jumpstart Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 John52 - 2020-12-26 7:37 PM So even the fishermen aren't happy with BoJo's Brexit https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/26/deal-fishing-industry-boris-johnson-betrayal-eu-demands That the beauty of compromises .......nobody actually gets what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-12-26 8:49 PM John52 - 2020-12-26 7:37 PM So even the fishermen aren't happy with BoJo's Brexit https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/26/deal-fishing-industry-boris-johnson-betrayal-eu-demands That the beauty of compromises .......nobody actually gets what they want. But why should there be a compromise? They voted out on the basis of a fixed promise, there were no caveats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-12-26 8:49 PM John52 - 2020-12-26 7:37 PM So even the fishermen aren't happy with BoJo's Brexit https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/26/deal-fishing-industry-boris-johnson-betrayal-eu-demands That the beauty of compromises .......nobody actually gets what they want. BoJo has He got the PM's job And he has 'Taken back control' from the European Court of Justice Which was your last line of defence in holding him to account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-02-22 6:13 PM there were two refrigerated 40 tonne artics parked outside the market, both loading, both French registered. Presumably the nice, fresh, Newlyn-landed fish were en-route to France via Plymouth. How does that work economically when the French can land their own catch a lot closer to their own market? Seemed bizarre to me. The French can't land the fish closer to their own market because they don't have enough permits. Permits are worth more to the EU than the English, thats they they have bought so many from English fleet owners at mega prices. And BoJo won the fleet owners over on the (broken) promise to get them back for now't. But at least BoJo has got what HE wanted. The PM's job without the European Court of Justice for us to hold him to account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-12-27 8:06 AM One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Being Scottish they've prolly got to many chits on their shoulders :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just watched the latest one filmed just after BoJo's Brexit deal Newlyn Skippers were unanimous in their opinion of it But at least have got £100+ million of your money to buy them off Some will say the fisherman got what they voted for so it serves them right. But I think there is more to it than that They voted for what BoJo promised them So do you blame them for believing BoJo? Or do you blame BoJo for lying? ... or Both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 John52 - 2021-02-23 11:29 AM Just watched the latest one filmed just after BoJo's Brexit deal Newlyn Skippers were unanimous in their opinion of it But at least have got £100+ million of your money to buy them off Some will say the fisherman got what they voted for so it serves them right. But I think there is more to it than that They voted for what BoJo promised them So do you blame them for believing BoJo? Or do you blame BoJo for lying? ... or Both? Both but mainly Johnson, Farage and the rest of the Batty Brexit mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Well at least they have got financial compensation for their Brexit Losses Which is more than any other industries I can think of I don't know why the fishermen got compensation and other exporters didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 It’s a fair cop...but society is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 John52 - 2021-02-23 1:56 PM Well at least they have got financial compensation for their Brexit Losses Which is more than any other industries I can think of I don't know why the fishermen got compensation and other exporters didn't? Its obvious. The fishing industry was the Brexit poster boy. It cant be allowed to fail but it just proves how out of control and bonkers Brexit really is / was. Its a massive embarrassment for Johnson and the Tories that one of the industries they told us would massively benefit from Brexit is now one of the worst impacted. They will throw money at them to paper over the cracks. Its also why they have put off taking back control of our borders and performing our own checks inwards. We have that to look forward to next. Then any industries that rely on Just in time deliveries will no doubt start to suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-02-23 3:46 PM John52 - 2021-02-23 1:56 PM Well at least they have got financial compensation for their Brexit Losses Which is more than any other industries I can think of I don't know why the fishermen got compensation and other exporters didn't? Its obvious. The fishing industry was the Brexit poster boy. It cant be allowed to fail but it just proves how out of control and bonkers Brexit really is / was. Its a massive embarrassment for Johnson and the Tories that one of the industries they told us would massively benefit from Brexit is now one of the worst impacted. They will throw money at them to paper over the cracks. Its also why they have put off taking back control of our borders and performing our own checks inwards. We have that to look forward to next. Then any industries that rely on Just in time deliveries will no doubt start to suffer. Does that apply to countries who are waiting for the EU's just in time vaccine deliveries? >:-) ........ The EU is doing more to promote EXITS in the EU than Brexit ever did (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-23 4:00 PM The EU is doing more to promote EXITS in the EU than Brexit ever did (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ So how many have exited the EU so far *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 John52 - 2021-02-23 4:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-23 4:00 PM The EU is doing more to promote EXITS in the EU than Brexit ever did (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ So how many have exited the EU so far *-) I'm sure that Pelmet will be along in a minute with a made up fact / falsehood and a headline from the Wail, Express or Breitbart that is really just an opinion piece. He seems to have lost touch with reality and is now planning some new tunnels at Pelmet Towers to join the £30k greenhouse, complete with automatic irrigation and curtains, to the East Wing of the big house. He is going to dispose of the spoil from the tunnel overboard when he takes his yacht out, mind he doesn't get much time for playing on his boat because being an Able Semen he is tossing and turning all the time, troubled that his international cushion empire is going to be undercut by those nasty EU bureaucrats giving him a small prick before they give it to someone in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 He lost touch with reality the day he was born and created his own little Walter Mitty world he's inhabited ever since. He's recently decided he's been in the Antartic in winter. Never mentioned that ever before....until an fm posted a thread about it. Naturally he hasn't any photographs. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 jumpstart - 2020-12-27 8:06 AM One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Apparently Its anything with soil on it that wasn't grown in the EU because the soil could be contaminated if the farming of it wasn't overseen by the EU. Same with pot plants etc. And foodstuffs etc. Same with any other country outside the EU. People have been led to believe we can 'take back control' farm how we like, import from where we like, and then continue to export it into the EU with no barriers *-) 'Have your cake and eat it' All this was predicted and dismissed as 'project fear' 'easiest trade deal in history, done in an afternoon' 'they need us more than we need them' etc *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 John52 - 2021-02-24 2:57 AM jumpstart - 2020-12-27 8:06 AM One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Apparently Its anything with soil on it that wasn't grown in the EU because the soil could be contaminated if the farming of it wasn't overseen by the EU. Same with pot plants etc. And foodstuffs etc. Same with any other country outside the EU. People have been led to believe we can 'take back control' farm how we like, import from where we like, and then continue to export it into the EU with no barriers *-) 'Have your cake and eat it' All this was predicted and dismissed as 'project fear' 'easiest trade deal in history, done in an afternoon' 'they need us more than we need them' etc *-) UK exports seed potatoes to 50 countries around the world outside the EU. The largest exports to Egypt and Morocco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 John52 - 2021-02-23 4:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-23 4:00 PM The EU is doing more to promote EXITS in the EU than Brexit ever did (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ So how many have exited the EU so far *-) Rome wasn't destroyed in a day ;-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 6:59 PM John52 - 2021-02-23 4:26 PM pelmetman - 2021-02-23 4:00 PM The EU is doing more to promote EXITS in the EU than Brexit ever did (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ So how many have exited the EU so far *-) I'm sure that Pelmet will be along in a minute with a made up fact / falsehood and a headline from the Wail, Express or Breitbart that is really just an opinion piece. He seems to have lost touch with reality and is now planning some new tunnels at Pelmet Towers to join the £30k greenhouse, complete with automatic irrigation and curtains, to the East Wing of the big house. He is going to dispose of the spoil from the tunnel overboard when he takes his yacht out, mind he doesn't get much time for playing on his boat because being an Able Semen he is tossing and turning all the time, troubled that his international cushion empire is going to be undercut by those nasty EU bureaucrats giving him a small prick before they give it to someone in Germany. Still telling Lies Cowpat *-) ........... Would you like to post a link to where I've ever said our new greenhouse cost 30K? ;-) .......... Besides only a mug would spend that kinda money on a greenhouse.........Its like those Posers who spend fortune on kyaks to paddle themselves up sh*t creek >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-24 8:23 AM John52 - 2021-02-24 2:57 AM jumpstart - 2020-12-27 8:06 AM One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Apparently Its anything with soil on it that wasn't grown in the EU because the soil could be contaminated if the farming of it wasn't overseen by the EU. Same with pot plants etc. And foodstuffs etc. Same with any other country outside the EU. People have been led to believe we can 'take back control' farm how we like, import from where we like, and then continue to export it into the EU with no barriers *-) 'Have your cake and eat it' All this was predicted and dismissed as 'project fear' 'easiest trade deal in history, done in an afternoon' 'they need us more than we need them' etc *-) UK exports seed potatoes to 50 countries around the world outside the EU. The largest exports to Egypt and Morocco. Yes and those exports were all achieved whilst members of the EU, so where roll over trade agreements have been negotiated, those exports will continue. They are not new markets and probably have limited amount of growth - presumably they were already buying all the spuds they need. In the meantime there is £14 million pounds worth of spuds without a market, which will probably