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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 2:50 PM

 

One things for sure 90% of them are generally bad news, its rare to see a positive Brexit story.

 

No sh*t Sherlock?........Our 90% Remoaner biased media only focuses on negative Brexit stories (lol) (lol) (lol) ......

 

 

What planet are you on? It was the pro Brexit media that massively steered and drove then entire Brexit mess and got us to where we are now with 20+ years of drip feeding you nonsense. The remainers might have won the social media war but the news media in the UK is massively pro Brexit certainly by coverage and readership numbers.

 

Obviously a different one to yours Barry.........If you think the mainstream media was pro Brexit 8-) ........

 

Sounds to me like your unable to accept the FACT that 52% of us Brits actually want to LEAVE THE EU >:-) ............

 

 

Well if thats still the case then you have nothing to fear from a final vote on Mays deal then do you?

 

I don't object to another vote ;-) ...........

 

After we've left >:-) .........

 

Although to be fair......you should have the decency to wait 40+ years like I did :-| ..........

 

 

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So now the latest in governments "Carry On Cockup" movie is HMRC shut down the company Seabornes CEO used to run, Mercator International, for non payment of taxes with debts of over £1 million to MidGulf (still unpaid) and Palm Charters still chasing their money owed. Also he was operating illegally without a correct licence for a ship carrying guns.

 

Errm......why has this man not been brought to justice? People are getting locked up for far less serious criminal offences than this.

 

Grayling appears to be enjoying every moment as he grins his way throughout. Time he heads for Mays revolving Cabinet door which is spinning that fast now i've lost track of whose in Cabinet and whose out. It's like a competition to see who can notch up the longest stay as a Cabinet minister..

 

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I see Brittany ferries are confirming what most sensible folk think ;-) ........

 

They already have enough ships......and more importantly the capacity to increase their time table ;-) .........

 

So its unlikely Seaborne will be required, but I guess its sensible to plan just in case the EU want to play silly b*ggers >:-) .............

 

 

 

 

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Whilst Failing Grayling waffles lies, deflection and cuckoo land nonsense THIS guy, Mr Tommelein, Mayor of Ostend deals in harsh facts with no mincing of words.

 

Oh and you get a look around the stunning "development" of Ramsgate "ferry terminal".

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/mayor-of-ostend-casts-doubts-over-uk-government-ferry-contract

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Where are all the workers busily preparing our new "no deal" port? Its gonna need a bit of a spring clean by the look of it. It seems the only people properly preparing for a No Deal situation is the EU countries not the UK. Perhaps they think no deal wont happen huh?

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2019-01-20 4:16 PM

 

Where are all the workers busily preparing our new "no deal" port? Its gonna need a bit of a spring clean by the look of it. It seems the only people properly preparing for a No Deal situation is the EU countries not the UK. Perhaps they think no deal wont happen huh?

Apart from the Dutch owned dredger pottering around (obviously we couldn't afford the cost of our own dredger so gave the job to an EU country!), the only "work" i could see being done was the seagulls sh1tting all over the place.

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Not much going on at Dover either. Well nothing apart from some staged drive about in a few trucks that didnt even go into the port. According to Philip Hammond it would take years to ready Dover for a no deal Brexit and what have they done? Absolutely sweet FA.

 

I am sure a Brexiteer will be along in a minute to say it will all be fine.

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Seaborne Ferry contract scrapped

 

The £13.5 million contract with Seaborne Freight, the ferry company with no ships and t&c's copied from a takeaway menu, has been scrapped.

 

Time to scrap this entire Brexit fiasco and put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-chris-grayling-cancels-ferry-contract-no-deal-ships-seaborne-freight-dover-calais-a8770976.html

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Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 3:00 PM..................put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands...…………...

Grayling are fresh water fish, Paul! :-D

As one of the most inept idiotic ministers he was well out of his depth so would quickly get used to being a 'fish out of water'!

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Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 3:00 PM..................put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands...…………...

Grayling are fresh water fish, Paul! :-D

As one of the most inept idiotic ministers he was well out of his depth so would quickly get used to being a 'fish out of water'!

Not only "was" out of his depth, he still is! :-D

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Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 3:00 PM

 

 

Seaborne Ferry contract scrapped

 

The £13.5 million contract with Seaborne Freight, the ferry company with no ships and t&c's copied from a takeaway menu, has been scrapped.

 

Time to scrap this entire Brexit fiasco and put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-chris-grayling-cancels-ferry-contract-no-deal-ships-seaborne-freight-dover-calais-a8770976.html

 

 

 

You need to read your own links the ships were to be supplied by Arklow shipping a well respected shipping company with lots of ships it seems they withdrew from the venture and the contract became impossible to complete so it has been withdrawn. Makes sense to me no ships no contract but of course the remain clique didn't want to report that. *-)

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Brian Kirby - 2019-02-09 6:21 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 5:57 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2019-02-09 5:49 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 3:00 PM..................put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands...…………...

Grayling are fresh water fish, Paul! :-D

As one of the most inept idiotic ministers he was well out of his depth so would quickly get used to being a 'fish out of water'!

