Guest pelmetman Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-02-27 8:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-27 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-02-27 6:53 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-27 2:51 PM Bulletguy - 2019-02-27 2:19 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-27 8:21 AM Bulletguy - 2019-02-26 10:59 PM Barryd999 - 2019-02-26 10:06 PM Not only that but so far EU immigration has gone down, None EU has gone up to match it. India, China, Turkey all want free movement of people for a trade deal. Sounds like a massive own goal to me if your a Brexiteer who wanted to get rid of immigrants. Faridge whipped up the racist element with his "Breaking Point" poster of brown folks and left the Vote Leave/BeLeave/LeaveEU and the motley bunch of splinter groups to pump out the xenophobia over 'funny foreigners'. Chuck in a few snappy slogans for good measure and they were hooked....look at 'em, they're still parroting that silly "take back control" tripe even now. They've been brainwashed. I see we're getting to keep another one of your mates ;-) .......... I don't know any criminals so no idea what on earth you post that for. Perhaps you want to discuss the brutal murder of this young man too which has as much relevance to the thread topic as the link you posted? Nope...thought you wouldn't as the killers are white British so won't suit your vile xenophobic agenda. https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/three-guilty-of-beating-homeless-man-to-death-158199/ He's one of those folk you Remoaners are so keen to ensure has free access to the UK and its benefits is it not? >:-) ......... Freedom of movement is one of the rights i've enjoyed, respected and cherished over the years. You want to end that....but not for yourself who connive and dodge to do everything to overstay in Spain ignoring UK regulations, a blatant hypocrisy i cannot accept. FOM doesn't give "free access" to benefits either despite the rubbish that scummy rag you've always got your head in says. As a third country national he wouldn't be entitled to benefits. Instead of continually taking threads off topic when faced with an awkward question will you now address the point i made to you in a previous post which you ignored? You said you want to "take back control" so i posed the following for you; Sooo......"take back control" eh? Are you ready to buy back all rail franchises 70% of which are owned by errr....Germany, France, Netherlands, Italy. https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/70-of-uk-rail-routes-now-owned-by-foreign-states/ Then there's Royal Mail - Germany, Power - Germany, Italy and Spain. That's assuming any even want to sell and if so, who could blame 'em for hiking up the price? And just that little lot would be in the multi billions or even trillions which would heap further misery and austerity on 90% of the UK population. So your "take back control" is something of a joke and just another silly Brexsh1t slogan parroted by dreamers and fantasists. Incorrect again Dumb Dumb *-) ........ I want to end the right for low life to have freedom of movement across the EU ;-) ....... If the EU prefers to let CRIMINALS have free movement rather than TOURISTS like me then they're as THICK AND STUPID AS YOURSELF!!!!!! >:-) ........ Then that means you too. You cannot cherry pick on freedom of movement and calling yourself "a tourist" is a misnomer when you're an illegal.....like you. Why do you keep SHOUTING personal insults when throwing your toys out of your pram? Be a good boy and behave. Pick your toys up. As you were unable to address the points i raised in italics in that post, perhaps you will give point 3) on Brians post a try. How am I a illegal? :-S .... The Spanish plod know exactly where I am ;-) ........... BTW why do you think you should insult people and not be paid back in kind? >:-) ........ I guess its because you're Socialist?Communist :D .......... Hypocrisy is your natural element (lol) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-02-27 9:46 PM Bulletguy - 2019-02-27 8:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-27 8:38 PM Bulletguy - 2019-02-27 6:53 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-27 2:51 PM Bulletguy - 2019-02-27 2:19 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-27 8:21 AM Bulletguy - 2019-02-26 10:59 PM Barryd999 - 2019-02-26 10:06 PM Not only that but so far EU immigration has gone down, None EU has gone up to match it. India, China, Turkey all want free movement of people for a trade deal. Sounds like a massive own goal to me if your a Brexiteer who wanted to get rid of immigrants. Faridge whipped up the racist element with his "Breaking Point" poster of brown folks and left the Vote Leave/BeLeave/LeaveEU and the motley bunch of splinter groups to pump out the xenophobia over 'funny foreigners'. Chuck in a few snappy slogans for good measure and they were hooked....look at 'em, they're still parroting that silly "take back control" tripe even now. They've been brainwashed. I see we're getting to keep another one of your mates ;-) .......... I don't know any criminals so no idea what on earth you post that for. Perhaps you want to discuss the brutal murder of this young man too which has as much relevance to the thread topic as the link you posted? Nope...thought you wouldn't as the killers are white British so won't suit your vile xenophobic agenda. https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/three-guilty-of-beating-homeless-man-to-death-158199/ He's one of those folk you Remoaners are so keen to ensure has free