Trigano window blind

[Mickydripin]

Hi all,

I am having a problem with my sliding door window blind on my 2004 Fiat Trigano Tribune campervan.

It sticks and crumples up when I let it down.

I think I saw sometime ago in MMM someone doing a repair on one but can not find it where is the best place to get one from.

I would like one in the Frame or just the roller is it easy to just fit the roller.

I have stripped the interia trim off (and what a job that was!) so I have got the blind out.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Many thanks: Mike.

[Mickydripin]

With all our experts out there Is there anybody that can help me with this problem?.

Mike.

[BruceM]

I'm not familiar with your type of blind but if the issue is that it 'sticks and crumples' would a shot of silicon spray allow it to travel freely?

[Derek Uzzell]

Mike

 

For a useful response, I think you’ll need to identify the make (and possibly the model) of window blind fitted to your Tribute’s sliding door, or provide a photo.

 

(In 1968/69 I was working for BT in London in a personnel department. One of my clerical staff was a woman in her 40s with fiery red hair and a matching fiery temper, who had been there for years and knew the job inside-out. I was the ’New Boy’ and, when I asked her what I thought was a simple question, she delighted in rolling her eyes and saying “Derek, I’m not ****** psychic you know.”)

 

 

[Derek Uzzell]

OK, I’ve looked at YouTube videos of 2004-vintage Trigano Tributes and I THINK the windows are Dometic Seitz S4 units, with the one in the sliding door being the sliding type (image attached below)

 

Spare parts are available

 

https://www.leisureshopdirect.com/ventilation/camper-van-conversion/seitz-windows/spare-parts-for-seitz-sliding-s4-s4.6-windows

 

and there are YouTube videos showing how to access the blinds.

 

https://tinyurl.com/tdsbrrn

 

and

 

https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/seitz-window-screw-covers.175079/

 

https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Window-removal/25482/

 

(The inner and and outer window frames are attached to each other. So, if you remove the inner frame, make sure that the outer frame doesn’t fall off!)

[Mickydripin]

Derek Uzzell - 2020-04-10 1:47 PM

 

Mike

 

For a useful response, I think you’ll need to identify the make (and possibly the model) of window blind fitted to your Tribute’s sliding door, or provide a photo.

 

 

Sorry Derek,

I thought that you were Psychic because you are like a ferret and come up with some amazing answers.

I gave all the info about the van but I would not for the life of me know any info on the make of the window I thought that all Tribute windows of that year would be the same. I am in the blind about these things and was more or less hoping that all the windows were the same on all models.

Best regards Mike.

[Derek Uzzell]

My Rapido motorhome has Dometic S4 windows and “Dometic” plus an identification code can be found the window’s right-hand top corner when the window is viewed from outside the vehicle.

 

https://www.leisurespares.co.uk/brands/dometic-seitz/windows-dometic-seitz

 

This YouTube video relates to a 2003 Trigano Tribute

 

 

There are lots of interior shots of the windows (including the window in the sliding door) and they all look like Dometic S4 windows to me.

 

Although it MIGHT be possible to obtain a complete inner frame with the blinds already installed, this would be costly and the original inner frame would still need to be removed in order to fit the new frame. Even buying just the roller blind alone would not be inexpensive.

 

(I’ve just read your original posting again and now realise that you had already managed to remove the window’s inner frame. You said about the blind "It sticks and crumples up when I let it down”, which suggests that one end of the blind’s lower part may not be ‘catching’ properly. Something minor might have broken and a repair with a new part might be quite cheap. Or - as BruceM said above - spraying the moving parts might fix the problem. Not easy to advise without seeing the frame + blind and what happens when the blind is pulled down.)

 

 

[Keithl]

Mike,

 

Is this MMM guide to repairing blinds of any help...

 

https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/articles/practical-advice/motorhome-advice-how-to-repair-cassette-blinds

 

Keith.

[Derek Uzzell]

Peter Rosenthal’s advice relates to a window with a ‘concertina’ privacy blind, whereas Mike’s Dometic S4 blinds are the roller type.

 

Mike has managed to detach his window’s inner frame - a procedure that can be challenging with the earlier S4 design. The inner frame carries the privacy and flyscreen roller blinds, and Mike has also been able to remove the problematical blind (presumably the privacy blind not the flyscreen one).

 

The 2nd link I provided in my posting of 10 April 2020 6:45 PM above identifies several videos that relate to blinds similar to Mike’s.

 

This video (as do others) describes how to retension these blinds (a fairly common requirement apparently)

 

 

Mike’s difficulty is that his blind "sticks and crumples up when I let it down”, which might suggest that only retensioning is needed or might indicate something more serious.

 

I have attached an exploded-view drawing of a Dometic S4 inner frame and the privacy roller blind, when being closed, is locked in position by the combination of parts numbered “37” in the drawing. A ‘repair set’ that includes the various parts is available

 

https://www.leisureshopdirect.com/ventilation/caravan-windows/seitz-windows/spare-parts-for-dometic-seitz-s4-top-hung-and-fixed-windows/seitz-s3-s4-window-repair-set

 

but (as I said above) without actually seeing Mike’s blind and how it is sticking and crumpling - it’s very difficult to diagnose what is causing this to happen. It might be due to a failure of one of the “37” parts, or lubrication is needed (the blind is, after all, 16 years old) or the cause may be something else entirely.

 

I would have thought that the cause of the problem should have become apparent once the inner frame had been removed, but that does not seem to have been the case with Mike’s blind. Perhaps if he replaces the blind in the frame and retensions it, the fault will go away...

[ham]

Earlier Tributes had Sietz blinds fitted according to Auto trail. This was the answer to tribby members enquiring about replacements

[Derek Uzzell]

When I started motorcaravanning in 1998 the fridges fitted to many motorhomes were branded “Electrolux”, and windows and rooflights fitted to many motorhomes were branded “Seitz”.

 

Over the years the “Electrolux” fridge brand was re-branded to “Dometic”.

 

The “Seitz” window/rooflight brand was also ‘officially’ re-branded to “Dometic"

 

https://www.dometic.com/en-gb/uk/products/climate/windows-and-doors/motorhome-and-caravan-framed-windows

 

but it is quite common for the term “Dometic Seitz” (or even just “Seitz”) to still be used within the motorhome community.

 

Examples of both such usages are here

 

https://www.leisurespares.co.uk/brands/dometic-seitz/windows-dometic-seitz

 

https://www.jacksons-camping.co.uk/seitz/seitzwindows.htm

[Mickydripin]

Thanks everybody for all your help> Now I have to put it all together again.

It was a two fold thing that I wanted to do one was the insulation in the door as there was none in it at all and the other was to repair the window blind thanks to you all now I can complete both.

 

Regards: Mike.