monique.hubrechtsgm Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 The bear is a symbol as a bear on the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Deneb - 2018-02-13 11:05 PM John52 - 2018-02-13 8:15 PM I was shocked to see the youtube movie on Derek's weblink of the thief opening locked X2/50 rear doors with a screwdriver in a few seconds. So have drilled holes through both rear doors to slide a rod through to act as a bolt. That's what the ProPlates prevent, since they effectively encase the lock mechanism in a steel box substantially thicker than the door skin. Well I couldn't see where the thief had got in from the photo on Derek's link. But it said The tell-tale sign is the small mark in the plastic handle where a screwdriver has been pushed in. The weakness is that because the handle is plastic, it can be pushed out of the way to manipulate the locking mechanism. The other method used is to simply pull the lock out of the plastic housing' - and I don't know how extra plates would prevent that? I can't really try it without wrecking the handle. And being a cheapskate the idea of a bolt appealed to me :D I just cut the U bolt from a bike lock in half, stripped off the plastic, cut it tolength and rounded the ends. Hadest bit was accurate measuring to line up the 4 holes which would ave been easy with a long enough drill bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-23 4:58 PM Well I couldn't see where the thief had got in from the photo on Derek's link. But it said The tell-tale sign is the small mark in the plastic handle where a screwdriver has been pushed in. Along the bottom edge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Keithl - 2018-02-23 6:00 PM John52 - 2018-02-23 4:58 PM Well I couldn't see where the thief had got in from the photo on Derek's link. But it said The tell-tale sign is the small mark in the plastic handle where a screwdriver has been pushed in. Along the bottom edge... Ah Thanks for that. Don't know whether plates would prevent the other method he talked about 'pull the lock out of the plastic housing' I've seen some with different locks fitted so perhaps not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtemps Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 If anyone is in any doubt (I was, but there again I can be a little slow on the uptake!) official Fiat representatives were spoken to at the NEC Exhibition last week to ascertain what the situation is. They confirmed that on bases produced for the camper market, the deadlock option is not included as standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monique.hubrechtsgm Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The bearlock is a key controlled gear lock on a manual gear box. Not sure if it is adaptlable to the fiat comfortmatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 If you do get trapped in an X250 van with an electrical fault preventing you opening the deadlocked doors there is a way out. To the right of the door handle (pic) there is a rectangular opening covered by a plastic plate. Wiggle the rod behind that and the lock will release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneb Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-25 11:13 AM If you do get trapped in an X250 van with an electrical fault preventing you opening the deadlocked doors there is a way out. To the right of the door handle (pic) there is a rectangular opening covered by a plastic plate. Wiggle the rod behind that and the lock will release. Unless as with my van, you would need to have been locked in with your toolkit, and able to dismantle the rear bench seat base, remove the internal window frame, the upholstered window surround panel, the internal door handle and then the full height rear door trim panel to obtain access to that aperture in the door skin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Deneb - 2018-02-25 11:38 AM John52 - 2018-02-25 11:13 AM If you do get trapped in an X250 van with an electrical fault preventing you opening the deadlocked doors there is a way out. To the right of the door handle (pic) there is a rectangular opening covered by a plastic plate. Wiggle the rod behind that and the lock will release. Unless as with my van, you would need to have been locked in with your toolkit, and able to dismantle the rear bench seat base, remove the internal window frame, the upholstered window surround panel, the internal door handle and then the full height rear door trim panel to obtain access to that aperture in the door skin! Might have to take a sharp knife and cut a hole in that. Whats the alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneb Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-25 11:41 AM Might have to take a sharp knife and cut a hole in that. Whats the alternative? Cutting a hole would allow anyone who forced the window and put their arm in direct access to the lock mechanism. I never set the deadlocks when we are in the van and prefer to rely on the proplates for lock protection together with the perimeter alarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monique.hubrechtsgm Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Whatever, i go for the mechanical locks even if the egine is running but you can not put it in first gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Deneb - 2018-02-25 12:39 PM John52 - 2018-02-25 11:41 AM Might have to take a sharp knife and cut a hole in that. Whats the alternative? Cutting a hole would allow anyone who forced the window and put their arm in direct access to the lock mechanism. I never set the deadlocks when we are in the van and prefer to rely on the proplates for lock protection together with the perimeter alarm. I meant cutting a hole as a last resort if you were trapped in the van with the deadlocks on. The photo shows the location so you know where to cut the hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneb Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 John52 - 2018-02-26 7:20 PM I meant cutting a hole as a last resort if you were trapped in the van with the deadlocks on. The photo shows the location so you know where to cut the hole I won't be though, because I never deadlock the doors when we are in the van, only when leaving it unattended. Otherwise, I'd have to travel around with a drill and a hole saw, but if things did get that bad I think I'd just climb out a window ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Deneb - 2018-02-27 8:40 AM I never deadlock the doors when we are in the van I deadlock the doors because its the only way I know they are locked when in the van. And I couldn't get through the window :$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonaldson Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I fitted deadlocks to my old Talbot Kontiki many moons ago. They are just like deadbolts you put in interior doors but use fancy hollow keys to operate them on outside. As said can only operate them from outside with key though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmdgts Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Did you find a solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I believe you’ll need to identify who you are asking ;-) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmdgts Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2018-01-31 12:20 PM I note that X290 Ducatos can be specified with factory fitted deadlocks. These work to prevent the doors (I assume cab doors only) being opened by breaking a window and reaching in to use the internal door releases. Activated by a double press on the remote "lock" button. Does anyone have a van so equipped? If so, do you find them satisfactory in normal use? Further, has anyone investigated getting these locks retro-fitted? If so, what were the complications and approximate cost please? It seems it should be relatively simple to do, but is it? :-D Brian, Did you find a solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmdgts Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Derek Uzzell - 2019-03-06 3:46 PM I believe you’ll need to identify who you are asking ;-) ;-) Opps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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