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userBarryd999
Posted: 16 September 2018 12:48 PM
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antony1969 - 2018-09-16 3:11 AM

Well thats it then ... Sadicks calling for a second vote ... https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-calls-for-second-brexit-referendum-11499420 ... Friend and relative of quite a few dodgy types and overseer of the murder madness in London calls it ... Second vote it is then ... Hang on a minute ... Thats not what he said about the first neverendum ... https://twitter.com/Change_Britain/status/1041067722786959360 ... Horrible man


Maybe he has "changed his mind!!! Da da Daaaahhh!

Perhaps he has looked at just how badly Brexit is going and took the logical stance that when faced with the prospect of no deal or a crap deal neither of which anyone voted for that it might be a good idea to ask the public if its really what they want.

Sounds sensible to me.


So long as the two questions are........

1)....Do you want to leave with the deal?

2)....Do you want to leave without a deal?

Sounds sensible to me.........we've already been asked if we want to leave ........



How is that sensible? We cant leave without a deal as firstly nobody wants that (least nobody of sound mind ) and we would actually break the law now leaving with no deal and if the deal is as crap as I suspect it will be then people may decide that neither option is acceptable and choose maybe even reluctantly to remain. If the deal delivers everything that the Brexiteers promised it would in 2016 and its all hunky dory then we wont need a vote will we? Lets see what it is huh?

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Posted: 16 September 2018 4:09 PM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 12:48 PM

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antony1969 - 2018-09-16 3:11 AM

Well thats it then ... Sadicks calling for a second vote ... https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-calls-for-second-brexit-referendum-11499420 ... Friend and relative of quite a few dodgy types and overseer of the murder madness in London calls it ... Second vote it is then ... Hang on a minute ... Thats not what he said about the first neverendum ... https://twitter.com/Change_Britain/status/1041067722786959360 ... Horrible man


Maybe he has "changed his mind!!! Da da Daaaahhh!

Perhaps he has looked at just how badly Brexit is going and took the logical stance that when faced with the prospect of no deal or a crap deal neither of which anyone voted for that it might be a good idea to ask the public if its really what they want.

Sounds sensible to me.


So long as the two questions are........

1)....Do you want to leave with the deal?

2)....Do you want to leave without a deal?

Sounds sensible to me.........we've already been asked if we want to leave ........



How is that sensible? We cant leave without a deal as firstly nobody wants that (least nobody of sound mind ) and we would actually break the law now leaving with no deal and if the deal is as crap as I suspect it will be then people may decide that neither option is acceptable and choose maybe even reluctantly to remain. If the deal delivers everything that the Brexiteers promised it would in 2016 and its all hunky dory then we wont need a vote will we? Lets see what it is huh?



So Remoaners don't do sensible .......

You've already agreed any deal will be a bad deal ........

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Posted: 16 September 2018 8:17 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 8:44 AM
If your worried about debt you wont be voting in a Labour government .........


Go On - how does the Mad Hatter work that one out when debt increased far more under the Tories


(despite all the Austerity for the poor because it was dwarfed by tax avoidance by the super-rich)
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Posted: 16 September 2018 8:22 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 4:09 PM
You've already agreed any deal will be a bad deal ........



Err No - the deal promised by the Brexiteers that was voted for would be a good deal and we should accept it.
Any other deal should be given another votie.
Otherwise we will be getting a deal nobody voted for which only the Mad Hatter would think is sensible.



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Posted: 16 September 2018 8:45 PM
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If your worried about debt you wont be voting in a Labour government .........


Go On - how does the Mad Hatter work that one out when debt increased far more under the Tories


(despite all the Austerity for the poor because it was dwarfed by tax avoidance by the super-rich)


Still trying to rewrite history Peter ...........

Everyone knows Labour max'd out the UK's credit card before the crash that Brown helped enable ...............
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Posted: 16 September 2018 9:14 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 8:44 AM
If your worried about debt you wont be voting in a Labour government .........


Go On - how does the Mad Hatter work that one out when debt increased far more under the Tories


(despite all the Austerity for the poor because it was dwarfed by tax avoidance by the super-rich)


Still trying to rewrite history Peter ...........

Everyone knows Labour max'd out the UK's credit card before the crash that Brown helped enable ...............


Everyone who reads the Daily Mail you mean
Wheras those who look at the figures see a different picture




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Posted: 16 September 2018 9:43 PM
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Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.
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Posted: 17 September 2018 5:37 AM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 4:09 PM
So Remoaners don't do sensible .......

And whats sensible to the Mad Hatter.
You believe politicians who tell you Brexit is good for Britain whilst they are getting their own money out of it. Is that sensible
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Posted: 17 September 2018 5:41 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Tax revenues will be hammered.


Especially when they turn the English mainland into another tax haven for the super-rich to welcome back their 'newspaper' owners
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Posted: 17 September 2018 7:04 AM
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Hi.

If you buy a Premium Bond ... I think you have to buy at least 100 now ... HMG owes you £1. That is one pound added to the National Debt. The same applies to National Savings. Isn't "saving" supposed to be a good thing?

If I buy a potatot from you for £5, that five pounds is added to the GDP. If I then sell the same potato back to you, another five pounds is added to the GDP. HMG regard this as a "Good Thing", as they hope to collect some tax on both transactions. I presume that they would rather you bought potato crisps rather than basic potatoes. This system strikes me as being not difficult to cook the books.

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Posted: 17 September 2018 7:13 AM
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Hi,

Looking at the above National Debt chart, I see that Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

The Conservatives have added about 50% in seven years.

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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:24 AM
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W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:04 AM
Isn't "saving" supposed to be a good thing?

