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userantony1969
Posted: 17 January 2019 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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antony1969 - 2019-01-16 6:06 PM

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pelmetman - 2019-01-16 2:12 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879


£20 million over 10 years ... How many folk in Huddersfield Barry , do the maths on how much each Huddersfield type person has benefitted each year out of that £20 million and then take away how much Huddersfield as part of the UK has given that crookedy club over the 10 years ... Ye , not a good return is it


Its a fair chunk of money. If we pay in roughly 8 million a year to the EU thats about £13 each or summut I Reckon and if there are 140000 or so in Huddersfield its about 38 million over ten years so you have got over half of it back in development plus all the other benefits of trade and investment etc.

That was done on my Diane Abbot back of a fag packet calculator though so may not be totally accurate.


What the finkety is that ... Explain
userBulletguy
Posted: 17 January 2019 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 1:14 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-16 6:06 PM

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pelmetman - 2019-01-16 2:12 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879

Good heavens.....£20 million of EU money? Blimey just look at the list

Financed and created 1,270 new jobs.

Another EU funded scheme supported more than 120 creative businesses, creating over 70 new jobs.

Assistance given to 1,062 small and medium sized enterprises, with a further 75 receiving financial support.

416 community organisations and social enterprises have been granted EU assistance.

EU money has been put towards the development of 21 hectares of derelict or contaminated land in the borough.

Huddersfield University’s Creative Arts and 3M Buckley Innovation Centre buildings were constructed thanks to EU money.

A project to deliver training for residents of deprived parts of Huddersfield was funded through EU cash.

Construction in the Community (CiC) gave participants the opportunity to learn skills in brickwork and joinery, electrical skills and plumbing.

The Government’s Priority School Building Programme has received loans from the European Investment Bank.

A £2m project to launch Kirklees Youth Enterprise Centre at Rawthorpe was part EU funded.

EU cash went towards the Primrose Hill Solar Village.

Kirklees flagship revamp of Richmond Flats, now known as Harold Wilson Court, was partly funded by money from Europe. New features such as solar panels, triple glazing, insulation and other environmental features were paid for by Brussels.

EU cash has also gone towards insulation projects of council homes in Golcar and Dewsbury.

EU money went towards the Media Centre, Ray Street Enterprise Centre and Bretton Business Park in Dewsbury.

£1.8m of ERDF cash was used to transform a former gasworks, then the largest brownfield site in Kirklees, into Bretton Business Park. It is now home to many thriving businesses and about 130 new jobs were created by the project.
userBarryd999
Posted: 17 January 2019 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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antony1969 - 2019-01-17 3:52 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 3:46 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-17 2:15 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 1:14 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-16 6:06 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 5:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 2:12 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879


£20 million over 10 years ... How many folk in Huddersfield Barry , do the maths on how much each Huddersfield type person has benefitted each year out of that £20 million and then take away how much Huddersfield as part of the UK has given that crookedy club over the 10 years ... Ye , not a good return is it


Its a fair chunk of money. If we pay in roughly 8 million a year to the EU thats about £13 each or summut I Reckon and if there are 140000 or so in Huddersfield its about 38 million over ten years so you have got over half of it back in development plus all the other benefits of trade and investment etc.

That was done on my Diane Abbot back of a fag packet calculator though so may not be totally accurate.


What the finkety is that ... Explain


I told yer, I used me Diane Abbot calculator which isnt very reliable but there are roughly 60 million people in the UK isnt there? 8 million quid divided by 60 million is 13 quid a year each to cough up (probably). I googled the population of Huddersfield which is about 140000 depending which bits you include so their contribution over ten years would be about 38 million quid but just look at what you have had back.

The above is probably miles out but you get the idea. Now just look at what Bullet has highlighted!

You should all be running around waving EU flags down there!

Edited by Barryd999 2019-01-17 5:25 PM
userantony1969
Posted: 17 January 2019 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 5:24 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-17 3:52 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 3:46 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-17 2:15 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 1:14 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-16 6:06 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 5:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 2:12 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879


£20 million over 10 years ... How many folk in Huddersfield Barry , do the maths on how much each Huddersfield type person has benefitted each year out of that £20 million and then take away how much Huddersfield as part of the UK has given that crookedy club over the 10 years ... Ye , not a good return is it


Its a fair chunk of money. If we pay in roughly 8 million a year to the EU thats about £13 each or summut I Reckon and if there are 140000 or so in Huddersfield its about 38 million over ten years so you have got over half of it back in development plus all the other benefits of trade and investment etc.

