Guest pelmetman Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 John52 - 2018-11-20 6:16 PM Your feet must be full of holes by now (lol) Nope......Your argument is >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-11-20 6:24 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 5:47 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:39 PM Have you got a link for where Corbyn said 'Even if he did get in we'd be leaving the EU *-) Yeah...... like he's in control of anything non Palestinian or IRA:D ........ I'm almost feeling sorry for the poor old sod :-| ....... He's obviously been promoted far above his pay grade for a reason ;-) .......... Judging by all that waffle and changing the subject I guess the answer is No? *-) We are talking politicians *-) ........Is the answer ever "Yes" or "No" :D ........ I prefer to base my vote on recent political history ;-) ............. Socialists = Debt Socialists = Communism Socialists = Nazi's Socialists = Fascism Roll the dice folk and see which version you get next >:-) .......... My bets Communist :D ......... How many bottles have you sunk today to post this rubbish? *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 6:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 6:24 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 5:47 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:39 PM Have you got a link for where Corbyn said 'Even if he did get in we'd be leaving the EU *-) Yeah...... like he's in control of anything non Palestinian or IRA:D ........ I'm almost feeling sorry for the poor old sod :-| ....... He's obviously been promoted far above his pay grade for a reason ;-) .......... Judging by all that waffle and changing the subject I guess the answer is No? *-) We are talking politicians *-) ........Is the answer ever "Yes" or "No" :D ........ I prefer to base my vote on recent political history ;-) ............. Socialists = Debt Socialists = Communism Socialists = Nazi's Socialists = Fascism Roll the dice folk and see which version you get next >:-) .......... My bets Communist :D ......... How many bottles have you sunk today to post this rubbish? *-) Oh dear Bullet........cant you destroy my argument with HISTORICAL FACT? >:-) ........ Dam that's awkward :D ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-11-20 7:05 PM Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 6:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 6:24 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 5:47 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:39 PM Have you got a link for where Corbyn said 'Even if he did get in we'd be leaving the EU *-) Yeah...... like he's in control of anything non Palestinian or IRA:D ........ I'm almost feeling sorry for the poor old sod :-| ....... He's obviously been promoted far above his pay grade for a reason ;-) .......... Judging by all that waffle and changing the subject I guess the answer is No? *-) We are talking politicians *-) ........Is the answer ever "Yes" or "No" :D ........ I prefer to base my vote on recent political history ;-) ............. Socialists = Debt Socialists = Communism Socialists = Nazi's Socialists = Fascism Roll the dice folk and see which version you get next >:-) .......... My bets Communist :D ......... How many bottles have you sunk today to post this rubbish? *-) Oh dear Bullet........cant you destroy my argument with HISTORICAL FACT? >:-) ........ Dam that's awkward :D ...... Your argument is just that, a baseless 'argument' for the sake of it. Your pal will play with you for another hour of willy waving together before you run off to bed. As for 'historical fact' i've shown you many before but it's totally wasted on you as you have no grasp of even the most basic facts. I don't think you're a revisionist as you don't understand the true meaning of it just as you can't distinguish between left and right...in fact i'd be amazed if you knew which side of the road to drive on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 8:07 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 7:05 PM Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 6:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 6:24 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 5:47 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:39 PM Have you got a link for where Corbyn said 'Even if he did get in we'd be leaving the EU *-) Yeah...... like he's in control of anything non Palestinian or IRA:D ........ I'm almost feeling sorry for the poor old sod :-| ....... He's obviously been promoted far above his pay grade for a reason ;-) .......... Judging by all that waffle and changing the subject I guess the answer is No? *-) We are talking politicians *-) ........Is the answer ever "Yes" or "No" :D ........ I prefer to base my vote on recent political history ;-) ............. Socialists = Debt Socialists = Communism Socialists = Nazi's Socialists = Fascism Roll the dice folk and see which version you get next >:-) .......... My bets Communist :D ......... How many bottles have you sunk today to post this rubbish? *-) Oh dear Bullet........cant you destroy my argument with HISTORICAL FACT? >:-) ........ Dam that's awkward :D ...... Your argument is just that, a baseless 'argument' for the sake of it. Your pal will play with you for another hour of willy waving together before you run off to bed. As for 'historical fact' i've shown you many before but it's totally wasted on you as you have no grasp of even the most basic facts. I don't think you're a revisionist as you don't understand the true meaning of it just as you can't distinguish between left and right...in fact i'd be amazed if you knew which side of the road to drive on. Its based on history Sunshine ;-) ........PROVE ME WRONG >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 8:07 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 7:05 PM Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 6:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 6:24 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 5:47 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:39 PM Have you got a link for where Corbyn said 'Even if he did get in we'd be leaving the EU *-) Yeah...... like he's in control of anything non Palestinian or IRA:D ........ I'm almost feeling sorry for the poor old sod :-| ....... He's obviously been promoted far above his pay grade for a reason ;-) .......... Judging by all that waffle and changing the subject I guess the answer is No? *-) We are talking politicians *-) ........Is the answer ever "Yes" or "No" :D ........ I prefer to base my vote on recent political history ;-) ............. Socialists = Debt Socialists = Communism Socialists = Nazi's Socialists = Fascism Roll the dice folk and see which version you get next >:-) .......... My bets Communist :D ......... How many bottles have you sunk today to post this rubbish? *-) Oh dear Bullet........cant you destroy my argument with HISTORICAL FACT? >:-) ........ Dam that's awkward :D ...... Your argument is just that, a baseless 'argument' for the sake of it. Your pal will play with you for another hour of willy waving together before you run off to bed. As for 'historical fact' i've shown you many before but it's totally wasted on you as you have no grasp of even the most basic facts. I don't think you're a revisionist as you don't understand the true meaning of it just as you can't distinguish between left and right...in fact i'd be amazed if you knew which side of the road to drive on. Interesting ... Both you and your new comedy genius buddy have a thing for male members on ere ... You with your "willy waving" and Roger De Courcey with his bendy bananas sneaking up behind and then his big Polish sausage ... Romance , ya cant beat it xxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-11-20 8:21 PM Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 8:07 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 7:05 PM Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 6:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 6:24 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:57 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 5:47 PM John52 - 2018-11-20 5:39 PM Have you got a link for where Corbyn said 'Even if he did get in we'd be leaving the EU *-) Yeah...... like he's in control of anything non Palestinian or IRA:D ........ I'm almost feeling sorry for the poor old sod :-| ....... He's obviously been promoted far above his pay grade for a reason ;-) .......... Judging by all that waffle and changing the subject I guess the answer is No? *-) We are talking politicians *-) ........Is the answer ever "Yes" or "No" :D ........ I prefer to base my vote on recent political history ;-) ............. Socialists = Debt Socialists = Communism Socialists = Nazi's Socialists = Fascism Roll the dice folk and see which version you get next >:-) .......... My bets Communist :D ......... How many bottles have you sunk today to post this rubbish? *-) Oh dear Bullet........cant you destroy my argument with HISTORICAL FACT? >:-) ........ Dam that's awkward :D ...... Your argument is just that, a baseless 'argument' for the sake of it. Your pal will play with you for another hour of willy waving together before you run off to bed. As for 'historical fact' i've shown you many before but it's totally wasted on you as you have no grasp of even the most basic facts. I don't think you're a revisionist as you don't understand the true meaning of it just as you can't distinguish between left and right...in fact i'd be amazed if you knew which side of the road to drive on. Interesting ... Both you and your new comedy genius buddy have a thing for male members on ere ... You with your "willy waving" and Roger De Courcey with his bendy bananas sneaking up behind and then his big Polish sausage ... Romance , ya cant beat it xxxx Don't forget the Nun's in Rubber :D ........ Strange folk these lefties 8-) ........ I better learn to walk with my buttocks clenched whilst Blatherin is around ;-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul- Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I've just heard that some mp has bought 2 water cannons very cheaply to cool his ducks in the next hot summer, I don't know who he could be or how much he paid or even if he'll claim on his expenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Paul- - 2018-11-20 8:48 PM I've just heard that some mp has bought 2 water cannons very cheaply to cool his ducks in the next hot summer, I don't know who he could be or how much he paid or even if he'll claim on his expenses Has Corbyn got ducks? ;-) ........ Come to think of it he's got a lot of wets though :-| ........ Maybe's he's prepping for another heat wave :D ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 Paul- - 2018-11-20 8:48 PM I've just heard that some mp has bought 2 water cannons very cheaply to cool his ducks in the next hot summer, I don't know who he could be or how much he paid or even if he'll claim on his expenses. Rees Mogg whose been building Moggs Ark for his Little Englanders. It's rumoured he's purchased a hole in the ground he plans to fill with water to float his Ark, fill with a few goldfish for his fishing policy, hoist a St George flag, then sit there looking like errr......a Mugg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-11-20 9:45 PM Paul- - 2018-11-20 8:48 PM I've just heard that some mp has bought 2 water cannons very cheaply to cool his ducks in the next hot summer, I don't know who he could be or how much he paid or even if he'll claim on his expenses. Rees Mogg whose been building Moggs Ark for his Little Englanders. It's rumoured he's purchased a hole in the ground he plans to fill with water to float his Ark, fill with a few goldfish for his fishing policy, hoist a St George flag, then sit there looking like errr......a Mugg. Oh so bitter Bullet :D ........Cant imagine what you'll be like in a 129 days time 8-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-11-20 8:15 PM Socialists = Debt Its based on history Sunshine ;-) ........PROVE ME WRONG >:-) ....... Easy :D http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 John52 - 2018-11-21 4:26 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 8:15 PM Socialists = Debt Its based on history Sunshine ;-) ........PROVE ME WRONG >:-) ....... Easy :D http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/ Well Pelmethead.......nothing to say???? (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 This link to UK finances does without the dramatisation and, like all statistics, can be interpreted any way the user sees fit, depending on their own lack of impartialty and political beliefs. https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/ My conclusion is that all recent governments have been stupendously inept and that if we as a nation want decent services then sooner or later someone has to pay for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 Tracker - 2018-11-21 7:45 PM This link to UK finances does without the dramatisation and, like all statistics, can be interpreted any way the user sees fit, depending on their own lack of impartialty and political beliefs. https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/ My conclusion is that all recent governments have been stupendously inept and that if we as a nation want decent services then sooner or later someone has to pay for them. Unfortunately all the figures in red on that link are indicated as 'guesstimates'. ONS website states; General government gross debt was £1,720.1 billion at the end of the financial year ending March 2017, equivalent to 88.0% of gross domestic product (GDP), an increase of £68.1 billion compared with the end of March 2016 (when it was 87.6% of GDP). This is the 15th consecutive annual increase in debt as a proportion of GDP. General government gross debt first exceeded the 60.0% Maastricht reference value at the end of the financial year ending March 2010, when it was 70.3% of GDP or £1,076.6 billion. At the end of the calendar year 2016, UK government gross debt was £1,731.4 billion (89.3% of GDP). This represents an increase of £65.4 billion since the end of the calendar year 2015. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicspending/bulletins/ukgovernmentdebtanddeficitforeurostatmaast/jantomar2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Tracker - 2018-11-21 7:45 PM like all statistics, can be interpreted any way the user sees fit, depending on their own lack of impartialty and political beliefs. Yes indeed. By intervening in the housing market to force up rents, making most people worse off, the Government claims an increase in GDP and Growth *-) The most telling economic statistic is the Current Account Deficit. So they don't like to talk about it and prefer to talk about so-called 'Growth' instead *-) Problem is that instead of productive industrial Growth like Germany, their Growth comes from flipping each other crummy houses and racking up debt. Which is why Germany has a massive surplus, and Britain a massive deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-11-21 7:04 PM John52 - 2018-11-21 4:26 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 8:15 PM Socialists = Debt Its based on history Sunshine ;-) ........PROVE ME WRONG >:-) ....... Easy :D http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/ Well Pelmethead.......nothing to say???? (lol) Probably still bandaging his foot :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 John52 - 2018-11-22 7:12 AM Bulletguy - 2018-11-21 7:04 PM John52 - 2018-11-21 4:26 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 8:15 PM Socialists = Debt Its based on history Sunshine ;-) ........PROVE ME WRONG >:-) ....... Easy :D http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/ Well Pelmethead.......nothing to say???? (lol) Probably still bandaging his foot :D National debt increased because of the financial crisis that happened whilst Labour was asleep at the wheel ;-) ............ Oh......and there was no money left *-) .........have you forgotten about that note? >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 John52 - 2018-11-22 7:09 AM Tracker - 2018-11-21 7:45 PM like all statistics, can be interpreted any way the user sees fit, depending on their own lack of impartialty and political beliefs. Yes indeed. By intervening in the housing market to force up rents, making most people worse off, the Government claims an increase in GDP and Growth *-) The most telling economic statistic is the Current Account Deficit. So they don't like to talk about it and prefer to talk about so-called 'Growth' instead *-) Problem is that instead of productive industrial Growth like Germany, their Growth comes from flipping each other crummy houses and racking up debt. Which is why Germany has a massive surplus, and Britain a massive deficit. Germany has a massive surplus because the euro works in their favour.......German products would be extortionate without it *-) .......... https://www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2018/01/23/the-german-swindle-built-into-the-euro/#175c861d27da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-11-22 7:35 AM John52 - 2018-11-22 7:12 AM Bulletguy - 2018-11-21 7:04 PM John52 - 2018-11-21 4:26 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-20 8:15 PM Socialists = Debt Its based on history Sunshine ;-) ........PROVE ME WRONG >:-) ....... Easy :D http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/ Well Pelmethead.......nothing to say???? (lol) Probably still bandaging his foot :D National debt increased because of the financial crisis that happened whilst Labour was asleep at the wheel ;-) ............ Oh......and there was no money left *-) .........have you forgotten about that note? >:-) ........ No money left is better than a mountain of debt. Financial crisis caused by deregulation that Osborne had called for more of. And Osborne managed to raise National Debt by more in one term than all the Labour Governments put together by helping his rich mates to avoid paying tax https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/16/osborne-advised-using-financial-loopholes-to-avoid-tax-and-care-costs like the Duke of Westminster inheriting £10 billion tax-free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-11-22 7:41 AM John52 - 2018-11-22 7:09 AM Tracker - 2018-11-21 7:45 PM like all statistics, can be interpreted any way the user sees fit, depending on their own lack of impartialty and political beliefs. Yes indeed. By intervening in the housing market to force up rents, making most people worse off, the Government claims an increase in GDP and Growth *-) The most telling economic statistic is the Current Account Deficit. So they don't like to talk about it and prefer to talk about so-called 'Growth' instead *-) Problem is that instead of productive industrial Growth like Germany, their Growth comes from flipping each other crummy houses and racking up debt. Which is why Germany has a massive surplus, and Britain a massive deficit. Germany has a massive surplus because the euro works in their favour.......German products would be extortionate without it *-) .......... https://www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2018/01/23/the-german-swindle-built-into-the-euro/#175c861d27da You need more foot bandages :-D Germany can set their own prices. All exporters in the common currency benefit by knowing how much they will get for their products so can plan future investment. Unlike good British exporters who have gone bust just through mis guessing future exchange rates. We can't have the Euro because we have to have Her Unelected Majesty's face on our banknotes. They can force her on us, but they can't force her on the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 John52 - 2018-11-22 8:49 AM pelmetman - 2018-11-22 7:41 AM John52 - 2018-11-22 7:09 AM Tracker - 2018-11-21 7:45 PM like all statistics, can be interpreted any way the user sees fit, depending on their own lack of impartialty and political beliefs. Yes indeed. By intervening in the housing market to force up rents, making most people worse off, the Government claims an increase in GDP and Growth *-) The most telling economic statistic is the Current Account Deficit. So they don't like to talk about it and prefer to talk about so-called 'Growth' instead *-) Problem is that instead of productive industrial Growth like Germany, their Growth comes from flipping each other crummy houses and racking up debt. Which is why Germany has a massive surplus, and Britain a massive deficit. Germany has a massive surplus because the euro works in their favour.......German products would be extortionate without it *-) .......... https://www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2018/01/23/the-german-swindle-built-into-the-euro/#175c861d27da You need more foot bandages :-D Germany can set their own prices. All exporters in the common currency benefit by knowing how much they will get for their products so can plan future investment. Unlike good British exporters who have gone bust just through mis guessing future exchange rates. We can't have the Euro because we have to have Her Unelected Majesty's face on our banknotes. They can force her on us, but they can't force her on the EU. So you either didn't read the link........Or you did :D .......and decided to deflect to your usual hobby horse >:-) ......... BTW how has the euro helped Greece, Italy or Portugal? 8-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-11-22 9:22 AM BTW how has the euro helped Greece, Italy or Portugal? 8-) .......... They've all got a stable currency that hasn't devalued as much as the pound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 John52 - 2018-11-22 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-22 9:22 AM BTW how has the euro helped Greece, Italy or Portugal? 8-) .......... They've all got a stable currency that hasn't devalued as much as the pound ..........and basket case economies because they cant devalue their currency to make them viable again *-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-11-22 2:38 PM John52 - 2018-11-22 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2018-11-22 9:22 AM BTW how has the euro helped Greece, Italy or Portugal? 8-) .......... They've all got a stable currency that hasn't devalued as much as the pound ..........and basket case economies because they cant devalue their currency to make them viable again *-) .......... Your incessant whataboutery desperately attempting to paint the Tories as some kind of financial wizards with the Midas touch, hasn't explained why national debt continued to increase each year under their watch. At the end of the calendar year 2016, UK government gross debt was £1,731.4 billion (89.3% of GDP). This represents an increase of £65.4 billion since the end of the calendar year 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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