Not only "was" out of his depth, he still is! :-D

Sunk from the outset. Like the rest of 'em he's just been wasting time shuffling the deckchairs around on the Titanic. :-|

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teflon2 - 2019-02-09 6:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 3:00 PM

 

 

Seaborne Ferry contract scrapped

 

The £13.5 million contract with Seaborne Freight, the ferry company with no ships and t&c's copied from a takeaway menu, has been scrapped.

 

Time to scrap this entire Brexit fiasco and put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-chris-grayling-cancels-ferry-contract-no-deal-ships-seaborne-freight-dover-calais-a8770976.html

 

You need to read your own links the ships were to be supplied by Arklow shipping a well respected shipping company with lots of ships it seems they withdrew from the venture and the contract became impossible to complete so it has been withdrawn. Makes sense to me no ships no contract but of course the remain clique didn't want to report that. *-)

Teflon......that "ship" sailed long ago and was widely reported at the time in the media. Seaborne should never have even been on the cards at all. It was absolute mind boggling lunacy to even consider contracting a company with no equipment and worse still, no previous history (apart from extremely dodgy dealings and in debt to HMRC). It was akin to offering a multi million pound contract to an ex-con with a bucket and spade to go and dig the channel tunnel. Not to mention the total farce over Ramsgate port...which UK government will need to pay the Dutch company who dredged it.....all for no reason.

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 3:00 PM

 

 

Seaborne Ferry contract scrapped

 

The £13.5 million contract with Seaborne Freight, the ferry company with no ships and t&c's copied from a takeaway menu, has been scrapped.

 

Time to scrap this entire Brexit fiasco and put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-chris-grayling-cancels-ferry-contract-no-deal-ships-seaborne-freight-dover-calais-a8770976.html

 

 

 

You need to read your own links the ships were to be supplied by Arklow shipping a well respected shipping company with lots of ships it seems they withdrew from the venture and the contract became impossible to complete so it has been withdrawn. Makes sense to me no ships no contract but of course the remain clique didn't want to report that. *-)

 

I dont see how Arklow could have been of much use anyway unless it was for transporting containers and they do not posses any roll off roll on ferries.

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Tracker - 2019-02-09 6:26 PM

They are doomed when they don't, doomed when they do, and doomed when they change their mind.

But it all gives grist for the whinging folk to whinge.

Maybe you're right, Rich, but he doesn't exactly have a glowing record as a minister, does he. What you say above is a recipe for the mediocre. If he is suitable ministerial material, what does that say for the other 649 MP's? Forgive the odd mistake or error of judgement OK, but keep forgiving serial misjudgements? Surely, he has to go?

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Tracker - 2019-02-09 6:26 PM

They are doomed when they don't, doomed when they do, and doomed when they change their mind.

But it all gives grist for the whinging folk to whinge.

Maybe you're right, Rich, but he doesn't exactly have a glowing record as a minister, does he. What you say above is a recipe for the mediocre. If he is suitable ministerial material, what does that say for the other 649 MP's? Forgive the odd mistake or error of judgement OK, but keep forgiving serial misjudgements? Surely, he has to go?

The same bloke dished out a £200 million contract to Carillion despite the warnings, only for Carillion to ho into very 'convenient' (for some) liquidation. EY financial services were appointed by HS2 Ltd to assess Carillion’s finances, but had also been hired by the construction company! PwC insolvency still has people working on the Carillion case at the rate of £350ph per employee.

 

The Seaborne debacle was doomed from the outset and anyone could see that. Grayling claimed throughout that "due diligence" had been conducted before awarded Seaborne the contract, yet continually refused to show it. How the hell can you do 'due diligence' on a company with no previous experience, no ferries, and no business records other than unpaid debt? I think the public has a right to see what governments so called 'due diligence' on Seaborne was and it begs the question, how on earth are these 'pop up' companies even being considered for contracts let alone being given one.

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 6:58 PM

 

teflon2 - 2019-02-09 6:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-02-09 3:00 PM

 

 

Seaborne Ferry contract scrapped

 

The £13.5 million contract with Seaborne Freight, the ferry company with no ships and t&c's copied from a takeaway menu, has been scrapped.

 

Time to scrap this entire Brexit fiasco and put all Wrexiters on one of Seabornes invisible 'ferries' with Failing Graying......send 'em off to live out their dream on the Goodwin Sands.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-chris-grayling-cancels-ferry-contract-no-deal-ships-seaborne-freight-dover-calais-a8770976.html

 

You need to read your own links the ships were to be supplied by Arklow shipping a well respected shipping company with lots of ships it seems they withdrew from the venture and the contract became impossible to complete so it has been withdrawn. Makes sense to me no ships no contract but of course the remain clique didn't want to report that. *-)

Teflon......that "ship" sailed long ago and was widely reported at the time in the media. Seaborne should never have even been on the cards at all. It was absolute mind boggling lunacy to even consider contracting a company with no equipment and worse still, no previous history (apart from extremely dodgy dealings and in debt to HMRC). It was akin to offering a multi million pound contract to an ex-con with a bucket and spade to go and dig the channel tunnel. Not to mention the total farce over Ramsgate port...which UK government will need to pay the Dutch company who dredged it.....all for no reason.

 

 

 

I'm really miffed I have just wasted 5 mins. of my life looking though your posts to find when that ship had sailed only to find that the only reference you have made was a link 19 mins before I posted what a waste :D

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