Guest pelmetman Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 6:31 PM MPs have voted to extend Brexit beyond 29 March by backing a government motion forced on Theresa May by the Commons. The motion, which May was forced to agree to if her own Brexit plan was defeated again, as it was on Tuesday, decrees that the government will seek agreement with the EU for an extension to article 50 beyond that date. It was passed by 412 votes to 202. The motion says that if a Brexit plan is agreed by 20 March then this would be a brief, technical extension until 30 June – if not, it says, it would probably involve a longer period, and the UK taking part in upcoming European elections. Better reset your countdown...... The opportunity to give the EU another kicking in polls would be ample compensation for having to reset the UK freedom clock B-) ........... Curiously the EU doesn't seem that keen on us taking part .......I cant think why? >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-15 8:30 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 6:31 PM MPs have voted to extend Brexit beyond 29 March by backing a government motion forced on Theresa May by the Commons. The motion, which May was forced to agree to if her own Brexit plan was defeated again, as it was on Tuesday, decrees that the government will seek agreement with the EU for an extension to article 50 beyond that date. It was passed by 412 votes to 202. The motion says that if a Brexit plan is agreed by 20 March then this would be a brief, technical extension until 30 June – if not, it says, it would probably involve a longer period, and the UK taking part in upcoming European elections. Better reset your countdown...... The opportunity to give the EU another kicking in polls would be ample compensation for having to reset the UK freedom clock B-) ........... Curiously the EU doesn't seem that keen on us taking part .......I cant think why? >:-) ....... I wouldnt be so sure about that actually. Farage will split the anti Brexit vote with his new party and from what I have seen on social media groups there are wheels in motion already to support Pro EU candidates in any possible EU elections. Depends who will be best at getting people out to vote in elections ironically they are not usually that fussed about. I bet you cannot even name your MEP(s). Im in direct contact with mine (well apart from the UKIP one) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-15 3:04 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-15 8:30 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 6:31 PM MPs have voted to extend Brexit beyond 29 March by backing a government motion forced on Theresa May by the Commons. The motion, which May was forced to agree to if her own Brexit plan was defeated again, as it was on Tuesday, decrees that the government will seek agreement with the EU for an extension to article 50 beyond that date. It was passed by 412 votes to 202. The motion says that if a Brexit plan is agreed by 20 March then this would be a brief, technical extension until 30 June – if not, it says, it would probably involve a longer period, and the UK taking part in upcoming European elections. Better reset your countdown...... The opportunity to give the EU another kicking in polls would be ample compensation for having to reset the UK freedom clock B-) ........... Curiously the EU doesn't seem that keen on us taking part .......I cant think why? >:-) ....... I wouldnt be so sure about that actually. Farage will split the anti Brexit vote with his new party and from what I have seen on social media groups there are wheels in motion already to support Pro EU candidates in any possible EU elections. Depends who will be best at getting people out to vote in elections ironically they are not usually that fussed about. I bet you cannot even name your MEP(s). Im in direct contact with mine (well apart from the UKIP one) (lol) I guess we'll have to wait and see ;-) ...........at the moment the EU doesn't look that keen on allowing us extend article 50 to include the elections........especially as the "Losers Vote" seems to have been kicked into touch :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Happy Ten Days Everyone :D .......... My how the time has flown 8-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-19 8:40 AM Happy Ten Days Everyone :D .......... My how the time has flown 8-) ........ To you Dave n'all ... Time has flown ... Weve had tears , dummies thrown , hissy fits , more tears , name calling after name calling by the remain side and that's just on here ... Will Brexit happen as we wanted it and just about everyone I know wanted it ??? One thing is for sure come next election we are guna have a lot of ex MPs looking for work and Brexit has made me realise what a sad lot half the country are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 NINE :D ......... The count down has begun B-) .........Until the EU kicks us out >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 "The European commission opposes extending British membership of the European Union to June 30 as British prime minister Theresa May proposed on Wednesday, according to an EU document seen by Reuters. In a note on the Brexit process reviewed by the commission at its weekly meeting on Wednesday, officials wrote that leaders meeting May at a summit on Thursday faced a “binary” choice of a short delay of Brexit from March 29 to before May 23 or a long delay to at least the end of this year, with Britain obliged to hold an election on May 23 for European parliament lawmakers. “Any extension offered to the United Kingdom should either last until 23 May 2019 or should be significantly longer and require European elections,” the document said. “This is the only way of protecting the functioning of the EU institutions and their ability to take decisions.” EU states which were due to receive additional legislative seats after Brexit would need to know by mid- to late April if they would be denied those seats because Britain was staying. The note also said that in any extended membership, Britain should, “in a spirit of loyal cooperation”, commit to “constructive abstention” on key issues, such as the EU’s long-term budget and filling top EU posts after the May election." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 No deal is looking promising B-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 EIGHT :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 SEVEN.......ish :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-22 7:48 AM SEVEN.......ish :D ........ Nope, do try to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-22 8:26 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-22 7:48 AM SEVEN.......ish :D ........ Nope, do try to keep up. Maybe.....maybe not :D .......... I guess we'll have to wait and see if MP's kick out May's deal ;-) ......... Hopefully they will........she'll walk.......and I'll be able help put a proper Brexiteer in charge of the Tories B-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-22 8:40 AM Fast Pat - 2019-03-22 8:26 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-22 7:48 AM SEVEN.......ish :D ........ Nope, do try to keep up. Maybe.....maybe not :D .......... I guess we'll have to wait and see if MP's kick out May's deal ;-) ......... Hopefully they will........she'll walk.......and I'll be able help put a proper Brexiteer in charge of the Tories B-) .......... Should be 7 ... But as we know those who voted for article 50 lied when they said they would honour the vote and a no deal scenario ... Time to clean out the Westminster cesspit ... Vile people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 SIX......or ..........Eighteen :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 So if May forces through her "Deal" parliament then has to make pass the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, thankfully there's nothing controversial in it: Once passed, the Withdrawal Agreement Bill will: "Keep parts of the European Communities Act in force for the duration of the transition period. This will allow the UK to update its statute book to reflect new EU laws that come into force in the transition, and will preserve the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice Make citizens’ rights provisions of the withdrawal agreement directly enforceable in the UK so that EU citizens in the UK can enforce those rights in the UK courts Create an “independent monitoring authority” to police the UK’s compliance with the citizens’ rights part of the withdrawal agreement at the end of the transition period Give the Withdrawal Agreement, and any EU law incorporated into the Withdrawal Agreement, a form of “supremacy” over UK law Give the UK courts new instructions on their relationship with the European Court of Justice Give ministers powers to make payments to the EU under the “financial settlement” (the divorce bill). It will also have to set out a domestic process for the commencement of the Irish border backstop." https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/withdrawal-agreement-bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-03-23 10:38 AM So if May forces through her "Deal" parliament then has to make pass the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, thankfully there's nothing controversial in it: Once passed, the Withdrawal Agreement Bill will: "Keep parts of the European Communities Act in force for the duration of the transition period. This will allow the UK to update its statute book to reflect new EU laws that come into force in the transition, and will preserve the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice Make citizens’ rights provisions of the withdrawal agreement directly enforceable in the UK so that EU citizens in the UK can enforce those rights in the UK courts Create an “independent monitoring authority” to police the UK’s compliance with the citizens’ rights part of the withdrawal agreement at the end of the transition period Give the Withdrawal Agreement, and any EU law incorporated into the Withdrawal Agreement, a form of “supremacy” over UK law Give the UK courts new instructions on their relationship with the European Court of Justice Give ministers powers to make payments to the EU under the “financial settlement” (the divorce bill). It will also have to set out a domestic process for the commencement of the Irish border backstop." https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/withdrawal-agreement-bill Cant say I have a problem with a transition period? ;-) .......... So what's your period problem? >:-) ......... Shortage of Tampax? :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-23 2:00 PM...…………………………..Cant say I have a problem with a transition period? ;-) .......... That's not what you've been saying up to now, Dave. Changed you mind? :-D Transition period = single market + customs union + present regulations on movement of workers + people + capital, and goods, plus NI backstop until alternative arrangements are negotiated. But NI backstop = Irish Border = Common Travel Area + Belfast Agreement + border controls (which would breach the Belfast Agreement.). In short, UK remains in EU (but with no say on what future regulations the EU might introduce) until someone solves the Irish Border riddle. So, a vassal state until the 12th of never. Great scheme, not! :-D Taxation with no representation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-23 6:35 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-23 2:00 PM...…………………………..Cant say I have a problem with a transition period? ;-) .......... That's not what you've been saying up to now, Dave. Changed you mind? :-D Transition period = single market + customs union + present regulations on movement of workers + people + capital, and goods, plus NI backstop until alternative arrangements are negotiated. But NI backstop = Irish Border = Common Travel Area + Belfast Agreement + border controls (which would breach the Belfast Agreement.). In short, UK remains in EU (but with no say on what future regulations the EU might introduce) until someone solves the Irish Border riddle. So, a vassal state until the 12th of never. Great scheme, not! :-D Taxation with no representation! Do we really have to do the NI argument again Brian ? *-) .......... Gawd you Remoaners are nothing but boring "and" repetitive ;-) ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-23 6:43 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-23 6:35 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-23 2:00 PM...…………………………..Cant say I have a problem with a transition period? ;-) .......... That's not what you've been saying up to now, Dave. Changed you mind? :-D Transition period = single market + customs union + present regulations on movement of workers + people + capital, and goods, plus NI backstop until alternative arrangements are negotiated. But NI backstop = Irish Border = Common Travel Area + Belfast Agreement + border controls (which would breach the Belfast Agreement.). In short, UK remains in EU (but with no say on what future regulations the EU might introduce) until someone solves the Irish Border riddle. So, a vassal state until the 12th of never. Great scheme, not! :-D Taxation with no representation! Do we really have to do the NI argument again Brian ? *-) .......... Gawd you Remoaners are nothing but boring "and" repetitive ;-) ...... Stumped again eh Pelmet..how many times is this now!!? Brian and FP got you tied up in one post!! (lol) Or is just all about having a "win"? :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 FIVE........or.......SEVENTEEN :D ........ Tick tock goes the Brexit clock B-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 FOUR........OR........SIXTEEN :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 THREE.......or......FIFTEEN :D ........ I wonder how many days May's got left? ;-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-26 7:17 AM THREE.......or......FIFTEEN :D ........ I wonder how many days May's got left? ;-) .......... Is that three or fifteen days or three or fifteen years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-26 7:43 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-26 7:17 AM THREE.......or......FIFTEEN :D ........ I wonder how many days May's got left? ;-) .......... Is that three or fifteen days or three or fifteen years? Currently worse case scenario is 15 days ;-) .......... Unless May gets her deal......if not then the EU will prolly kick us out anyway >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Well you might be right about them kicking us out and I wouldnt blame them to be honest. However its equally likely that when her deal fails again that we will end up in a much longer extension hence my question about three or fifteen years. That would be better for you anyway otherwise what will you have to do all day if its all over in 15 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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