Guest pelmetman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-17 8:28 AM W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:13 AM Hi, Looking at the above National Debt chart, I see that Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power. The Conservatives have added about 50% in seven years. 602 You could get a job on the Daily Mail (lol) National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - Osborne had been calling for even more deregulation but he and the Daily Mail went quiet about that when it lead to the financial crisis. Has Labour EVER left office with the economy in a better state than when they took it over? >:-) ........ Just askin :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-17 8:29 AM W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:13 AM Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power. That was NEW Labour. Should we blame Corbyn for them when he voted against them over 200 times? So OLD Labour wont feck up the economy??? 8-) ........... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3526602 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 <<< National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - >>> Hi, If I invest my money (including in a pension pot) I am gambling. I can't remember which government required me to gamble my life savings in an anuity. If somebody gambles and loses, I do not like the idea that I have to pay to bail them out, but I can accept that some gamblers ... sorry, businesses ... are too big to be allowed to fail. But now we know that mega financial SNAFUs CAN occur, why isn't there a laid down procedure, so that potential perps know what awaits them if they get too cocky wih our money. It would not surprise me to learn that our local councillors were "encouraged" to invest in the Icelandic banks. I was amazed when I calculated the amount of "spare" cash per resident (on average) that was available for investment, in my little town in Souh Wales. 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-17 8:31 AM Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell. How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered. All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash *-) .......... Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? >:-) ......... BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy :-| .............. You better not vote in Corbyn :D ........unless you believe in magic money trees (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Does it prove that? I agree that it is showing signs of increasing as Labour leave and the Tories take over but they have had eight years to reduce it and its still spiralling out of control. Austerity hasnt helped it would seem but it probably did help swing the Brexit vote which ironically could also see Labour getting back into government. If that happens it will be you the Brexiteers who voted Corbyn in. Oh the Irony. (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-09-18 10:55 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-17 8:31 AM Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell. How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered. All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash *-) .......... Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? >:-) ......... BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy :-| .............. You better not vote in Corbyn :D ........unless you believe in magic money trees (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Does it prove that? I agree that it is showing signs of increasing as Labour leave and the Tories take over but they have had eight years to reduce it and its still spiralling out of control. Austerity hasnt helped it would seem but it probably did help swing the Brexit vote which ironically could also see Labour getting back into government. If that happens it will be you the Brexiteers who voted Corbyn in. Oh the Irony. (lol) Will he get in? ;-) ..............By now any half decent opposition should be way out in front in the polls :D ....... The way things are going.......come next election they'll be 2 Labour parties and 2 Tory parties to vote for >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high. I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high. I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain. "John52 Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM Subject: RE: Could Theresa be getting it right? Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad" Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? >:-) ......... Unless you were being hypocritical again? *-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-22 11:02 AM John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high. I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain. "John52 Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM Subject: RE: Could Theresa be getting it right? Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad" Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? >:-) ......... Unless you were being hypocritical again? *-) .......... Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-23 3:08 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-22 11:02 AM John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high. I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain. "John52 Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM Subject: RE: Could Theresa be getting it right? Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad" Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? >:-) ......... Unless you were being hypocritical again? *-) .......... Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing? So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? >:-) ........... Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3526602 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hi, The thought crossed my mind toay, that the Remoaners suggestion that we can influence EU decision making by remaining ... Influence from the inside ... could similarly apply to British Jews. They should join the Labour Party. I wonder if there are enough Jews in England to make that idea work? Probably not, otherwise Corbyn would not be against them. 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-24 9:10 AM John52 - 2018-09-23 3:08 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-22 11:02 AM John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high. I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain. "John52 Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM Subject: RE: Could Theresa be getting it right? Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad" Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? >:-) ......... Unless you were being hypocritical again? *-) .......... Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing? So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? >:-) ........... Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy *-) ........ I've never denied being a free enterprise Capitalist Which is why I object to Government intervention in the housing market to produce a rent extracting economy - effectively Socialism for the rich - posing as free enterprise. I'm only a Communist when measured by Mad Hatter standards :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 All around the world those who claim to be socialists are only socialists with everyone else's money but with their own money they tend to be capitalists. I suppose that is what makes them such experts at the hypocrisy they accuse others of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-25 3:15 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-24 9:10 AM John52 - 2018-09-23 3:08 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-22 11:02 AM John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high. I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain. "John52 Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM Subject: RE: Could Theresa be getting it right? Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad" Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? >:-) ......... Unless you were being hypocritical again? *-) .......... Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing? So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? >:-) ........... Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy *-) ........ I've never denied being a free enterprise Capitalist Which is why I object to Government intervention in the housing market to produce a rent extracting economy - effectively Socialism for the rich - posing as free enterprise. I'm only a Communist when measured by Mad Hatter standards :D But your a typical Socialist hypocrite measured by anyone's standards *-) ........... VOTE LABOUR.......VOTE HYPOCRITES >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Tracker - 2018-09-25 3:43 PM only socialists with everyone else's money Since, (unlike your Tory Brextremists domiciled in Her Unelected Majesty's Tax Havens) I am paying my full share of taxes its my money too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-28 12:21 PM Tracker - 2018-09-25 3:43 PM only socialists with everyone else's money Since, (unlike your Tory Brextremists domiciled in Her Unelected Majesty's Tax Havens) I am paying my full share of taxes its my money too. You do know what domiciled means? ;-) ..........ie they don't live here so can only stay for a maximum of 6 months........which is why I only spend 5 months in Spain.......because I'm domiciled in the UK :D ........ https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3526602 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Hi, France, and several other countries have a WEALTH tax. Presumably that means that if you live in France, or whereever, you pay tax to the French Government, and then you have to pay more tax on "wealth" that you have anywhere in the world. I recently heard of somebody paying taxes to Norway, on property he owned in Scotland. That should concentrate the minds of off-shore investors. 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 W3526602 - 2018-09-28 4:16 PM That should concentrate the minds of off-shore investors. 602 It already has. Corbyn has proposed something similar, so all the 'newspaper' owners domiciled in HM Tax Havens are trying to put the skids under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3526602 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 <<< Corbyn has proposed something similar, >>> Hi John 52, I can't argue with that, assuming you are correct. :-D I understood that two people are forbidden to do anything right. The first is the Prime Minister (any Prime Minister), and that covers the second ... the self-appointed Prime Minister in Waiting. Did Corbyn suggest what wealth would be needed to make one eligible to pay this tax? How does that figure compare with Corbyn's declared wealth. To keep things fair, the tax should be payable on either .... Any income earned on that wealth in UK, or ... The assumed interest that would be earned IF it was invested in the UK. The Treasury can then set the rate to encourage this wealth to be stored in the UK. When we bought our hovel in France, we were told that due to the change from Francs to the Euro, many French peasants had to launder their wealth from a "under the mattress" into derelict property ... with, no doubt, a few Francs being lost or gained on the way. 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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