That was done on my Diane Abbot back of a fag packet calculator though so may not be totally accurate.


What the finkety is that ... Explain


I told yer, I used me Diane Abbot calculator which isnt very reliable but there are roughly 60 million people in the UK isnt there? 8 million quid divided by 60 million is 13 quid a year each to cough up (probably). I googled the population of Huddersfield which is about 140000 depending which bits you include so their contribution over ten years would be about 38 million quid but just look at what you have had back.

The above is probably miles out but you get the idea. Now just look at what Bullet has highlighted!

You should all be running around waving EU flags down there!


Who gives a fig what night crawler Bullet says ... You dint say how much Huddersfield types have contributed in the same period , you aint deducted that off I see
userantony1969
Posted: 17 January 2019 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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Bulletguy - 2019-01-17 5:14 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 1:14 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-16 6:06 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 5:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 2:12 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879

Good heavens.....£20 million of EU money? Blimey just look at the list

Financed and created 1,270 new jobs.

Another EU funded scheme supported more than 120 creative businesses, creating over 70 new jobs.

Assistance given to 1,062 small and medium sized enterprises, with a further 75 receiving financial support.

416 community organisations and social enterprises have been granted EU assistance.

EU money has been put towards the development of 21 hectares of derelict or contaminated land in the borough.

Huddersfield University’s Creative Arts and 3M Buckley Innovation Centre buildings were constructed thanks to EU money.

A project to deliver training for residents of deprived parts of Huddersfield was funded through EU cash.

Construction in the Community (CiC) gave participants the opportunity to learn skills in brickwork and joinery, electrical skills and plumbing.

The Government’s Priority School Building Programme has received loans from the European Investment Bank.

A £2m project to launch Kirklees Youth Enterprise Centre at Rawthorpe was part EU funded.

EU cash went towards the Primrose Hill Solar Village.

Kirklees flagship revamp of Richmond Flats, now known as Harold Wilson Court, was partly funded by money from Europe. New features such as solar panels, triple glazing, insulation and other environmental features were paid for by Brussels.

EU cash has also gone towards insulation projects of council homes in Golcar and Dewsbury.

EU money went towards the Media Centre, Ray Street Enterprise Centre and Bretton Business Park in Dewsbury.

£1.8m of ERDF cash was used to transform a former gasworks, then the largest brownfield site in Kirklees, into Bretton Business Park. It is now home to many thriving businesses and about 130 new jobs were created by the project.


You seem to know a lot ... Lets take the first claim youve highlighted in your angry bold ... What were those jobs created ???
userBarryd999
Posted: 17 January 2019 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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antony1969 - 2019-01-17 5:29 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 5:24 PM

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Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 3:46 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-17 2:15 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 1:14 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-16 6:06 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 5:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 2:12 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879


£20 million over 10 years ... How many folk in Huddersfield Barry , do the maths on how much each Huddersfield type person has benefitted each year out of that £20 million and then take away how much Huddersfield as part of the UK has given that crookedy club over the 10 years ... Ye , not a good return is it


Its a fair chunk of money. If we pay in roughly 8 million a year to the EU thats about £13 each or summut I Reckon and if there are 140000 or so in Huddersfield its about 38 million over ten years so you have got over half of it back in development plus all the other benefits of trade and investment etc.

That was done on my Diane Abbot back of a fag packet calculator though so may not be totally accurate.


What the finkety is that ... Explain


I told yer, I used me Diane Abbot calculator which isnt very reliable but there are roughly 60 million people in the UK isnt there? 8 million quid divided by 60 million is 13 quid a year each to cough up (probably). I googled the population of Huddersfield which is about 140000 depending which bits you include so their contribution over ten years would be about 38 million quid but just look at what you have had back.

The above is probably miles out but you get the idea. Now just look at what Bullet has highlighted!

You should all be running around waving EU flags down there!