access to the UK and its benefits is it not? >:-) ......... Freedom of movement is one of the rights i've enjoyed, respected and cherished over the years. You want to end that....but not for yourself who connive and dodge to do everything to overstay in Spain ignoring UK regulations, a blatant hypocrisy i cannot accept. FOM doesn't give "free access" to benefits either despite the rubbish that scummy rag you've always got your head in says. As a third country national he wouldn't be entitled to benefits. Instead of continually taking threads off topic when faced with an awkward question will you now address the point i made to you in a previous post which you ignored? You said you want to "take back control" so i posed the following for you; Sooo......"take back control" eh? Are you ready to buy back all rail franchises 70% of which are owned by errr....Germany, France, Netherlands, Italy. https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/70-of-uk-rail-routes-now-owned-by-foreign-states/ Then there's Royal Mail - Germany, Power - Germany, Italy and Spain. That's assuming any even want to sell and if so, who could blame 'em for hiking up the price? And just that little lot would be in the multi billions or even trillions which would heap further misery and austerity on 90% of the UK population. So your "take back control" is something of a joke and just another silly Brexsh1t slogan parroted by dreamers and fantasists. Incorrect again Dumb Dumb *-) ........ I want to end the right for low life to have freedom of movement across the EU ;-) ....... If the EU prefers to let CRIMINALS have free movement rather than TOURISTS like me then they're as THICK AND STUPID AS YOURSELF!!!!!! >:-) ........ Then that means you too. You cannot cherry pick on freedom of movement and calling yourself "a tourist" is a misnomer when you're an illegal.....like you. Why do you keep SHOUTING personal insults when throwing your toys out of your pram? Be a good boy and behave. Pick your toys up. As you were unable to address the points i raised in italics in that post, perhaps you will give point 3) on Brians post a try. How am I a illegal? :-S .... The Spanish plod know exactly where I am ;-) ........... I've lost count of the times you've been told so you'll just have to find out for yourself the hard way. BTW why do you think you should insult people and not be paid back in kind? >:-) ........ I don't mouth off SHOUTING like you all the time. Still no answer to Brians point 3) yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-02-26 6:57 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 5:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-26 4:31 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 2:39 PM Quite a bit of our money has gone into that investment pot, and when we leave it will have to be written off before we get to enjoy the benefit. That, among many other aspects of Brexit, seems a shame and a waste. Much of the country has been enjoying the benefit of uncontrolled migration, wage suppression caused by the influx of cheap labor, foreign criminals, pressures on our services NHS, housing, schools etc for over decade Brian *-) ........ So, primarily migration, and the bad management of migration? But, how did the EU do that to you? 1 As you know it was Labours Blair who opened our doors early *-) ........... 2 We now know that decision has had a detrimental affect on the UK......... 3 So we need to take back control, and we wont be able to do that whilst we are members of the EU :-| ....... 1 Yes it was, but that trend continued beyond Blair/Brown. 2 Yes we do, too many, too quickly. 3 This is where you lose me. That migration took place under the control of UK governments. We now see that since Brexit there are fewer migrants coming from within the EU, but more from outside the EU, over which the UK government has full control. So, two questions: 1 Who is it that wants all these migrants? 2 What is the logic of leaving the EU to gain control over immigration, when the immigration you complain of was, and is, under the control of UK governments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-02 12:27 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-26 6:57 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 5:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-26 4:31 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 2:39 PM Quite a bit of our money has gone into that investment pot, and when we leave it will have to be written off before we get to enjoy the benefit. That, among many other aspects of Brexit, seems a shame and a waste. Much of the country has been enjoying the benefit of uncontrolled migration, wage suppression caused by the influx of cheap labor, foreign criminals, pressures on our services NHS, housing, schools etc for over decade Brian *-) ........ So, primarily migration, and the bad management of migration? But, how did the EU do that to you? 1 As you know it was Labours Blair who opened our doors early *-) ........... 2 We now know that decision has had a detrimental affect on the UK......... 3 So we need to take back control, and we wont be able to do that whilst we are members of the EU :-| ....... 1 Yes it was, but that trend continued beyond Blair/Brown. 2 Yes we do, too many, too quickly. 3 This is where you lose me. That migration took place under the control of UK governments. We now see that since Brexit there are fewer migrants coming from within the EU, but more from outside the EU, over which the UK government has full control. So, two questions: 1 Who is it that wants all these migrants? 