Guest pelmetman Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 1:39 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 11:46 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 11:04 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 10:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:01 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 5:06 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 4:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 4:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 2:29 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 8:24 AM Just goes to show what a broad church the Brexit Party is :D ........ Jeeeesaz! You expect us to sit through half an hour of that bat sh1t crazy old bag lady? FFS! *-) Gerrofff! It's funny how you don't use the same language about the Loony Lefties on here? ;-) ...... Oh I forgot they only become batsh1t crazy if they're not sniffing the same EU gravy s**t you're on >:-) .......... Oh I can use equally bad language about loony lefties an all if you like. What gravy train? Nobody gives me "real" money anymore. I got paid big bucks as a consultant but ive not done any of that stuff for nearly ten years. Most of it came from the Tory government!! (lol) Some from the EU. :D I got paid well though because just like the EU for every pound they spent on me they got probably ten back in terms of growth trade and investment!! My team probably saved the North East single handedly from going under in the last recession. No, dont thank me. Kinda just proved my gravy point ;-) ..... Errr quite the opposite I think but back to you celebrating the appointment of the raving communist Claire Fox, member of the Revolutionary Communist party. In 1993 IRA bomb attacks killed 2 children in Warrington. The bombings were roundly condemned by everyone except the Revolutionary Communist party who said “we defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. One of the leaders of the RCP then was Claire Fox. Claire is now standing for the Brexit party in NW England which includes the town of Warrington. What an insult to the people of that place yet your celebrating her appointment. Oh yeah, she also is known for her views that the Government should not ban people from watching child porn and Jihadi terrorist videos. Is this the depths you and your beloved Brexit party are now prepared to stoop? She's obviously seen the error of her Loony lefty ways B-) .......... Should we deny those who are changing their views and heading along the path of RIGHTeousness? :D ........ She just proves there's hope for all you Remoaners...........Repent whilst you still can Barry >:-) ....... Yeah right. Odd then that you have spent years spouting stuff about Corbyn and his dodgy history (not that I am a Corbyn fan of course). This woman makes him look like a saint in comparison but if you want to support a party that is standing someone who is a full fat commie that openly supported the IRA killing children and is ok with child porn then thats your choice. Eh? :-S ...........I've been spouting stuff about Corbyn ever since he emerged out of the Labour cesspit *-) ....... As far as I'm aware the lady in question is a "Former" Communist and Loony Lefty ;-) ........ Where as Corbyn & Co are deffo full fat Communists >:-) ......... Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The stuff you have said about loony lefties and Corbyns past on here is endless. I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will back me up on that yet here you are supporting someone who is far worse! She was even apposed to the Good Friday agreement and thats not that long ago. Thats the trouble when you start supporting extremist parties. They tend to attract, errrr, Extremist politicians and supporters of terrorism in her case. They are not always far right extremists either. The far left are equally as bat sh1t crazy. She's rattled you cage ain't she Barry? (lol) ........... Best not read any of the comments or you'll prolly have a coronary 8-) ........ Not at all. Im just sat here laughing at the fact that you currently have a thread about Corbyn being a communist blah blah blah yet here you are on another thread supporting a party with a candidate that makes Corbyn look about as left as Enoch Powell. (lol) you couldnt make it up. As for the youtube comments well I never even watched the video. Why would I waste my time listening to a crazy mad Commie bag lady? You sure your right wing "Comrade"? Got summat you want to tell us? She's a ex crazy mad Commie bag lady ;-) .......... There's nothing "Ex" about Corbyn's Communism :-| ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-04-30 2:21 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 1:39 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 11:46 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 11:04 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 10:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:01 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 5:06 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 4:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 4:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 2:29 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 8:24 AM Just goes to show what a broad church the Brexit Party is :D ........ Jeeeesaz! You expect us to sit through half an hour of that bat sh1t crazy old bag lady? FFS! *-) Gerrofff! It's funny how you don't use the same language about the Loony Lefties on here? ;-) ...... Oh I forgot they only become batsh1t crazy if they're not sniffing the same EU gravy s**t you're on >:-) .......... Oh I can use equally bad language about loony lefties an all if you like. What gravy train? Nobody gives me "real" money anymore. I got paid big bucks as a consultant but ive not done any of that stuff for nearly ten years. Most of it came from the Tory government!! (lol) Some from the EU. :D I got paid well though because just like the EU for every pound they spent on me they got probably ten back in terms of growth trade and investment!! My team probably saved the North East single handedly from going under in the last recession. No, dont thank me. Kinda just proved my gravy point ;-) ..... Errr quite the opposite I think but back to you celebrating the appointment of the raving communist Claire Fox, member of the Revolutionary Communist party. In 1993 IRA bomb attacks killed 2 children in Warrington. The bombings were roundly condemned by everyone except the Revolutionary Communist party who said “we defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. One of the leaders of the RCP then was Claire Fox. Claire is now standing for the Brexit party in NW England which includes the town of Warrington. What an insult to the people of that place yet your celebrating her appointment. Oh yeah, she also is known for her views that the Government should not ban people from watching child porn and Jihadi terrorist videos. Is this the depths you and your beloved Brexit party are now prepared to stoop? She's obviously seen the error of her Loony lefty ways B-) .......... Should we deny those who are changing their views and heading along the path of RIGHTeousness? :D ........ She just proves there's hope for all you Remoaners...........Repent whilst you still can Barry >:-) ....... Yeah right. Odd then that you have spent years spouting stuff about Corbyn and his dodgy history (not that I am a Corbyn fan of course). This woman makes him look like a saint in comparison but if you want to support a party that is standing someone who is a full fat commie that openly supported the IRA killing children and is ok with child porn then thats your choice. Eh? :-S ...........I've been spouting stuff about Corbyn ever since he emerged out of the Labour cesspit *-) ....... As far as I'm aware the lady in question is a "Former" Communist and Loony Lefty ;-) ........ Where as Corbyn & Co are deffo full fat Communists >:-) ......... Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The stuff you have said about loony lefties and Corbyns past on here is endless. I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will back me up on that yet here you are supporting someone who is far worse! She was even apposed to the Good Friday agreement and thats not that long ago. Thats the trouble when you start supporting extremist parties. They tend to attract, errrr, Extremist politicians and supporters of terrorism in her case. They are not always far right extremists either. The far left are equally as bat sh1t crazy. She's rattled you cage ain't she Barry? (lol) ........... Best not read any of the comments or you'll prolly have a coronary 8-) ........ Not at all. Im just sat here laughing at the fact that you currently have a thread about Corbyn being a communist blah blah blah yet here you are on another thread supporting a party with a candidate that makes Corbyn look about as left as Enoch Powell. (lol) you couldnt make it up. As for the youtube comments well I never even watched the video. Why would I waste my time listening to a crazy mad Commie bag lady? You sure your right wing "Comrade"? Got summat you want to tell us? She's a ex crazy mad Commie bag lady ;-) .......... There's nothing "Ex" about Corbyn's Communism :-| ...... Ah right I see. So you can go from being an extreme far left commie that supports terrorism and who thinks the killing of children by the IRA is acceptable as is looking at child porn to being an upstanding respectable middle of the road MEP just in a few years? Dont think so. It just shows exactly what I was saying. Your supporting extremists and the far left and the far right are not as far apart as you would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 2:21 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 1:39 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 11:46 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 11:04 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 10:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:01 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 5:06 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 4:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 4:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 2:29 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 8:24 AM Just goes to show what a broad church the Brexit Party is :D ........ Jeeeesaz! You expect us to sit through half an hour of that bat sh1t crazy old bag lady? FFS! *-) Gerrofff! It's funny how you don't use the same language about the Loony Lefties on here? ;-) ...... Oh I forgot they only become batsh1t crazy if they're not sniffing the same EU gravy s**t you're on >:-) .......... Oh I can use equally bad language about loony lefties an all if you like. What gravy train? Nobody gives me "real" money anymore. I got paid big bucks as a consultant but ive not done any of that stuff for nearly ten years. Most of it came from the Tory government!! (lol) Some from the EU. :D I got paid well though because just like the EU for every pound they spent on me they got probably ten back in terms of growth trade and investment!! My team probably saved the North East single handedly from going under in the last recession. No, dont thank me. Kinda just proved my gravy point ;-) ..... Errr quite the opposite I think but back to you celebrating the appointment of the raving communist Claire Fox, member of the Revolutionary Communist party. In 1993 IRA bomb attacks killed 2 children in Warrington. The bombings were roundly condemned by everyone except the Revolutionary Communist party who said “we defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. One of the leaders of the RCP then was Claire Fox. Claire is now standing for the Brexit party in NW England which includes the town of Warrington. What an insult to the people of that place yet your celebrating her appointment. Oh yeah, she also is known for her views that the Government should not ban people from watching child porn and Jihadi terrorist videos. Is this the depths you and your beloved Brexit party are now prepared to stoop? She's obviously seen the error of her Loony lefty ways B-) .......... Should we deny those who are changing their views and heading along the path of RIGHTeousness? :D ........ She just proves there's hope for all you Remoaners...........Repent whilst you still can Barry >:-) ....... Yeah right. Odd then that you have spent years spouting stuff about Corbyn and his dodgy history (not that I am a Corbyn fan of course). This woman makes him look like a saint in comparison but if you want to support a party that is standing someone who is a full fat commie that openly supported the IRA killing children and is ok with child porn then thats your choice. Eh? :-S ...........I've been spouting stuff about Corbyn ever since he emerged out of the Labour cesspit *-) ....... As far as I'm aware the lady in question is a "Former" Communist and Loony Lefty ;-) ........ Where as Corbyn & Co are deffo full fat Communists >:-) ......... Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The stuff you have said about loony lefties and Corbyns past on here is endless. I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will back me up on that yet here you are supporting someone who is far worse! She was even apposed to the Good Friday agreement and thats not that long ago. Thats the trouble when you start supporting extremist parties. They tend to attract, errrr, Extremist politicians and supporters of terrorism in her case. They are not always far right extremists either. The far left are equally as bat sh1t crazy. She's rattled you cage ain't she Barry? (lol) ........... Best not read any of the comments or you'll prolly have a coronary 8-) ........ Not at all. Im just sat here laughing at the fact that you currently have a thread about Corbyn being a communist blah blah blah yet here you are on another thread supporting a party with a candidate that makes Corbyn look about as left as Enoch Powell. (lol) you couldnt make it up. As for the youtube comments well I never even watched the video. Why would I waste my time listening to a crazy mad Commie bag lady? You sure your right wing "Comrade"? Got summat you want to tell us? She's a ex crazy mad Commie bag lady ;-) .......... There's nothing "Ex" about Corbyn's Communism :-| ...... Ah right I see. So you can go from being an extreme far left commie that supports terrorism and who thinks the killing of children by the IRA is acceptable as is looking at child porn to being an upstanding respectable middle of the road MEP just in a few years? Dont think so. It just shows exactly what I was saying. Your supporting extremists and the far left and the far right are not as far apart as you would think. Nope it just shows how desperate you Remoaners are to denigrate Brexiteers ;-) ........... I'm sure you're doing wonders for changing Brexiteers minds........keep up the good work :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-01 7:22 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 2:21 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 1:39 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 11:46 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 11:04 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 10:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:01 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 5:06 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 4:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 4:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 2:29 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 8:24 AM Just goes to show what a broad church the Brexit Party is :D ........ Jeeeesaz! You expect us to sit through half an hour of that bat sh1t crazy old bag lady? FFS! *-) Gerrofff! It's funny how you don't use the same language about the Loony Lefties on here? ;-) ...... Oh I forgot they only become batsh1t crazy if they're not sniffing the same EU gravy s**t you're on >:-) .......... Oh I can use equally bad language about loony lefties an all if you like. What gravy train? Nobody gives me "real" money anymore. I got paid big bucks as a consultant but ive not done any of that stuff for nearly ten years. Most of it came from the Tory government!! (lol) Some from the EU. :D I got paid well though because just like the EU for every pound they spent on me they got probably ten back in terms of growth trade and investment!! My team probably saved the North East single handedly from going under in the last recession. No, dont thank me. Kinda just proved my gravy point ;-) ..... Errr quite the opposite I think but back to you celebrating the appointment of the raving communist Claire Fox, member of the Revolutionary Communist party. In 1993 IRA bomb attacks killed 2 children in Warrington. The bombings were roundly condemned by everyone except the Revolutionary Communist party who said “we defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. One of the leaders of the RCP then was Claire Fox. Claire is now standing for the Brexit party in NW England which includes the town of Warrington. What an insult to the people of that place yet your celebrating her appointment. Oh yeah, she also is known for her views that the Government should not ban people from watching child porn and Jihadi terrorist videos. Is this the depths you and your beloved Brexit party are now prepared to stoop? She's obviously seen the error of her Loony lefty ways B-) .......... Should we deny those who are changing their views and heading along the path of RIGHTeousness? :D ........ She just proves there's hope for all you Remoaners...........Repent whilst you still can Barry >:-) ....... Yeah right. Odd then that you have spent years spouting stuff about Corbyn and his dodgy history (not that I am a Corbyn fan of course). This woman makes him look like a saint in comparison but if you want to support a party that is standing someone who is a full fat commie that openly supported the IRA killing children and is ok with child porn then thats your choice. Eh? :-S ...........I've been spouting stuff about Corbyn ever since he emerged out of the Labour cesspit *-) ....... As far as I'm aware the lady in question is a "Former" Communist and Loony Lefty ;-) ........ Where as Corbyn & Co are deffo full fat Communists >:-) ......... Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The stuff you have said about loony lefties and Corbyns past on here is endless. I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will back me up on that yet here you are supporting someone who is far worse! She was even apposed to the Good Friday agreement and thats not that long ago. Thats the trouble when you start supporting extremist parties. They tend to attract, errrr, Extremist politicians and supporters of terrorism in her case. They are not always far right extremists either. The far left are equally as bat sh1t crazy. She's rattled you cage ain't she Barry? (lol) ........... Best not read any of the comments or you'll prolly have a coronary 8-) ........ Not at all. Im just sat here laughing at the fact that you currently have a thread about Corbyn being a communist blah blah blah yet here you are on another thread supporting a party with a candidate that makes Corbyn look about as left as Enoch Powell. (lol) you couldnt make it up. As for the youtube comments well I never even watched the video. Why would I waste my time listening to a crazy mad Commie bag lady? You sure your right wing "Comrade"? Got summat you want to tell us? She's a ex crazy mad Commie bag lady ;-) .......... There's nothing "Ex" about Corbyn's Communism :-| ...... Ah right I see. So you can go from being an extreme far left commie that supports terrorism and who thinks the killing of children by the IRA is acceptable as is looking at child porn to being an upstanding respectable middle of the road MEP just in a few years? Dont think so. It just shows exactly what I was saying. Your supporting extremists and the far left and the far right are not as far apart as you would think. Nope it just shows how desperate you Remoaners are to denigrate Brexiteers ;-) ........... I'm sure you're doing wonders for changing Brexiteers minds........keep up the good work :D .......... Your just a total hypocrite Dave. After all the stuff you have said about Corbyn. Just beggars belief. If she had been a remainer fighting for a remain party with that history you would have been on it faster than a tramp on a bag of dropped chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-01 2:43 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-01 7:22 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 2:21 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 1:39 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 11:46 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 11:04 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 10:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:01 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 5:06 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 4:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 4:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 2:29 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 8:24 AM Just goes to show what a broad church the Brexit Party is :D ........ Jeeeesaz! You expect us to sit through half an hour of that bat sh1t crazy old bag lady? FFS! *-) Gerrofff! It's funny how you don't use the same language about the Loony Lefties on here? ;-) ...... Oh I forgot they only become batsh1t crazy if they're not sniffing the same EU gravy s**t you're on >:-) .......... Oh I can use equally bad language about loony lefties an all if you like. What gravy train? Nobody gives me "real" money anymore. I got paid big bucks as a consultant but ive not done any of that stuff for nearly ten years. Most of it came from the Tory government!! (lol) Some from the EU. :D I got paid well though because just like the EU for every pound they spent on me they got probably ten back in terms of growth trade and investment!! My team probably saved the North East single handedly from going under in the last recession. No, dont thank me. Kinda just proved my gravy point ;-) ..... Errr quite the opposite I think but back to you celebrating the appointment of the raving communist Claire Fox, member of the Revolutionary Communist party. In 1993 IRA bomb attacks killed 2 children in Warrington. The bombings were roundly condemned by everyone except the Revolutionary Communist party who said “we defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. One of the leaders of the RCP then was Claire Fox. Claire is now standing for the Brexit party in NW England which includes the town of Warrington. What an insult to the people of that place yet your celebrating her appointment. Oh yeah, she also is known for her views that the Government should not ban people from watching child porn and Jihadi terrorist videos. Is this the depths you and your beloved Brexit party are now prepared to stoop? She's obviously seen the error of her Loony lefty ways B-) .......... Should we deny those who are changing their views and heading along the path of RIGHTeousness? :D ........ She just proves there's hope for all you Remoaners...........Repent whilst you still can Barry >:-) ....... Yeah right. Odd then that you have spent years spouting stuff about Corbyn and his dodgy history (not that I am a Corbyn fan of course). This woman makes him look like a saint in comparison but if you want to support a party that is standing someone who is a full fat commie that openly supported the IRA killing children and is ok with child porn then thats your choice. Eh? :-S ...........I've been spouting stuff about Corbyn ever since he emerged out of the Labour cesspit *-) ....... As far as I'm aware the lady in question is a "Former" Communist and Loony Lefty ;-) ........ Where as Corbyn & Co are deffo full fat Communists >:-) ......... Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The stuff you have said about loony lefties and Corbyns past on here is endless. I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will back me up on that yet here you are supporting someone who is far worse! She was even apposed to the Good Friday agreement and thats not that long ago. Thats the trouble when you start supporting extremist parties. They tend to attract, errrr, Extremist politicians and supporters of terrorism in her case. They are not always far right extremists either. The far left are equally as bat sh1t crazy. She's rattled you cage ain't she Barry? (lol) ........... Best not read any of the comments or you'll prolly have a coronary 8-) ........ Not at all. Im just sat here laughing at the fact that you currently have a thread about Corbyn being a communist blah blah blah yet here you are on another thread supporting a party with a candidate that makes Corbyn look about as left as Enoch Powell. (lol) you couldnt make it up. As for the youtube comments well I never even watched the video. Why would I waste my time listening to a crazy mad Commie bag lady? You sure your right wing "Comrade"? Got summat you want to tell us? She's a ex crazy mad Commie bag lady ;-) .......... There's nothing "Ex" about Corbyn's Communism :-| ...... Ah right I see. So you can go from being an extreme far left commie that supports terrorism and who thinks the killing of children by the IRA is acceptable as is looking at child porn to being an upstanding respectable middle of the road MEP just in a few years? Dont think so. It just shows exactly what I was saying. Your supporting extremists and the far left and the far right are not as far apart as you would think. Nope it just shows how desperate you Remoaners are to denigrate Brexiteers ;-) ........... I'm sure you're doing wonders for changing Brexiteers minds........keep up the good work :D .......... Your just a total hypocrite Dave. After all the stuff you have said about Corbyn. Just beggars belief. If she had been a remainer fighting for a remain party with that history you would have been on it faster than a tramp on a bag of dropped chips. In a war Barry..........You make strange bedfellows ;-) ......... At least she's a former Communist :D ........... Unlike that Corbyn who your prepared to vote for in the EU elections >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-01 2:58 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-01 2:43 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-01 7:22 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 2:21 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 1:39 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 11:46 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 11:04 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 10:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:01 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 5:06 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 4:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 4:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 2:29 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 8:24 AM Just goes to show what a broad church the Brexit Party is :D ........ Jeeeesaz! You expect us to sit through half an hour of that bat sh1t crazy old bag lady? FFS! *-) Gerrofff! It's funny how you don't use the same language about the Loony Lefties on here? ;-) ...... Oh I forgot they only become batsh1t crazy if they're not sniffing the same EU gravy s**t you're on >:-) .......... Oh I can use equally bad language about loony lefties an all if you like. What gravy train? Nobody gives me "real" money anymore. I got paid big bucks as a consultant but ive not done any of that stuff for nearly ten years. Most of it came from the Tory government!! (lol) Some from the EU. :D I got paid well though because just like the EU for every pound they spent on me they got probably ten back in terms of growth trade and investment!! My team probably saved the North East single handedly from going under in the last recession. No, dont thank me. Kinda just proved my gravy point ;-) ..... Errr quite the opposite I think but back to you celebrating the appointment of the raving communist Claire Fox, member of the Revolutionary Communist party. In 1993 IRA bomb attacks killed 2 children in Warrington. The bombings were roundly condemned by everyone except the Revolutionary Communist party who said “we defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. One of the leaders of the RCP then was Claire Fox. Claire is now standing for the Brexit party in NW England which includes the town of Warrington. What an insult to the people of that place yet your celebrating her appointment. Oh yeah, she also is known for her views that the Government should not ban people from watching child porn and Jihadi terrorist videos. Is this the depths you and your beloved Brexit party are now prepared to stoop? She's obviously seen the error of her Loony lefty ways B-) .......... Should we deny those who are changing their views and heading along the path of RIGHTeousness? :D ........ She just proves there's hope for all you Remoaners...........Repent whilst you still can Barry >:-) ....... Yeah right. Odd then that you have spent years spouting stuff about Corbyn and his dodgy history (not that I am a Corbyn fan of course). This woman makes him look like a saint in comparison but if you want to support a party that is standing someone who is a full fat commie that openly supported the IRA killing children and is ok with child porn then thats your choice. Eh? :-S ...........I've been spouting stuff about Corbyn ever since he emerged out of the Labour cesspit *-) ....... As far as I'm aware the lady in question is a "Former" Communist and Loony Lefty ;-) ........ Where as Corbyn & Co are deffo full fat Communists >:-) ......... Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The stuff you have said about loony lefties and Corbyns past on here is endless. I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will back me up on that yet here you are supporting someone who is far worse! She was even apposed to the Good Friday agreement and thats not that long ago. Thats the trouble when you start supporting extremist parties. They tend to attract, errrr, Extremist politicians and supporters of terrorism in her case. They are not always far right extremists either. The far left are equally as bat sh1t crazy. She's rattled you cage ain't she Barry? (lol) ........... Best not read any of the comments or you'll prolly have a coronary 8-) ........ Not at all. Im just sat here laughing at the fact that you currently have a thread about Corbyn being a communist blah blah blah yet here you are on another thread supporting a party with a candidate that makes Corbyn look about as left as Enoch Powell. (lol) you couldnt make it up. As for the youtube comments well I never even watched the video. Why would I waste my time listening to a crazy mad Commie bag lady? You sure your right wing "Comrade"? Got summat you want to tell us? She's a ex crazy mad Commie bag lady ;-) .......... There's nothing "Ex" about Corbyn's Communism :-| ...... Ah right I see. So you can go from being an extreme far left commie that supports terrorism and who thinks the killing of children by the IRA is acceptable as is looking at child porn to being an upstanding respectable middle of the road MEP just in a few years? Dont think so. It just shows exactly what I was saying. Your supporting extremists and the far left and the far right are not as far apart as you would think. Nope it just shows how desperate you Remoaners are to denigrate Brexiteers ;-) ........... I'm sure you're doing wonders for changing Brexiteers minds........keep up the good work :D .......... Your just a total hypocrite Dave. After all the stuff you have said about Corbyn. Just beggars belief. If she had been a remainer fighting for a remain party with that history you would have been on it faster than a tramp on a bag of dropped chips. In a war Barry..........You make strange bedfellows ;-) ......... At least she's a former Communist :D ........... Unlike that Corbyn who your prepared to vote for in the EU elections >:-) ....... A war FFS! (lol) Former communist you say. How do you know? Is corbyn a former IRA sympathiser then? So its ok to forgive and forget that kind of stuff then I take it. Doesnt seem like it on here. Dont ever remember saying I would vote for "him" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-01 4:23 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-01 2:58 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-01 2:43 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-01 7:22 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 2:21 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 2:17 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 1:39 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 11:46 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 11:04 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-30 10:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-04-30 10:01 AM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 5:06 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 4:49 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 4:10 PM Barryd999 - 2019-04-29 2:29 PM pelmetman - 2019-04-29 8:24 AM Just goes to show what a broad church the Brexit Party is :D ........ Jeeeesaz! You expect us to sit through half an hour of that bat sh1t crazy old bag lady? FFS! *-) Gerrofff! It's funny how you don't use the same language about the Loony Lefties on here? ;-) ...... Oh I forgot they only become batsh1t crazy if they're not sniffing the same EU gravy s**t you're on >:-) .......... Oh I can use equally bad language about loony lefties an all if you like. What gravy train? Nobody gives me "real" money anymore. I got paid big bucks as a consultant but ive not done any of that stuff for nearly ten years. Most of it came from the Tory government!! (lol) Some from the EU. :D I got paid well though because just like the EU for every pound they spent on me they got probably ten back in terms of growth trade and investment!! My team probably saved the North East single handedly from going under in the last recession. No, dont thank me. Kinda just proved my gravy point ;-) ..... Errr quite the opposite I think but back to you celebrating the appointment of the raving communist Claire Fox, member of the Revolutionary Communist party. In 1993 IRA bomb attacks killed 2 children in Warrington. The bombings were roundly condemned by everyone except the Revolutionary Communist party who said “we defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. One of the leaders of the RCP then was Claire Fox. Claire is now standing for the Brexit party in NW England which includes the town of Warrington. What an insult to the people of that place yet your celebrating her appointment. Oh yeah, she also is known for her views that the Government should not ban people from watching child porn and Jihadi terrorist videos. Is this the depths you and your beloved Brexit party are now prepared to stoop? She's obviously seen the error of her Loony lefty ways B-) .......... Should we deny those who are changing their views and heading along the path of RIGHTeousness? :D ........ She just proves there's hope for all you Remoaners...........Repent whilst you still can Barry >:-) ....... Yeah right. Odd then that you have spent years spouting stuff about Corbyn and his dodgy history (not that I am a Corbyn fan of course). This woman makes him look like a saint in comparison but if you want to support a party that is standing someone who is a full fat commie that openly supported the IRA killing children and is ok with child porn then thats your choice. Eh? :-S ...........I've been spouting stuff about Corbyn ever since he emerged out of the Labour cesspit *-) ....... As far as I'm aware the lady in question is a "Former" Communist and Loony Lefty ;-) ........ Where as Corbyn & Co are deffo full fat Communists >:-) ......... Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The stuff you have said about loony lefties and Corbyns past on here is endless. I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will back me up on that yet here you are supporting someone who is far worse! She was even apposed to the Good Friday agreement and thats not that long ago. Thats the trouble when you start supporting extremist parties. They tend to attract, errrr, Extremist politicians and supporters of terrorism in her case. They are not always far right extremists either. The far left are equally as bat sh1t crazy. She's rattled you cage ain't she Barry? (lol) ........... Best not read any of the comments or you'll prolly have a coronary 8-) ........ Not at all. Im just sat here laughing at the fact that you currently have a thread about Corbyn being a communist blah blah blah yet here you are on another thread supporting a party with a candidate that makes Corbyn look about as left as Enoch Powell. (lol) you couldnt make it up. As for the youtube comments well I never even watched the video. Why would I waste my time listening to a crazy mad Commie bag lady? You sure your right wing "Comrade"? Got summat you want to tell us? She's a ex crazy mad Commie bag lady ;-) .......... There's nothing "Ex" about Corbyn's Communism :-| ...... Ah right I see. So you can go from being an extreme far left commie that supports terrorism and who thinks the killing of children by the IRA is acceptable as is looking at child porn to being an upstanding respectable middle of the road MEP just in a few years? Dont think so. It just shows exactly what I was saying. Your supporting extremists and the far left and the far right are not as far apart as you would think. Nope it just shows how desperate you Remoaners are to denigrate Brexiteers ;-) ........... I'm sure you're doing wonders for changing Brexiteers minds........keep up the good work :D .......... Your just a total hypocrite Dave. After all the stuff you have said about Corbyn. Just beggars belief. If she had been a remainer fighting for a remain party with that history you would have been on it faster than a tramp on a bag of dropped chips. In a war Barry..........You make strange bedfellows ;-) ......... At least she's a former Communist :D ........... Unlike that Corbyn who your prepared to vote for in the EU elections >:-) ....... A war FFS! (lol) Former communist you say. How do you know? Is corbyn a former IRA sympathiser then? So its ok to forgive and forget that kind of stuff then I take it. Doesnt seem like it on here. Dont ever remember saying I would vote for "him" either. Corbyn is not a "former" IRA sympathiser as his lack of condemnation of their recent murder attests :-| ........ You said you would vote for your Labour MEP........ergo You'll be voting for Corbyn......ie You're a Labour Lemming >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Yeah its much higher than that now but well done to Dave for also posting an article that shows a 10 point lead for remaining in the EU (which has also increased since then). I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... 52% a month ago https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-final-say-eu-referendum-peoples-vote-poll-a8857211.html but the important figure is only 24% apposed so there should be no real backlash in approving one but I can see why you dont want one. Take a look at these up to date figures. https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/97637/new-data-local-election-results-reflect-nation-s-frustration-with/ also reported here but you would have just dismissed that. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 Democracy I thought was important to Brexiteers so why are you trying to thwart it? A majority now want another referendum and it seems only a small minority want your kind of Brexit or any Brexit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 3:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... 52% a month ago https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-final-say-eu-referendum-peoples-vote-poll-a8857211.html but the important figure is only 24% apposed so there should be no real backlash in approving one but I can see why you dont want one. Take a look at these up to date figures. https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/97637/new-data-local-election-results-reflect-nation-s-frustration-with/ also reported here but you would have just dismissed that. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 Democracy I thought was important to Brexiteers so why are you trying to thwart it? A majority now want another referendum and it seems only a small minority want your kind of Brexit or any Brexit at all. From you link ;-) .......... •53% of those who confirmed they would vote and currently have a preference wanted to remain in the EU, but: •3 times as many people (34%) confirmed they would vote for a No Deal exit rather than accept the terms negotiated by the Government (12%). 