jumpstart Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-01-03 1:48 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 1:31 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 1:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 12:35 PM Again...who will look after the kids if parents are working...? Who will look after the teachers children when the teacher is hospitalized/dead? That doesn’t answer the question. You're building brick walls J/start. Most families have access to childcare be it temporary or other and if they cannot get that they've usually got at least one friend and/or relative in the area who can step in. Where I used to work a young couple with three children had split up. Both parents worked shifts full time......and continued doing so sharing the childcare duties between themselves and both families. If childcare is already booked up there aren't too many options. Friends are not part of the bubble so can't mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 RE: Who would look after kids if schools were 'closed'? Presumably the same /similar folk who looked after them when the schools were closed during the first wave...? Also "childcare bubbles" CAN be formed with non-relatives . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-01-03 1:52 PM Barryd999 - 2021-01-03 1:38 PM Johnson is an absolute arsehole though. I just heard him on the news say schools are totally safe and children are not at risk. WTF! They clearly are not safe, the new variant seems to like the young people and even if they are safe the whole point is they can spread to those who are NOT safe. All his kids are in boarding schools aren't they? That's how little he thinks of his brood.....shovels 'em off out the way so he can carry on shagging. :-| Blimey! are they? I know how much these places cost. No wonder he's skint! How many does he have now? I dont think he even knows. To be fair to Johnson, I would probably have them sent off to boarding school but then again, I wasn't daft enough to father loads of illegitimate children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 pepe63 - 2021-01-03 4:43 PM RE: Who would look after kids if schools were 'closed'? Presumably the same /similar folk who looked after them when the schools were closed during the first wave...? Also "childcare bubbles" CAN be formed with non-relatives . What if...the same folk want to protect themselves like the teachers do so don’t want to do it again. What if....you don’t want your kids with someone you don’t know well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-01-03 5:58 PM pepe63 - 2021-01-03 4:43 PM RE: Who would look after kids if schools were 'closed'? Presumably the same /similar folk who looked after them when the schools were closed during the first wave...? Also "childcare bubbles" CAN be formed with non-relatives . What if...the same folk want to protect themselves like the teachers do so don’t want to do it again. What if....you don’t want your kids with someone you don’t know well. Well,if that were to be the case,then I guess the parents would have to take responsibility and look after their own kids, ( in the same way as they would if their kids were off school sick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:36 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying From the link Yes, according to a review of the current evidence by the UK’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). Its 18 December report said that the rate of transmission of the variant, known as B.1.1.7 or VUI 202012/01 (variant under investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01), was 71% (95% confidence interval 67% to 75%), higher than for other variants, and that it may also have a higher viral load.1 While previous variants have emerged without clear evidence of having a selective advantage, the report noted, the “emergence and subsequent dominance” of this new variant in a period of relatively high prevalence indicated that it does have a “selective advantage over other variants.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Could do the same in school. Many checkout people this morning were not wearing face coverings in Tesco,but did have a screen. So kids wear masks and teacher behind a screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:42 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:36 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying From the link Yes, according to a review of the current evidence by the UK’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). Its 18 December report said that the rate of transmission of the variant, known as B.1.1.7 or VUI 202012/01 (variant under investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01), was 71% (95% confidence interval 67% to 75%), higher than for other variants, and that it may also have a higher viral load.1 While previous variants have emerged without clear evidence of having a selective advantage, the report noted, the “emergence and subsequent dominance” of this new variant in a period of relatively high prevalence indicated that it does have a “selective advantage over other variants.” The viral load is higher in Hospitals ,Schools,Supermarkets ....anywhere there are a lot of people. So back to the point,Supermarkets are no different than schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:57 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:42 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:36 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying From the link Yes, according to a review of the current evidence by the UK’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). Its 18 December report said that the rate of transmission of the variant, known as B.1.1.7 or VUI 202012/01 (variant under investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01), was 71% (95% confidence interval 67% to 75%), higher than for other variants, and that it may also have a higher viral load.1 While previous variants have emerged without clear evidence of having a selective advantage, the report noted, the “emergence and subsequent dominance” of this new variant in a period of relatively high prevalence indicated that it does have a “selective advantage over other variants.” The viral load is higher in Hospitals ,Schools,Supermarkets ....anywhere there are a lot of people. So back to the point,Supermarkets are no different than schools. Go and educate yourself on viral load and how it influences the severity of the infection, little hint its not related to the number of people in a space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. Yes, a small viral load every few minutes for 8 hours. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 8:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:57 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:42 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:36 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying From the link Yes, according to a review of the current evidence by the UK’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). Its 18 December report said that the rate of transmission of the variant, known as B.1.1.7 or VUI 202012/01 (variant under investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01), was 71% (95% confidence interval 67% to 75%), higher than for other variants, and that it may also have a higher viral load.1 While previous variants have emerged without clear evidence of having a selective advantage, the report noted, the “emergence and subsequent dominance” of this new variant in a period of relatively high prevalence indicated that it does have a “selective advantage over other variants.” The viral load is higher in Hospitals ,Schools,Supermarkets ....anywhere there are a lot of people. So back to the point,Supermarkets are no different than schools. Go and educate yourself on viral load and how it influences the severity of the infection, little hint its not related to the number of people in a space. Viral load is the measure of particles of virus.....more infected people = more viral load. So viral load in Supermarket or School both much the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:51 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Could