well written and an excellent argument that I personally think is spot on. The thing called faith is just that, faith. The believers out there won't become disbelievers because they will never accept a rational argument no matter what evidence is put. Because they have faith! I have tried to ask these and other questions to people of religeon when they come to my door. It sometimes amazes me that THEY are the ones who get upset when I don't see their point of view. I can't tell you the number of times I've been told I'm going to go to hell. They don't get it when I say I ain't bothered because I don't see that as a threat because I don't believe in it! The more questioning among us just have to keep plugging away and have a differing faith, one that hopes that common sense will rule one day! Keep the faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 With all due respect to you pair this thread is all about avatars, so could we dispense with your views on religion and stick to the original subject. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Too deep man ....cool it . back to Avatars PLease :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo3090 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 sorry peeps! :$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Shame - I thought they were very balanced views. Start a new thread with it (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Ah sorry peeps. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 J9withdogs - 2007-10-03 7:02 PM Shame - I thought they were very balanced views. But they didn,t go along with my views so we knocked it on the head Jan. :-> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Oh the joys of living in a demoracy (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Whats a demoracy Jan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 It's like a democracy, but slightly different :$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crinklystarfish Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 howie - 2007-10-03 12:44 PM But how can you be so sure that its not you thats "misguided". Some of our greatest scientists hold strong Christian beliefs, and as your avatar makes the statement only your view is the right one then are you saying we should discount any other opinions that might in any way contradict yours. Hi Howie, I’ve just come back in and I sense a bit of swerving. I will respect your wishes to stay with the avatar theme, but please allow me to answer your quote. I’m as sure as it is ever possible to be. The evidence is in and there is absolutely no tangible support for any creationist theory. I’d challenge you to name a credible contemporary ‘great’ scientist who holds any “strong Christian belief”.It’s a leap indeed to claim “…and as your avatar makes the statement only your view is the right one then are you saying we should discount any other opinions that might in any way contradict yours”. How on earth do you arrive at that? I post under it because it’s what I believe. People are free to decide what they believe, I don’t care. They are welcome to their opinions. As I said earlier, it’s probably a very good thing many people buy into ‘faith’. It is undoubtedly a rock for many. It is however just that; faith. It is a creation of humankind. My avatar represents my belief, I am happy to use it and make no apology for creating a bit of stimulation for critical thought. I’m pulling my head in at this point, I was going to tell the story of Eric the inter-galactic ice cream god, but really do respect your wish not to hijack the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 this is the winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGD Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 It was suggested that we start a new thread for all this creationism v evolution and faith v science nonsense, to allow this avatar thread to continue unpolluted...........so I just have. Intellectually critically important stuff on avatars goes in here; and shallow chit-chatter on the other unimportant stuff goes in the other thread. Right, off you go and play............. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 crinklystarfish - 2007-10-03 8:13 PM Howie,’d challenge you to name a credible contemporary ‘great’ scientist who holds any “strong Christian belief”.Hi Steve. Sorry to edit so much of your post but I thought this might interest you. Charles Darwin, member of the Anglican Unitarion Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Do what you like with the thread I dont care :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 BGD - 2007-10-03 9:25 PM It was suggested that we start a new thread for all this creationism v evolution and faith v science nonsense, to allow this avatar thread to continue unpolluted...........so I just have. Intellectually critically important stuff on avatars goes in here; and shallow chit-chatter on the other unimportant stuff goes in the other thread. Right, off you go and play............. B-)Interesting that last comment Bruce, and nice to know what you really think of us. Sorry we don,t come up to to your own high standards of intellect, but there we are, just a bunch of motorhomers enjoying ourselves, and i,m sure if you look hard enough you,ll find other forums that will exercise and stimulate that fine mind of yours. Crinklefish. As usual I cocked the editing up on my reply to you for which I apologise. You asked me to name a Christian scientist and I gave you Charles Darwin. Just a observation and not a prelude to a argument Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGD Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hey - come on Howie - you know (or I hope you know) that just ain't the case. I was using that quintissentally English trait of irony, nothing more. (Hot tip: read almost everything I write with tongue formly in cheek) Dunno if there's some hidden agenda that I've missed picking up on, but as the song says "Girls just wanna have fun". Lo siento, mi falta. Cheers, Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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