Who gives a fig what night crawler Bullet says ... You dint say how much Huddersfield types have contributed in the same period , you aint deducted that off I see


I did, I said about £38m over ten years according to Dianes maths. So you have had over half that back in funding plus all the lovely benefits of trade, investment, free market, being able to run around in sunny Europe all summer making lurv an that.
userantony1969
Posted: 17 January 2019 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 6:45 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-17 5:29 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 5:24 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-17 3:52 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 3:46 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-17 2:15 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-17 1:14 PM

antony1969 - 2019-01-16 6:06 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 5:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 2:12 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879


£20 million over 10 years ... How many folk in Huddersfield Barry , do the maths on how much each Huddersfield type person has benefitted each year out of that £20 million and then take away how much Huddersfield as part of the UK has given that crookedy club over the 10 years ... Ye , not a good return is it


Its a fair chunk of money. If we pay in roughly 8 million a year to the EU thats about £13 each or summut I Reckon and if there are 140000 or so in Huddersfield its about 38 million over ten years so you have got over half of it back in development plus all the other benefits of trade and investment etc.

That was done on my Diane Abbot back of a fag packet calculator though so may not be totally accurate.


What the finkety is that ... Explain


I told yer, I used me Diane Abbot calculator which isnt very reliable but there are roughly 60 million people in the UK isnt there? 8 million quid divided by 60 million is 13 quid a year each to cough up (probably). I googled the population of Huddersfield which is about 140000 depending which bits you include so their contribution over ten years would be about 38 million quid but just look at what you have had back.

The above is probably miles out but you get the idea. Now just look at what Bullet has highlighted!

You should all be running around waving EU flags down there!


Who gives a fig what night crawler Bullet says ... You dint say how much Huddersfield types have contributed in the same period , you aint deducted that off I see


I did, I said about £38m over ten years according to Dianes maths. So you have had over half that back in funding plus all the lovely benefits of trade, investment, free market, being able to run around in sunny Europe all summer making lurv an that.


So in Huddersfield we've contributed £38 million over 10 years to get £20 million back ??? ... Sounds about right to me
userBulletguy
Posted: 17 January 2019 8:35 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 5:45 PM

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Barryd999 - 2019-01-16 2:09 PM


For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879

Good heavens.....£20 million of EU money? Blimey just look at the list

Financed and created 1,270 new jobs.

Another EU funded scheme supported more than 120 creative businesses, creating over 70 new jobs.

Assistance given to 1,062 small and medium sized enterprises, with a further 75 receiving financial support.

416 community organisations and social enterprises have been granted EU assistance.

EU money has been put towards the development of 21 hectares of derelict or contaminated land in the borough.

Huddersfield University’s Creative Arts and 3M Buckley Innovation Centre buildings were constructed thanks to EU money.

A project to deliver training for residents of deprived parts of Huddersfield was funded through EU cash.

Construction in the Community (CiC) gave participants the opportunity to learn skills in brickwork and joinery, electrical skills and plumbing.

The Government’s Priority School Building Programme has received loans from the European Investment Bank.

A £2m project to launch Kirklees Youth Enterprise Centre at Rawthorpe was part EU funded.

EU cash went towards the Primrose Hill Solar Village.

Kirklees flagship revamp of Richmond Flats, now known as Harold Wilson Court, was partly funded by money from Europe. New features such as solar panels, triple glazing, insulation and other environmental features were paid for by Brussels.

EU cash has also gone towards insulation projects of council homes in Golcar and Dewsbury.

EU money went towards the Media Centre, Ray Street Enterprise Centre and Bretton Business Park in Dewsbury.

£1.8m of ERDF cash was used to transform a former gasworks, then the largest brownfield site in Kirklees, into Bretton Business Park. It is now home to many thriving businesses and about 130 new jobs were created by the project.


You seem to know a lot ... Lets take the first claim youve highlighted in your angry bold ... What were those jobs created ???

Phone 'em up or email 'em......it's "your" local paper that ran the article.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/contact-us/
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For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879

Good heavens.....£20 million of EU money? Blimey just look at the list

Financed and created 1,270 new jobs.

Another EU funded scheme supported more than 120 creative businesses, creating over 70 new jobs.