2 What is the logic of leaving the EU to gain control over immigration, when the immigration you complain of was, and is, under the control of UK governments? 1.....The families of those already here...... 2.....If we're going to take back control, then the EU is the obvious starting point as they have automatic access to our benefit system ;-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-03 8:03 2.....If we're going to take back control, then the EU is the obvious starting point as they have automatic access to our benefit system ;-) ......... No they don't, as you've been told many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-03 8:55 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-03 8:03 2.....If we're going to take back control, then the EU is the obvious starting point as they have automatic access to our benefit system ;-) ......... No they don't, as you've been told many times. Compared to non EU citizens it is *-) .......... As you just have to be self employed to access them ;-) ......... "An HMRC spokesman said: ‘We welcome the judgment. Only self-employed people who are doing work which is genuine and regular can claim child benefit." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4535492/Judges-crack-EU-migrants-selling-Big-Issue.html So that would include EU "Curtain Munchers" :D ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-03 8:03 AM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-02 12:27 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-26 6:57 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 5:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-26 4:31 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 2:39 PM Quite a bit of our money has gone into that investment pot, and when we leave it will have to be written off before we get to enjoy the benefit. That, among many other aspects of Brexit, seems a shame and a waste. Much of the country has been enjoying the benefit of uncontrolled migration, wage suppression caused by the influx of cheap labor, foreign criminals, pressures on our services NHS, housing, schools etc for over decade Brian *-) ........ So, primarily migration, and the bad management of migration? But, how did the EU do that to you? 1 As you know it was Labours Blair who opened our doors early *-) ........... 2 We now know that decision has had a detrimental affect on the UK......... 3 So we need to take back control, and we wont be able to do that whilst we are members of the EU :-| ....... 1 Yes it was, but that trend continued beyond Blair/Brown. 2 Yes we do, too many, too quickly. 3 This is where you lose me. That migration took place under the control of UK governments. We now see that since Brexit there are fewer migrants coming from within the EU, but more from outside the EU, over which the UK government has full control. So, two questions: 1 Who is it that wants all these migrants? 2 What is the logic of leaving the EU to gain control over immigration, when the immigration you complain of was, and is, under the control of UK governments? 1.....The families of those already here...... 2.....If we're going to take back control, then the EU is the obvious starting point as they have automatic access to our benefit system ;-) ......... 1 Not on the evidence. It is mainly UK business who want them. 2 We have controls, but UK governments have failed to apply them because UK business says it needs more of them. You do realise over half the total, and rising, is now from outside the EU? Same numbers, different origins. They are subject to even tighter control than those from the EU, yet they sill arrive. Leaving the EU, as can already be seen, is not the solution. Solving UK's low productivity and lack of business investment, is the solution. How will Brexit fix that? It will more likely make it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-04 3:55 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-03 8:03 AM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-02 12:27 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-26 6:57 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 5:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-26 4:31 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-02-26 2:39 PM Quite a bit of our money has gone into that investment pot, and when we leave it will have to be written off before we get to enjoy the benefit. That, among many other aspects of Brexit, seems a shame and a waste. Much of the country has been enjoying the benefit of uncontrolled migration, wage suppression caused by the influx of cheap labor, foreign criminals, pressures on our services NHS, housing, schools etc for over decade Brian *-) ........ So, primarily migration, and the bad management of migration? But, how did the EU do that to you? 1 As you know it was Labours Blair who opened our doors early *-) ........... 2 We now know that decision has had a detrimental affect on the UK......... 3 So we need to take back control, and we wont be able to do that whilst we are members of the EU :-| ....... 1 Yes it was, but that trend continued beyond Blair/Brown. 2 Yes we do, too many, too quickly. 3 This is where you lose me. That migration took place under the control of UK governments. We now see that since Brexit there are fewer migrants coming from within the EU, but more from outside the EU, over which the UK government has full control. So, two questions: 1 Who is it that wants all these migrants? 2 What is the logic of leaving the EU to gain control over immigration, when the immigration you complain of was, and is, under the control of UK governments? 