I think it was until Osborne decided to give a pre-election boost to the economy by encouraging people to cash in their pensions early - feeling rich because theit house prices had risen as they built less to restrict the supply.
Then counting rent inflation as 'Growth' .
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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:28 AM
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W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:13 AM

Hi,

Looking at the above National Debt chart, I see that Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

The Conservatives have added about 50% in seven years.

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You could get a job on the Daily Mail
National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - Osborne had been calling for even more deregulation but he and the Daily Mail went quiet about that when it lead to the financial crisis.
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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:29 AM
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W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:13 AM

Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

That was NEW Labour.
Should we blame Corbyn for them when he voted against them over 200 times?
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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:31 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.


All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash ..........

Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? .........

BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy ..............

You better not vote in Corbyn ........unless you believe in magic money trees ..........

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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:33 AM
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Hi,

Looking at the above National Debt chart, I see that Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

The Conservatives have added about 50% in seven years.

602


You could get a job on the Daily Mail
National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - Osborne had been calling for even more deregulation but he and the Daily Mail went quiet about that when it lead to the financial crisis.


Has Labour EVER left office with the economy in a better state than when they took it over? ........

Just askin ..........

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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:34 AM
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W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:13 AM

Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

That was NEW Labour.
Should we blame Corbyn for them when he voted against them over 200 times?


So OLD Labour wont feck up the economy??? ...........

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Posted: 18 September 2018 7:30 AM
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<<< National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - >>>

Hi,

If I invest my money (including in a pension pot) I am gambling. I can't remember which government required me to gamble my life savings in an anuity.

If somebody gambles and loses, I do not like the idea that I have to pay to bail them out, but I can accept that some gamblers ... sorry, businesses ... are too big to be allowed to fail. But now we know that mega financial SNAFUs CAN occur, why isn't there a laid down procedure, so that potential perps know what awaits them if they get too cocky wih our money.

It would not surprise me to learn that our local councillors were "encouraged" to invest in the Icelandic banks. I was amazed when I calculated the amount of "spare" cash per resident (on average) that was available for investment, in my little town in Souh Wales.

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Posted: 18 September 2018 10:55 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.


All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash ..........

Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? .........

BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy ..............

You better not vote in Corbyn ........unless you believe in magic money trees ..........



Does it prove that? I agree that it is showing signs of increasing as Labour leave and the Tories take over but they have had eight years to reduce it and its still spiralling out of control. Austerity hasnt helped it would seem but it probably did help swing the Brexit vote which ironically could also see Labour getting back into government. If that happens it will be you the Brexiteers who voted Corbyn in.

Oh the Irony.
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Posted: 18 September 2018 11:00 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-18 10:55 AM

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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.


All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash ..........

Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? .........

BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy ..............

You better not vote in Corbyn ........unless you believe in magic money trees ..........



Does it prove that? I agree that it is showing signs of increasing as Labour leave and the Tories take over but they have had eight years to reduce it and its still spiralling out of control. Austerity hasnt helped it would seem but it probably did help swing the Brexit vote which ironically could also see Labour getting back into government. If that happens it will be you the Brexiteers who voted Corbyn in.

Oh the Irony.


Will he get in? ..............By now any half decent opposition should be way out in front in the polls .......

The way things are going.......come next election they'll be 2 Labour parties and 2 Tory parties to vote for ...........

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Posted: 22 September 2018 9:20 AM
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Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.
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Posted: 22 September 2018 11:02 AM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


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Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........

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Posted: 23 September 2018 3:08 PM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


"John52

Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?

Edited by John52 2018-09-23 3:13 PM
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Posted: 24 September 2018 9:10 AM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


"John52

Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?


So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? ...........

Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy ........










Edited by pelmetman 2018-09-24 9:12 AM
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Posted: 24 September 2018 5:12 PM
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Hi,

The thought crossed my mind toay, that the Remoaners suggestion that we can influence EU decision making by remaining ... Influence from the inside ... could similarly apply to British Jews.

They should join the Labour Party.

I wonder if there are enough Jews in England to make that idea work? Probably not, otherwise Corbyn would not be against them.

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Posted: 25 September 2018 3:15 PM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


"John52

Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?


So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? ...........

Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy ........










I've never denied being a free enterprise Capitalist
Which is why I object to Government intervention in the housing market to produce a rent extracting economy - effectively Socialism for the rich - posing as free enterprise.
I'm only a Communist when measured by Mad Hatter standards
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Posted: 25 September 2018 3:43 PM
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All around the world those who claim to be socialists are only socialists with everyone else's money but with their own money they tend to be capitalists.
I suppose that is what makes them such experts at the hypocrisy they accuse others of?
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Posted: 25 September 2018 4:15 PM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


"John52

Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: Could Theresa be getting it right?

Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?


So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? ...........

Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy ........










I've never denied being a free enterprise Capitalist
Which is why I object to Government intervention in the housing market to produce a rent extracting economy - effectively Socialism for the rich - posing as free enterprise.
I'm only a Communist when measured by Mad Hatter standards


But your a typical Socialist hypocrite measured by anyone's standards ...........

VOTE LABOUR.......VOTE HYPOCRITES .........

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Posted: 28 September 2018 12:21 PM
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Tracker - 2018-09-25 3:43 PM

only socialists with everyone else's money


Since, (unlike your Tory Brextremists domiciled in Her Unelected Majesty's Tax Havens) I am paying my full share of taxes its my money too.

Edited by John52 2018-09-28 12:22 PM
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Posted: 28 September 2018 12:39 PM
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only socialists with everyone else's money


Since, (unlike your Tory Brextremists domiciled in Her Unelected Majesty's Tax Havens) I am paying my full share of taxes its my money too.


You do know what domiciled means? ..........ie they don't live here so can only stay for a maximum of 6 months........which is why I only spend 5 months in Spain.......because I'm domiciled in the UK ........

https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa

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