53% is less than what the polls said you'd win by when we had the referendum in 2016 :D ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-03 3:49 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 3:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... 52% a month ago https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-final-say-eu-referendum-peoples-vote-poll-a8857211.html but the important figure is only 24% apposed so there should be no real backlash in approving one but I can see why you dont want one. Take a look at these up to date figures. https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/97637/new-data-local-election-results-reflect-nation-s-frustration-with/ also reported here but you would have just dismissed that. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 Democracy I thought was important to Brexiteers so why are you trying to thwart it? A majority now want another referendum and it seems only a small minority want your kind of Brexit or any Brexit at all. From you link ;-) .......... •53% of those who confirmed they would vote and currently have a preference wanted to remain in the EU, but: •3 times as many people (34%) confirmed they would vote for a No Deal exit rather than accept the terms negotiated by the Government (12%). 53% is less than what the polls said you'd win by when we had the referendum in 2016 :D ............. Thats with three options as it includes no deal as an option which would almost certainly not be on offer. The reality is its Mays deal or remain and based on that remain is miles ahead. Face it Dave. Even if people have not changed their minds there is no majority for either a bonkers no deal or Mays deal. Mays deal is so unpopular both sides hate it but its all there is vs remain. Even if you were allowed the three options its still going to be a walk in the park for remain as the leave vote is split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 5:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 3:49 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 3:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... 52% a month ago https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-final-say-eu-referendum-peoples-vote-poll-a8857211.html but the important figure is only 24% apposed so there should be no real backlash in approving one but I can see why you dont want one. Take a look at these up to date figures. https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/97637/new-data-local-election-results-reflect-nation-s-frustration-with/ also reported here but you would have just dismissed that. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 Democracy I thought was important to Brexiteers so why are you trying to thwart it? A majority now want another referendum and it seems only a small minority want your kind of Brexit or any Brexit at all. From you link ;-) .......... •53% of those who confirmed they would vote and currently have a preference wanted to remain in the EU, but: •3 times as many people (34%) confirmed they would vote for a No Deal exit rather than accept the terms negotiated by the Government (12%). 53% is less than what the polls said you'd win by when we had the referendum in 2016 :D ............. Thats with three options as it includes no deal as an option which would almost certainly not be on offer. The reality is its Mays deal or remain and based on that remain is miles ahead. Face it Dave. Even if people have not changed their minds there is no majority for either a bonkers no deal or Mays deal. Mays deal is so unpopular both sides hate it but its all there is vs remain. Even if you were allowed the three options its still going to be a walk in the park for remain as the leave vote is split. Why a 3 way vote?........We've already voted to leave ;-) ......... So the choice in another vote should be May's deal or No deal :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-03 6:23 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 5:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 3:49 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 3:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... 52% a month ago https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-final-say-eu-referendum-peoples-vote-poll-a8857211.html but the important figure is only 24% apposed so there should be no real backlash in approving one but I can see why you dont want one. Take a look at these up to date figures. https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/97637/new-data-local-election-results-reflect-nation-s-frustration-with/ also reported here but you would have just dismissed that. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 Democracy I thought was important to Brexiteers so why are you trying to thwart it? A majority now want another referendum and it seems only a small minority want your kind of Brexit or any Brexit at all. From you link ;-) .......... •53% of those who confirmed they would vote and currently have a preference wanted to remain in the EU, but: •3 times as many people (34%) confirmed they would vote for a No Deal exit rather than accept the terms negotiated by the Government (12%). 53% is less than what the polls said you'd win by when we had the referendum in 2016 :D ............. Thats with three options as it includes no deal as an option which would almost certainly not be on offer. The reality is its Mays deal or remain and based on that remain is miles ahead. Face it Dave. Even if people have not changed their minds there is no majority for either a bonkers no deal or Mays deal. Mays deal is so unpopular both sides hate it but its all there is vs remain. Even if you were allowed the three options its still going to be a walk in the park for remain as the leave vote is split. Why a 3 way vote?........We've already voted to leave ;-) ......... So the choice in another vote should be May's deal or No deal :D ......... In Dave Pelmet Fantasy land maybe. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-03 6:23 PM Why a 3 way vote?........We've already voted to leave ;-) ......... Only 34% of the electorate voted to leave. So the choice in another vote should be May's deal or Remain in the EU :D ......... Sorted that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 6:53 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 6:23 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 5:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 3:49 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 3:42 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... 