1.....The families of those already here...... 2.....If we're going to take back control, then the EU is the obvious starting point as they have automatic access to our benefit system ;-) ......... 1 Not on the evidence. It is mainly UK business who want them. 2 We have controls, but UK governments have failed to apply them because UK business says it needs more of them. You do realise over half the total, and rising, is now from outside the EU? Same numbers, different origins. They are subject to even tighter control than those from the EU, yet they still arrive. Leaving the EU, as can already be seen, is not the solution. Solving UK's low productivity and lack of business investment, is the solution. How will Brexit fix that? It will more likely make it worse. A long running forum thread discussing exactly that with the opening post asking Brexiteers the pertinent question. As yet none have come up with a logical answer......can't think why! (lol) https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2327607/new-non-eu-immigration-figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-03-04 4:08 PM A long running forum thread discussing exactly that with the opening post asking Brexiteers the pertinent question. As yet none have come up with a logical answer......can't think why! (lol) https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2327607/new-non-eu-immigration-figures Seeing as "digitalspy" doesn't like Brexiteers and has kicked most of them off including me >:-) ......... I should imagine its a one sided discussion ;-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-04 3:55 PM You do realise over half the total, and rising, is now from outside the EU? Same numbers, different origins. They are subject to even tighter control than those from the EU, yet they sill arrive. Leaving the EU, as can already be seen, is not the solution. Solving UK's low productivity and lack of business investment, is the solution. How will Brexit fix that? It will more likely make it worse. Yep.......and their access to the UK benefit system will be restricted when compared to someone from the EU B-) ............. So another Brexit win win for the UK :D ............ BTW Brian.......have you not noticed its the EU that is in the financial Do Do?........Not Brexit Blighty >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 I see the original App I posted on page one is now working again. You can have a look at what it costs you by your postcode and see how much you have had back. https://it-costs-eu.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-05 9:33 AM I see the original App I posted on page one is now working again. You can have a look at what it costs you by your postcode and see how much you have had back. https://it-costs-eu.com/ Why would I want to look at a website that tells me how much of OUR money the EU gave us back??? :-S ........ I'm more concerned with the billions of OUR money that they waste on their empire building *-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-05 8:13 AM Bulletguy - 2019-03-04 4:08 PM A long running forum thread discussing exactly that with the opening post asking Brexiteers the pertinent question. As yet none have come up with a logical answer......can't think why! (lol) https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2327607/new-non-eu-immigration-figures Seeing as "digitalspy" doesn't like Brexiteers and has kicked most of them off including me >:-) ......... I should imagine its a one sided discussion ;-) ......... Not surprised at that and i can pretty much guess what it would have been for too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-05 9:33 AM I see the original App I posted on page one is now working again. You can have a look at what it costs you by your postcode and see how much you have had back. https://it-costs-eu.com/ Yeah the cost is peanut money......after all Failing Grayling has just thrown £2.7 billion of tax payers money down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-03-05 3:36 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-05 8:13 AM Bulletguy - 2019-03-04 4:08 PM A long running forum thread discussing exactly that with the opening post asking Brexiteers the pertinent question. As yet none have come up with a logical answer......can't think why! (lol) https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2327607/new-non-eu-immigration-figures Seeing as "digitalspy" doesn't like Brexiteers and has kicked most of them off including me >:-) ......... I should imagine its a one sided discussion ;-) ......... Not surprised at that and i can pretty much guess what it would have been for too. For not being a spineless EU lick spittle :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-06 8:48 AM Bulletguy - 2019-03-05 3:36 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-05 8:13 AM Bulletguy - 2019-03-04 4:08 PM A long running forum thread discussing exactly that with the opening post asking Brexiteers the pertinent question. As yet none have come up with a logical answer......can't think why! (lol) https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2327607/new-non-eu-immigration-figures Seeing as "digitalspy" doesn't like Brexiteers and has kicked most of them off including me >:-) ......... I should imagine its a one sided discussion ;-) ......... Not surprised at that and i can pretty much guess what it would have been for too. For not being a spineless EU lick spittle :D .......... Spoken like a true hypocrite currently sitting in his 30 year old tub on a campsite in Spain! *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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