Hans Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 This is my third one in the engine bay. and two under the front seats. full lithium power plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 We are seeing some horrendous and even fatal fires started by charging lithium batteries on e-bikes and scooters etc. Apparently the contents of a lithium battery are highly flammable, so water won't put the fire out - it makes it worse since the flammable liquid floats on the water and spreads out. Apparently started by incorrect charging of the lithium battery. Which makes me wonder how safe some of these charging set ups with lithium batteries in motorhomes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 The problems with charging, and discharging, lithium-ion batteries have been known about for years, a friend nearly lost an eye when a small battery exploded when in use. I would never buy a 'cheap' lithium set up from a unknown supplier. The different types of 'lithium batteries' are more, or less, likely to cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Given that since 2008 I have also been riding in winter and in the cold. It's true that I move often, on average at least 100km a day but with diesel heating and two 100Ah gel batteries I've never had autonomy problems and I don't even have a photovoltaic panel. But let's not confuse cell phone batteries with LiFePO4 which are commonly installed on campers. I share the idea that it is better to choose well-known brands and not chinoiserie of unknown quality, perhaps passed off as plug&play. If possible, lithium batteries should be combined with management electronics of the same brand. For example, I've always heard good things about Victron. Max p.s. However I would never put a delicate (and expensive) lithium battery in the engine hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 10:53 AM, Hans said: This is my third one in the engine bay. and two under the front seats. full lithium power plant. Hans, Are you sure this Lithium battery is suitable for use where you have it in your engine bay? From the Super B website the maximum allowable temperatures are and my experience of vehicle engine bay temperatures is that they can easily exceed 100 degrees C. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 2 hours ago, John52 said: We are seeing some horrendous and even fatal fires started by charging lithium batteries on e-bikes and scooters etc. Apparently the contents of a lithium battery are highly flammable, so water won't put the fire out - it makes it worse since the flammable liquid floats on the water and spreads out. Apparently started by incorrect charging of the lithium battery. Which makes me wonder how safe some of these charging set ups with lithium batteries in motorhomes? Super B IS A EXCELLENT COMPANY WHO GIVES EXCELLENT SUPPORT TO MOTORHOMES. aND ALL AROUND. SO YOUR DEALER WILL BE ADVISED. ALL THE ABOVE IS NONSENSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 This late-2019 forum discussion (with a 2022 follow-up) may be of interest. https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/topic/47248-lithium-leisure-batteries/ A GOOGLE-search using recreational vehicle lithium battery dangers as the search-term should also be informative/educational. And there's this 2019 O&AL article (by Clive Mott-Gotobed) about leisure-battery choice and the lithium battery option. https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/articles/practical-advice/the-lowdown-on-leisure-batteries-is-lithium-right-for-your-motorhome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 You will be informed when i will be on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 Instead of freezing to dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david lloyd Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 So you don’t really mind whether it’s a hot or cold death Hans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Lithium battery fires; https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/may/02/e-bike-e-scooter-battery-fires-uk-data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 They have A Bms. battery management system. to protect the system short use at high and low temp. but they should be whit in the recommend temps. And therefore i did not put them yet in the engine bay. It was too evoke reactions and it did. Will be continued later what super b said to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 Here is whatSuper b said. Never used it as a Starter batt for your engine. Sorry for misleading. And i spare you the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 May be off topic but i sold my last Range rover today . Whit tears in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 Superb said that a lot vans LIke MAN have room to put it the engine bay. No problem, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 Warning never use it as a starter battery in your engine bay, Why? comments welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 Some tip they do not like big amps when starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 And have a good look at crank case ventilation. But can not post it in a new topic please help . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I'm not sure where you are going with this... Not all lithium batteries are the same, and batteries primarily intended for 'deep discharge' may well be unsuitable for starting large motors or for installation in a vehicle's engine compartment. However, there are lithium batteries marketed for large-engine starting (example here) https://www.powertechsystems.eu/home/products/12v-lithium-ion-starter-battery/ and, as these are said to be a "direct drop-in replacement" for conventional lead-acid batteries (of all types), presumably they could be fitted in a road-vehicle's engine compartment if that was where the original lead-acid battery was housed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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