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leighc777

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I have an Autocruise Valentine 2001 where the spare wheel is on a carrier on the rear wall of the motorhome where the three wheel studs are welded onto the plate attached to the rear wall.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it is possible to get a locking wheel nut (and if so, where I might be able to buy such an item)?

Leigh

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leighc777 - 2017-03-09 6:58 PM

 

Robert

Just wanted to check if you really mean NUT - all I want is a nut i.e. without the stud as the stud on my rear wheel carrier is welded to the base plate on the rear wall.

Leigh

 

Yep, nuts available either as a set or individually. Try this http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?srch=Locking+wheel+nut&action=search&storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&langId=-1

 

Robert

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Leigh,

 

Conventional locking wheel nuts are not very secure, most can be removed with an 'Gator-Grip' style socket. See picture for example.

 

You may be better off with a good quality padlock and chain or motorcycle chain through a part of the mounting plate. You may need to get an 'eye' welded on to the mounting to lock the wheel to.

 

Keith.

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4x4s often carry a rear-mounted spare wheel and this discussion relates to securing one on Land Rovers

 

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/how-do-you-secure-the-spare-wheel-on-the-back-door.215430/

 

As Keithl has said, the chain/padlock approach may be better.

 

(Can one buy an individual locking-wheel nut? They are normally sold in sets of four and (obviously) a matching ‘key’ would be needed even if only one nut were required. Having said that, buying a set of four locking nuts + key and fitting three of them to the studs on the carrying-plate should be a pretty fair discouragent for an opportunist thief.!)

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Keithl - 2017-03-09 7:14 PM

 

Leigh,

 

Conventional locking wheel nuts are not very secure, most can be removed with an 'Gator-Grip' style socket. See picture for example.

 

You may be better off with a good quality padlock and chain or motorcycle chain through a part of the mounting plate. You may need to get an 'eye' welded on to the mounting to lock the wheel to.

 

Keith.

 

I went for the padlock and cable plus locking nut route for my replacement wheel. The surprising thing was that the thieves replaced the cradle and the securing nut so it wasn't immediately obvious the wheel had gone. I am pretty sure when and where it was taken and I had been driving around for a good few days with no spare.

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Bearing in mind the Gator thingy, a locking nut (they are available singly) would need to be one with a key like you can buy for boats.

 

It really is simply to deter an opportunistic thief as a determined one with time will defeat most systems.

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As it says on the image in Keith’s posting, “Gator Grip” sockets are intended to be ‘universal’, so one socket can replace several - but unless a locking wheel-nut has external ‘faces', a Gator Grip socket is unlikely to be effective.

 

A Gator Grip-type socket could (probably) remove this design of locking wheel-nut

 

http://tinyurl.com/hkp99q5

 

but (probably) not this one

 

http://tinyurl.com/jkdhr2d

 

This link may be of interest

 

http://www.jamesandtracy.co.uk/howto/locking_wheel_nut_removal.htm

 

(Are you sure about it being possible to buy a single locking wheel-nut? I could not find any supplier advertising this and (as I said earlier) as an appropriate ‘key’ to tighten/undo the nut would also be required, I can’t see there being much demand. Perhaps you could provide a link to a supplier?)

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I bought a used Honda about a year ago and discovered that there was no locking nut removal tool when I took the car to a tyre place after a "deflation warning" light appeared. The slow puncture wasn't critical so as a temporary measure they put some air in to give me time to get a replacement removal tool.

 

I drove to a Honda dealer who used their set of removal tools to identify which one was mine (it was the next to the last of about 40 they tried) ordered a replacement for me and posted it to my home.  Total cost was only £13 odd.

 

Other manufacturers may charge considerably more.

 

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