Assistance given to 1,062 small and medium sized enterprises, with a further 75 receiving financial support.

416 community organisations and social enterprises have been granted EU assistance.

EU money has been put towards the development of 21 hectares of derelict or contaminated land in the borough.

Huddersfield University’s Creative Arts and 3M Buckley Innovation Centre buildings were constructed thanks to EU money.

A project to deliver training for residents of deprived parts of Huddersfield was funded through EU cash.

Construction in the Community (CiC) gave participants the opportunity to learn skills in brickwork and joinery, electrical skills and plumbing.

The Government’s Priority School Building Programme has received loans from the European Investment Bank.

A £2m project to launch Kirklees Youth Enterprise Centre at Rawthorpe was part EU funded.

EU cash went towards the Primrose Hill Solar Village.

Kirklees flagship revamp of Richmond Flats, now known as Harold Wilson Court, was partly funded by money from Europe. New features such as solar panels, triple glazing, insulation and other environmental features were paid for by Brussels.

EU cash has also gone towards insulation projects of council homes in Golcar and Dewsbury.

EU money went towards the Media Centre, Ray Street Enterprise Centre and Bretton Business Park in Dewsbury.

£1.8m of ERDF cash was used to transform a former gasworks, then the largest brownfield site in Kirklees, into Bretton Business Park. It is now home to many thriving businesses and about 130 new jobs were created by the project.


Still spreading the myth it was EU cash ..........

Perhaps we could get them to give us some of our cash back to pay the £140 million a year it costs to keep their criminals in our prisons? ............




Edited by pelmetman 2019-01-17 10:42 PM
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For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879

Good heavens.....£20 million of EU money? Blimey just look at the list

Financed and created 1,270 new jobs.

Another EU funded scheme supported more than 120 creative businesses, creating over 70 new jobs.

Assistance given to 1,062 small and medium sized enterprises, with a further 75 receiving financial support.

416 community organisations and social enterprises have been granted EU assistance.

EU money has been put towards the development of 21 hectares of derelict or contaminated land in the borough.

Huddersfield University’s Creative Arts and 3M Buckley Innovation Centre buildings were constructed thanks to EU money.

A project to deliver training for residents of deprived parts of Huddersfield was funded through EU cash.

Construction in the Community (CiC) gave participants the opportunity to learn skills in brickwork and joinery, electrical skills and plumbing.

The Government’s Priority School Building Programme has received loans from the European Investment Bank.

A £2m project to launch Kirklees Youth Enterprise Centre at Rawthorpe was part EU funded.

EU cash went towards the Primrose Hill Solar Village.

Kirklees flagship revamp of Richmond Flats, now known as Harold Wilson Court, was partly funded by money from Europe. New features such as solar panels, triple glazing, insulation and other environmental features were paid for by Brussels.

EU cash has also gone towards insulation projects of council homes in Golcar and Dewsbury.

EU money went towards the Media Centre, Ray Street Enterprise Centre and Bretton Business Park in Dewsbury.

£1.8m of ERDF cash was used to transform a former gasworks, then the largest brownfield site in Kirklees, into Bretton Business Park. It is now home to many thriving businesses and about 130 new jobs were created by the project.


Still spreading the myth it was EU cash ..........

Perhaps we could get them to give us some of our cash back to pay the £140 million a year it costs to keep their criminals in our prisons? ............

Feel free to disprove or challenge what the Huddersfield Examiner reported but simply wailing it's all "a myth" isn't enough. Please enlighten us all as i'm sure many on here would love to hear what inane excuses you can muster up. If struggling, you can use the "contact us" link i've posted for your 'partner'.
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For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879

Good heavens.....£20 million of EU money? Blimey just look at the list

Financed and created 1,270 new jobs.

Another EU funded scheme supported more than 120 creative businesses, creating over 70 new jobs.

Assistance given to 1,062 small and medium sized enterprises, with a further 75 receiving financial support.

416 community organisations and social enterprises have been granted EU assistance.

EU money has been put towards the development of 21 hectares of derelict or contaminated land in the borough.

Huddersfield University’s Creative Arts and 3M Buckley Innovation Centre buildings were constructed thanks to EU money.

