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low emission zones and payloads...buying a MH


Kahloflow

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Hi there...we are in the process of buying a MH.

Moving from a historic type 2 VW which we didn't travel abroad in.

Looking to buy a 2.8 HDi Ravenna Peugeot base .....the layout we have decided after much research that best meets our needs . Put down a deposit. ..it's going through its MOT and Habitation check and we are taking our mechanic long to check it out. A very different beast to the air cooled engine that we know more about 8-)

 

Hoping to travel in Europe for up to a month at a time

2 adults , 2 bikes lol

 

This is the first time LEZ'S and payloads have really come into our point of reference

And trying to get our head round it atm.

 

A steep and rapid learning curve ahead as we were really only at a point of checking it out re the layout...which we have now definetly decided on ) when we went to view ...not expecting to find one to buy.

 

So what's the score on LEZ's. ...how will we know what emission std this Ravenna will meet and is it likely to be very restrictive on where we can visit?

 

And re payloads...what kind of limits are we looking at with the Ravenna?

 

 

Any help much appreciated. . ..crash course comencing lol

 

 

 

 

 

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Kahloflow - 2016-09-14 1:06 PM.................................And re payloads...what kind of limits are we looking at with the Ravenna? ...........................

Three limits, the gross vehicle weight (GVW), the front axle limit, and the rear axle limit. All three are stated on the vehicle's VIN plate. The total of the two axle maxima will exceed the vehicle's GVW. This is not a mistake: it is to allow for differing distribution of load within the vehicle.

 

How much payload you will have in respect of each limit can only be determined by having the vehicle weighed at a weighbridge. However, it is essential that you know in exactly what state it was weighed.

 

Ideally, this would be done with the fuel tank brimmed, all other reservoirs completely empty, and with no gas cylinder on board. Any loose equipment present, if useful and likely to travel with you, could be left in, but should be located where it would usually travel. You will then need to estimate how much load you think you may add, and then do a calculation as to how this may be distributed within the van.

 

If you split your load by where you think you'll carry it, and note how far in front of/to the rear of the rear axle that will be, you can work out whether you have sufficient payload overall, and whether either axle is at risk of overload. Estimated load + weighbridge figure for the whole vehicle is easy.

 

For the axles, you need to note the wheelbase of the vehicle, and then divide the load between the two axles in proportion to its position between the axles. You also need to know the capacity of, and position of, the fresh and waste water tanks, and the position, and max cylinder size for, the gas locker. (Water weighs 1kg per litre)

 

So, a load half way between the axles would divide 50/50 front and rear, and a load 25% of wheelbase toward the rear axle will divide 75% rear and 25% front, and so on. For loads behind the rear axle calculate load x distance to rear axle, add this to the weight of the load, and then deduct the same figure from the load on the front axle (bit like weights on a see-saw). Do this for all loads, totalling for each axle as you go, and you'll have a rough idea of whether you are in danger of overloading wither axle.

 

Otherwise, you'll just have to make an educated guess! :-) Good luck whichever approach you adopt.

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Kahloflow - 2016-09-14 1:06 PM

 

Hi there...we are in the process of buying a MH.

 

Looking to buy a 2.8 HDi Ravenna Peugeot base ...

 

So what's the score on LEZ's. ...how will we know what emission std this Ravenna will meet and is it likely to be very restrictive on where we can visit?

 

 

Hi,

 

From your other post about this Ravenna you say it is a 2001 so will be to a very low emissions standard, possibly Euro III but I do doubt it as it seems 2003 models where billed as being Euro III?

 

This level of emissions standard is unlikely to get you a pass into any European city!

 

Your best bet will be to steer clear of emissions zones and take public transport into cities if you do want to visit.

 

And don't even think of trying to take it in London!!! The LEZ will sting you at least a hundred pounds a DAY!!!

 

Keith.

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