do the same in school. Many checkout people this morning were not wearing face coverings in Tesco,but did have a screen. So kids wear masks and teacher behind a screen. Every day in term time two school busses go down or road both full of infants, I'd say there is a fair chance of transmission there. Then we have the kids playing together in the school. And yes they do as I observe when going past the school. But the argument is not valid, there needs to be a way of getting food to homes, there is no viable way of doing that without supermarkets at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-01-03 8:52 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 8:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:57 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:42 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:36 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying From the link Yes, according to a review of the current evidence by the UK’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). Its 18 December report said that the rate of transmission of the variant, known as B.1.1.7 or VUI 202012/01 (variant under investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01), was 71% (95% confidence interval 67% to 75%), higher than for other variants, and that it may also have a higher viral load.1 While previous variants have emerged without clear evidence of having a selective advantage, the report noted, the “emergence and subsequent dominance” of this new variant in a period of relatively high prevalence indicated that it does have a “selective advantage over other variants.” The viral load is higher in Hospitals ,Schools,Supermarkets ....anywhere there are a lot of people. So back to the point,Supermarkets are no different than schools. Go and educate yourself on viral load and how it influences the severity of the infection, little hint its not related to the number of people in a space. Viral load is the measure of particles of virus.....more infected people = more viral load. So viral load in Supermarket or School both much the same situation. Viral load depends on how much someone is shedding the virus and how long you are exposed to them, it's why so many health care professionals got so ill before adequate PPE was provided. A teacher will be exposed to a potential threat in the course of the day the day if one child is infected compared to a checkout operator, this takes on particular significance with the new variant that children are more susceptible to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:42 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:36 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying From the link Yes, according to a review of the current evidence by the UK’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). Its 18 December report said that the rate of transmission of the variant, known as B.1.1.7 or VUI 202012/01 (variant under investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01), was 71% (95% confidence interval 67% to 75%), higher than for other variants, and that it may also have a higher viral load.1 While previous variants have emerged without clear evidence of having a selective advantage, the report noted, the “emergence and subsequent dominance” of this new variant in a period of relatively high prevalence indicated that it does have a “selective advantage over other variants.” From your post Where does it say a teacher is more likely to get Covid than a supermarket worker ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 The fake concern for teachers is sickening ... The sisters have no concern over anyones health only the thing they live for ... Anti-Tory/Boris hatey guff ... Sad darlings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 At least some teachers have made it into class and still bravely teach the essentials to our young ... https://twitter.com/ThisKafirsAwake/status/1345467439987961862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 colin - 2021-01-03 9:52 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:51 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Could do the same in school. Many checkout people this morning were not wearing face coverings in Tesco,but did have a screen. So kids wear masks and teacher behind a screen. Every day in term time two school busses go down or road both full of infants, I'd say there is a fair chance of transmission there. Then we have the kids playing together in the school. And yes they do as I observe when going past the school. But the argument is not valid, there needs to be a way of getting food to homes, there is no viable way of doing that without supermarkets at this time. Presumably the same then applies to child care workers, they should also not be working according to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 9:52 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 8:52 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 8:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:57 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:42 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:36 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:24 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:21 PM Birdbrain - 2021-01-03 7:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-03 7:12 PM jumpstart - 2021-01-03 7:08 PM Does the same apply to supermarket check out ladies/guys. They are as close to shoppers all day long as teachers to kids ,perhaps supermarkets should also be closed. There is a plexiglass screen and two masks in the equation in the supermarket, its also a limited five minute exchange of air, none of which is applies in the schools. Much bigger turnover of people in a supermarket than a school classroom ... Your argument makes no sense It does when you understand the importance of viral load in covid transmission. You obviously understand it so prove it ... Prove you are more likely to catch Covid in a classroom than in a supermarket ... Off ya pop Farty https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4944 Chuckle ... Did you actually post that in response to my question ??? ... Chuckle ... Where does it address my question in that princess ??? More reading for ya from the same source ... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/high-rate-of-symptomless-covid-19-infection-among-grocery-store-workers/ ... Think before replying From the link Yes, according to a review of the current evidence by the UK’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). Its 18 December report said that the rate of transmission of the variant, known as B.1.1.7 or VUI 202012/01 (variant under investigation, year 2020, month 12, variant 01), was 71% (95% confidence interval 67% to 75%), higher than for other variants, and that it may also have a higher viral load.1 While previous variants have emerged without clear evidence of having a selective advantage, the report noted, the “emergence and subsequent dominance” of this new variant in a period of relatively high prevalence indicated that it does have a “selective advantage over other variants.” The viral load is higher in Hospitals ,Schools,Supermarkets ....anywhere there are a lot of people. So back to the point,Supermarkets are no different than schools. Go and educate yourself on viral load and how it influences the severity of the infection, little hint its not related to the number of people in a space. Viral load is the measure of particles of virus.....more infected people = more viral load. So viral load in Supermarket or School both much the same situation. Viral load depends on how much someone is shedding the virus and how long you are exposed to them, it's why so many health care professionals got so ill before adequate PPE was provided. A teacher will be exposed to a potential threat in the course of the day the day if one child is infected compared to a checkout operator, this takes on particular significance with the new variant that children are more susceptible to. And the supermarket checkout worker is also exposed all day ,so from your own points there is little difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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