A project to deliver training for residents of deprived parts of Huddersfield was funded through EU cash.

Construction in the Community (CiC) gave participants the opportunity to learn skills in brickwork and joinery, electrical skills and plumbing.

The Government’s Priority School Building Programme has received loans from the European Investment Bank.

A £2m project to launch Kirklees Youth Enterprise Centre at Rawthorpe was part EU funded.

EU cash went towards the Primrose Hill Solar Village.

Kirklees flagship revamp of Richmond Flats, now known as Harold Wilson Court, was partly funded by money from Europe. New features such as solar panels, triple glazing, insulation and other environmental features were paid for by Brussels.

EU cash has also gone towards insulation projects of council homes in Golcar and Dewsbury.

EU money went towards the Media Centre, Ray Street Enterprise Centre and Bretton Business Park in Dewsbury.

£1.8m of ERDF cash was used to transform a former gasworks, then the largest brownfield site in Kirklees, into Bretton Business Park. It is now home to many thriving businesses and about 130 new jobs were created by the project.


You seem to know a lot ... Lets take the first claim youve highlighted in your angry bold ... What were those jobs created ???

Phone 'em up or email 'em......it's "your" local paper that ran the article.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/contact-us/


Half a job Bullet ... Now its come to the tricky part hes running off ... typical
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For nearly a decade I worked across the entire region with hundreds of businesses from sole traders with no employees up to businesses with up to a £50m turnover as part of a team of ten with a multi million pound budget much of which was often EU money. .


Correction OUR MONEY ............



Well it is and it isn't., its way more complex than that. If you believed any of the stuff put out by the remain campaign in 2016 we get ten times back in terms of trade, jobs, investment etc by being members than what we pay in.
Of course you wont believe any of that, you just look at the bottom line of what goes out.


I can tell you though from first hand experience of working on funding and funded ICT / business projects in outreach and rural areas or places like the North East the EU are far more likely to fund stuff than our government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-10 in all those places. If the economy tanks and there is even less money to fund important projects or to inject money into areas that are suffering in your post Brexit world what chance of it coming from our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party?


Don't get me wrong, the EU funding schemes are as big a PIA to deal with as UK government funding schemes at times and the irony is a lot of the key areas that voted out received more EU Funding than areas that voted to remain without doubt. Trouble is most of them probably had no idea. Im pretty sure most of the businesses I helped fund had no idea where the money was coming from or cared.


Ehhh ??? ... "our Government who pretty much slashed most of the public sector funding in 2008-2010" ... Not a mention that was a Labour Government yet further down the rant "our Austerity obsessed feckwit Tory party" ... Go figure


Labour had little choice given the s**t storm that was bestowed upon us but funding under the Tories has been worse ever since and they have a track record of ignoring places like the North East and no doubt west Yorkshire. I suspect most of them wont even have heard of Huddersfield. Seems the EU have though. £20m you little feckers have had!!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/eu-referendum-huddersfield-brexit-remain-11460879

Good heavens.....£20 million of EU money? Blimey just look at the list

Financed and created 1,270 new jobs.

Another EU funded scheme supported more than 120 creative businesses, creating over 70 new jobs.

Assistance given to 1,062 small and medium sized enterprises, with a further 75 receiving financial support.

416 community organisations and social enterprises have been granted EU assistance.

EU money has been put towards the development of 21 hectares of derelict or contaminated land in the borough.

Huddersfield University’s Creative Arts and 3M Buckley Innovation Centre buildings were constructed thanks to EU money.

A project to deliver training for residents of deprived parts of Huddersfield was funded through EU cash.

Construction in the Community (CiC) gave participants the opportunity to learn skills in brickwork and joinery, electrical skills and plumbing.

The Government’s Priority School Building Programme has received loans from the European Investment Bank.

A £2m project to launch Kirklees Youth Enterprise Centre at Rawthorpe was part EU funded.

EU cash went towards the Primrose Hill Solar Village.

Kirklees flagship revamp of Richmond Flats, now known as Harold Wilson Court, was partly funded by money from Europe. New features such as solar panels, triple glazing, insulation and other environmental features were paid for by Brussels.

EU cash has also gone towards insulation projects of council homes in Golcar and Dewsbury.