have a impact on prices world wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-24 8:59 AM jumpstart - 2021-02-24 8:23 AM John52 - 2021-02-24 2:57 AM jumpstart - 2020-12-27 8:06 AM One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Apparently Its anything with soil on it that wasn't grown in the EU because the soil could be contaminated if the farming of it wasn't overseen by the EU. Same with pot plants etc. And foodstuffs etc. Same with any other country outside the EU. People have been led to believe we can 'take back control' farm how we like, import from where we like, and then continue to export it into the EU with no barriers *-) 'Have your cake and eat it' All this was predicted and dismissed as 'project fear' 'easiest trade deal in history, done in an afternoon' 'they need us more than we need them' etc *-) UK exports seed potatoes to 50 countries around the world outside the EU. The largest exports to Egypt and Morocco. Yes and those exports were all achieved whilst members of the EU, so where roll over trade agreements have been negotiated, those exports will continue. They are not new markets and probably have limited amount of growth - presumably they were already buying all the spuds they need. In the meantime there is £14 million pounds worth of spuds without a market, which will probably have a impact on prices world wide. Food with " limited amount of growth" ...are you kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-24 9:13 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-24 8:59 AM jumpstart - 2021-02-24 8:23 AM John52 - 2021-02-24 2:57 AM jumpstart - 2020-12-27 8:06 AM One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Apparently Its anything with soil on it that wasn't grown in the EU because the soil could be contaminated if the farming of it wasn't overseen by the EU. Same with pot plants etc. And foodstuffs etc. Same with any other country outside the EU. People have been led to believe we can 'take back control' farm how we like, import from where we like, and then continue to export it into the EU with no barriers *-) 'Have your cake and eat it' All this was predicted and dismissed as 'project fear' 'easiest trade deal in history, done in an afternoon' 'they need us more than we need them' etc *-) UK exports seed potatoes to 50 countries around the world outside the EU. The largest exports to Egypt and Morocco. Yes and those exports were all achieved whilst members of the EU, so where roll over trade agreements have been negotiated, those exports will continue. They are not new markets and probably have limited amount of growth - presumably they were already buying all the spuds they need. In the meantime there is £14 million pounds worth of spuds without a market, which will probably have a impact on prices world wide. Food with " limited amount of growth" ...are you kidding. No, which is why I said market growth. So those countries were buying enough seed potatoes, just because we now have more spuds for sale doesn't mean they will buy them, are they suddenly going to have more suitable fields to plant them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-24 9:26 AM jumpstart - 2021-02-24 9:13 AM CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-24 8:59 AM jumpstart - 2021-02-24 8:23 AM John52 - 2021-02-24 2:57 AM jumpstart - 2020-12-27 8:06 AM One thing i don’t understand is why Scottish seed potatoes now don’t conform to EU standards? Apparently Its anything with soil on it that wasn't grown in the EU because the soil could be contaminated if the farming of it wasn't overseen by the EU. Same with pot plants etc. And foodstuffs etc. Same with any other country outside the EU. People have been led to believe we can 'take back control' farm how we like, import from where we like, and then continue to export it into the EU with no barriers *-) 'Have your cake and eat it' All this was predicted and dismissed as 'project fear' 'easiest trade deal in history, done in an afternoon' 'they need us more than we need them' etc *-) UK exports seed potatoes to 50 countries around the world outside the EU. The largest exports to Egypt and Morocco. Yes and those exports were all achieved whilst members of the EU, so where roll over trade agreements have been negotiated, those exports will continue. They are not new markets and probably have limited amount of growth - presumably they were already buying all the spuds they need. In the meantime there is £14 million pounds worth of spuds without a market, which will probably have a impact on prices world wide. Food with " limited amount of growth" ...are you kidding. No, which is why I said market growth. So those countries were buying enough seed potatoes, just because we now have more spuds for sale doesn't mean they will buy them, are they suddenly going to have more suitable fields to plant them in. The answer is yes. With ever growing populations food will need to be grown in more and more places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 New Zealand: Potato exports plummet amid claims of European dumping New Zealand’s potato trade is struggling as exports to some key markets plummeted in December, new figures show. According to a report by RNZ’s Riley Kennedy, a dispute broke out last year over claims European producers were dumping frozen fries into markets around the world. Potatoes New Zealand chief executive Chris Claridge believed that was a major factor in the drop in export. The same thing the EU complain about other countries doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Fortunately I bought my Maris Pipers and Charlottes early before they sold out B-) ......... They're chitting quite nicely :D ........ Just got to barrow in another 2 tons of blended loam to fill the raised beds before March 8-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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