52% a month ago https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-final-say-eu-referendum-peoples-vote-poll-a8857211.html but the important figure is only 24% apposed so there should be no real backlash in approving one but I can see why you dont want one. Take a look at these up to date figures. https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/97637/new-data-local-election-results-reflect-nation-s-frustration-with/ also reported here but you would have just dismissed that. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 Democracy I thought was important to Brexiteers so why are you trying to thwart it? A majority now want another referendum and it seems only a small minority want your kind of Brexit or any Brexit at all. From you link ;-) .......... •53% of those who confirmed they would vote and currently have a preference wanted to remain in the EU, but: •3 times as many people (34%) confirmed they would vote for a No Deal exit rather than accept the terms negotiated by the Government (12%). 53% is less than what the polls said you'd win by when we had the referendum in 2016 :D ............. Thats with three options as it includes no deal as an option which would almost certainly not be on offer. The reality is its Mays deal or remain and based on that remain is miles ahead. Face it Dave. Even if people have not changed their minds there is no majority for either a bonkers no deal or Mays deal. Mays deal is so unpopular both sides hate it but its all there is vs remain. Even if you were allowed the three options its still going to be a walk in the park for remain as the leave vote is split. Why a 3 way vote?........We've already voted to leave ;-) ......... So the choice in another vote should be May's deal or No deal :D ......... In Dave Pelmet Fantasy land maybe. *-) "Brexit Party news: Could Nigel Farage’s party OUST Tories in general elections?" https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1122179/brexit-party-news-nigel-farage-conservatives-general-election-european-elections-2019 Maybe its not a fantasy? >:-) .......... 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Fast Pat Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... Here you go https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 61% remain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 10:14 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-03 1:51 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 12:30 PM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 12:05 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-03 11:17 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-03 10:59 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-02 6:07 PM 30% B-) .......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6985245/Nigel-Farages-Brexit-Party-surges-NINE-point-poll-lead-ahead-European-elections.html When and if it gets to over 50% you may be onto something. I doubt there will be anything conclusive from the EU elections as there is no way of telling where all remainers and Brexiteers cast their votes. 75% of labour members want a second referendum but I doubt that means 75% of them will not vote for their own party. There may even be Tory remainers that still vote Tory. Less likely but possible. I never said I was voting for a labour MEP. I would like to keep them as they are good MEP's but whether I will vote for them depends on a lot of factors. The only meaningful way to show support for Brexit or remain is a vote on whatever deal is on the table. All Farage will be doing is spouting the same crap he did in 2016. They dont even have a manifesto. He will give people the same false hope he did back then to gain votes but he will never have to deliver any of it, he never has. The cold reality whatever the outcome of the EU elections is what is currently on the table festering away in Westminster. That is what needs voting on not Farage and his Unicorns. If I were you I'd be more concerned that the Change UK vote is reducing (lol) .......... Why would I care? None of it is going to tell us much at all unless there is a landslide victory for one particular pro or anti EU party or group of parties. There is if you believe the polls a majority that now favour remaining in the EU. Recent polls show 58% in favour but all of them have constantly polled above 50% for yonks now in favour of remain and they cant all be wrong. The only way to properly find out is a second referendum based on the choices we now have not Farages La La Land dreamworld Brexit vs way too many pro EU parties. I could start a party tomorrow that offers free sex, Leffe and cheese for all and people would vote for it probably but I wouldnt win and would never have to deliver the free sex, Leffe and cheese so I can promise what I like. What would make total sense right now would be to have a vote on what we can actually offer. Choices that are real and those choices are Mays deal or Remaining in the EU. Dead easy. Legally binding and deliverable immediately. End of. Done, Dusted, in the bag! Seeing as you like polls :D .......... "Exactly the same proportion of voters believe there should be a second referendum on Brexit as think the UK should leave the EU without a deal, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/16/britain-split-over-prospect-of-second-brexit-referendum You're quoting a two month old article, do try to keep up. Perhaps you have a more up to date poll? ;-) ............Because I cant find one :-S ......... Here you go https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/new-poll-finds-majority-back-remain-1-6031751 61% remain Actually the question was ;-) ......... "We asked Brits through our YouGov survey how they would vote if given the choice now of remaining in the EU or leaving on the terms set out in Theresa May’s deal. Of the people who confirmed they would vote, and currently have a preference, 61% stated they wanted the UK to remain in the EU." https://www.kisbridgingloans.co.uk/finance-news/no-deal-more-popular-than-mays-deal-and-uk-wants-to-remain-in-the-eu/ Which indicates to me that they dislike May's deal more than actually wanting to stay in the EU :D ....... BTW......Where's that poll showing a majority want another referendum? :-S .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I posted it earlier numbnuts. If you cant be arsed to read my links then thats your problem. You should see some of the actual Brexometers for a second ref that actually go out to our high streets in towns and cities all over the UK every week. Ive not seen one yet that does not support a second ref. Basically you stick a coloured sticker on a board as to whether you want a second ref or not. Even places like Sunderland have had more in favour than against. EDIT: Here you go. This was one done in Middlesbrough recently. https://i.postimg.cc/L5x7qnWv/brexit-vs-remain-local-elections.png Middlesbrough had a 65.5% Leave vote percentage in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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