EU money went towards the Media Centre, Ray Street Enterprise Centre and Bretton Business Park in Dewsbury.

£1.8m of ERDF cash was used to transform a former gasworks, then the largest brownfield site in Kirklees, into Bretton Business Park. It is now home to many thriving businesses and about 130 new jobs were created by the project.


Still spreading the myth it was EU cash ..........

Perhaps we could get them to give us some of our cash back to pay the £140 million a year it costs to keep their criminals in our prisons? ............

Feel free to disprove or challenge what the Huddersfield Examiner reported but simply wailing it's all "a myth" isn't enough. Please enlighten us all as i'm sure many on here would love to hear what inane excuses you can muster up. If struggling, you can use the "contact us" link i've posted for your 'partner'.


Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......

BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

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Posted: 18 January 2019 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!
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Posted: 18 January 2019 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!


That's a euro a week too much as far as I'm concerned .........

I prefer to decide which EU countries get my money ..........



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Bulletguy - 2019-01-17 8:35 PM

Phone 'em up or email 'em......it's "your" local paper that ran the article.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/contact-us/


Half a job Bullet ... Now its come to the tricky part hes running off ... typical

Nope, nothing to "run off" from.....you're the sceptic who when faced with an overwhelming amount of evidence from your own local newspaper not suiting your agenda, engage in your usual habit of wanting every minutiae. I posted a link for you listing numbers and email contacts, including the Editor, who would have further information, but either you aren't really interested, or afraid. I think it's both.
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Posted: 18 January 2019 10:58 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!
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Posted: 19 January 2019 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........

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Posted: 19 January 2019 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: Sunderland
 


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pelmetman - 2019-01-19 9:41 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........



What are we now then? French?

Im a bit gobsmacked that Bullet thinks you can have a night on the lash for just £20-£30 though. Im not sure you would get a cab home for that.
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Posted: 19 January 2019 11:01 AM
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Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........



What are we now then? French?

Im a bit gobsmacked that Bullet thinks you can have a night on the lash for just £20-£30 though. Im not sure you would get a cab home for that.


We're EU lackeys ........

30 quid in Spain will get you a 3 course meal for two with wine ............

Or 20 bottles of decent wine ..........

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pelmetman - 2019-01-19 11:01 AM

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pelmetman - 2019-01-19 9:41 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........



What are we now then? French?

Im a bit gobsmacked that Bullet thinks you can have a night on the lash for just £20-£30 though. Im not sure you would get a cab home for that.


We're EU lackeys ........

30 quid in Spain will get you a 3 course meal for two with wine ............

Or 20 bottles of decent wine ..........



Yeah egg and chips down Sweaty Betty's dont count washed down with some local 1950 vintage (As in made at ten to eight the previous evening).

twenty quid outside my favourite little bar on the foothills of Mont Ventoux in Provence (Thats France by the way) would get four half carafes of decent wine and all the nibbles I could eat with change. I cant see boozing in rip off UK going down after Brexit, well certainly not the stuff I drink as it all comes from Europe.

Edited by Barryd999 2019-01-19 2:19 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-01-19 11:01 AM...………………...
We're EU lackeys ........
30 quid in Spain will get you a 3 course meal for two with wine ............
Or 20 bottles of decent wine ..........

So, you don't want to be French, but being Spanish would be OK? So presumably, you think that if we were Spanish, 30 quid would also get you a 3 course meal for two with wine or 20 bottles of decent wine . Where do you get this stuff?
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Posted: 19 January 2019 4:33 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........

Given your known track record i find that remark very insincere. If you "liked being British" as much as you claim you'd embrace the multiculturalism you spend your time railing against.
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Posted: 19 January 2019 4:48 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-01-19 9:41 AM

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Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........



What are we now then? French?

Im a bit gobsmacked that Bullet thinks you can have a night on the lash for just £20-£30 though. Im not sure you would get a cab home for that.

I was trying to be "generous" Barry so as not to make the paltry €1 per week seem so harsh!
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pelmetman - 2019-01-19 11:01 AM...………………...
We're EU lackeys ........
30 quid in Spain will get you a 3 course meal for two with wine ............
Or 20 bottles of decent wine ..........

So, you don't want to be French, but being Spanish would be OK? So presumably, you think that if we were Spanish, 30 quid would also get you a 3 course meal for two with wine or 20 bottles of decent wine . Where do you get this stuff?

He wants that "bit" to spend his annual wintering in Spain waving his padron and permits at UK immigration.
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Brian Kirby - 2019-01-19 4:32 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-19 11:01 AM...………………...
We're EU lackeys ........
30 quid in Spain will get you a 3 course meal for two with wine ............
Or 20 bottles of decent wine ..........

So, you don't want to be French, but being Spanish would be OK? So presumably, you think that if we were Spanish, 30 quid would also get you a 3 course meal for two with wine or 20 bottles of decent wine . Where do you get this stuff?


Who said anything about becoming Spanish? .............

I'm 100% British.....when I'm in France or Spain or anywhere else I'm still British ...........and unlike some on here I'm not ashamed to be British .......

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Bulletguy - 2019-01-19 4:33 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-19 9:41 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........

Given your known track record i find that remark very insincere. If you "liked being British" as much as you claim you'd embrace the multiculturalism you spend your time railing against.


If you think my objecting to the rape of children, by folk from a certain culture is me railing against multiculturalism..........then you'd be dead right..........I like being a true Brit.........because we call out perverts ........ not cover up for them ............



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pelmetman - 2019-01-20 9:23 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-01-19 4:33 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-19 9:41 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........

Given your known track record i find that remark very insincere. If you "liked being British" as much as you claim you'd embrace the multiculturalism you spend your time railing against.


If you think my objecting to the rape of children, by folk from a certain culture is me railing against multiculturalism..........then you'd be dead right..........I like being a true Brit.........because we call out perverts ........ not cover up for them ............





Bullet "embraces the multiculturalism" so much he lives well away from it and when he solo tours where does he go ??? Countries hardly touched by it ... After 3 ... HYPOCRITE
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Posted: 20 January 2019 3:35 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-01-19 9:41 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-01-18 10:58 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 5:13 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:18 AM.........……………….
Where did the EU get the money from?..........US ...........ergo they gave us back some of our money .......
BTW £20 million is not a lot when compared to the £140 million a year it costs us to lock up their criminals is it? .............

Stop fretting, Dave, and go here: http://tinyurl.com/bu8s8km

Your net personal contribution to the EU is about €1 per week!

Amazingly cheap isn't it? A tv licence costs more than three times that amount and folk think nothing of peeing 20 or 30 quid down the drain on a nights boozing......but the whingers whine about the EU "taking all our money"!


It's not just the money Bullet ..........

Some of us like being British ..........

Given your known track record i find that remark very insincere. If you "liked being British" as much as you claim you'd embrace the multiculturalism you spend your time railing against.


If you think my objecting to the rape of children, by folk from a certain culture is me railing against multiculturalism..........then you'd be dead right..........I like being a true Brit.........because we call out perverts ........ not cover up for them ............

To understand the definition of multiculturalism you have to acknowledge all cultural or racial groups have equality in society and that means every ethnic minority as well as the indigenous race. You don't, hence your claim to "like being British" is insincere and false and railing against one specific ethnicity committing crime whilst completely ignoring the same committed by people from the indigenous populace shows your hatred and unwillingness to accept our multicultural society in Britain.

Regards criminal offences, we have a judicial system in this country which for the most part works pretty well in ensuring due process for everyone irrespective of race, ethnicity, faith or whatever else. That means when someone is arrested that doesn't make them guilty of the alleged offence. We have Law Courts to determine guilt or innocence only after anyone has been charged....not before. That's the way our justice system works and will continue to do so whether you like it or not.

No crimes should be 'covered up' irrespective of the nature of the offence as that in itself is an offence. We've had some long running examples such as Hillsborough and more currently the ongoing inquiry into Grenfell which has yet to see any prosecutions.

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Bulletguy - 2019-01-20 3:35 PM

No crimes should be 'covered up' irrespective of the nature of the offence as that in itself is an offence. We've had some long running examples such as Hillsborough and more currently the ongoing inquiry into Grenfell which has yet to see any prosecutions.


So you'll be wanting to see prosecutions of those who turned a blind eye to the grooming of kids? ............

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