BoJo threatens to renege on legal obligations

[Bulletguy]

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

[Barryd999]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

[jumpstart]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Americans have a history of supporting Terrorists . IRA,Contra’s,Israeli’s.and more.

Quite what the PM is hoping to achieve out of this is beyond me. I don’t this most of the Conservatives will support it.

[jumpstart]

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

[Barryd999]

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

 

In 2016 David Davis (remember him?) said the following. "Within minutes of a vote for Brexit the chief executives of Mercedes, BMW, VW and Audi will be knocking down Chancellor Merkel's door demanding that there be no barriers to German access to the British market."

 

We are still waiting four and a half years later for that to happen not four and a half minutes.

 

Brexiteers will say that the UK has a deficit in trade of goods with the EU which is true on paper but Germanys goods export percentage to the UK is just 6.6% which is actually above average for the EU 27 countries. Nearly half of our goods however are exported to Europe! See the problem?

 

So whilst it will be damaging for some European companies it will be curtains for us. So we had better hope that both Johnson and the EU are bluffing. You also have to remember that the Europeans and the EU value the single market very much and the EU will not stand for having it breached by any third country and certainly not one with Boris Johnson in charge.

[Bulletguy]

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

She's right, though I doubt the obvious ever crossed clown Johnsons mind. As for us making demands on the EU and changing parts of the WA, we're in no position to but is typical of our behaviour throughout our time as a member. Bregret is already happening. Johnson and his disaster capitalist cronies are creaming off their loot ready to jump ship leaving their cult nutters behind to carry on blaming the EU! *-)

[Bulletguy]

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

[Guest pelmetman]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

Blimey 8-) .......

 

Only had to get 3 lines in before I knew it was the view of a EU Bum licker *-) ........

[jumpstart]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

[Barryd999]

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

[Guest pelmetman]

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

So suddenly Flip Flop Barry decides he wants to eat chlorinated chicken? 8-) .........

 

[jumpstart]

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...

It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all.

Even decisions on COVID are unlikely to be adhered by anyone any more. One of their own MP’s says changing the law every 2 minutes has to stop.

The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

What happens in the next few weeks is anyone’s guess.

 

[Guest pelmetman]

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:54 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...

It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all.

Even decisions on COVID are unlikely to be adhered by anyone any more. One of their own MP’s says changing the law every 2 minutes has to stop.

The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

What happens in the next few weeks is anyone’s guess.

 

Welcome to the real world :D ........

 

Visionary leaders only appear long after they're dead in my experience ;-) ......

[Bulletguy]

pelmetman - 2020-09-11 4:50 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

Blimey 8-) .......

 

Only had to get 3 lines in before I knew it was the view of a EU Bum licker *-) ........

You stick to Twitter and cartoons.......that article is for adults and way too difficult for you to comprehend.

[Bulletguy]

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

China is Germanys biggest customer for high end cars, we come low down the list as Brits don't earn enough to buy them, plus China has FTA with the EU. You really ought to read that report as it will give you a lot to think about.

[Guest pelmetman]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 6:20 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

China is Germanys biggest customer for high end cars, we come low down the list as Brits don't earn enough to buy them, plus China has FTA with the EU. You really ought to read that report as it will give you a lot to think about.

 

"Brits don't earn enough to buy them"

 

Eh? :-S ........

 

Why are the feckers always parked down my road? 8-) ........

 

There's even one with a Remain sticker in the back window (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

[Barryd999]

pelmetman - 2020-09-11 5:35 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

So suddenly Flip Flop Barry decides he wants to eat chlorinated chicken? 8-) .........

 

 

Nope. It was you Brexiteers that were putting all your hopes on a US trade deal. Im simply pointing out that if Johnson breaks his own Oven Ready Brexit deal you can kiss goodbye to any of that.

[Guest pelmetman]

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 6:31 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-09-11 5:35 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

So suddenly Flip Flop Barry decides he wants to eat chlorinated chicken? 8-) .........

 

 

Nope. It was you Brexiteers that were putting all your hopes on a US trade deal. Im simply pointing out that if Johnson breaks his own Oven Ready Brexit deal you can kiss goodbye to any of that.

 

Nope.......I was always happy with WTO rules ;-) .......

 

Best start with a clean slate has always been my view B-) .......

 

 

[Bulletguy]

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:54 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all. The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

Brexit took us into the mess.....not out of it, and i don't know how you conclude the EU being "an expensive mess" when Brexit has cost the British tax payer more than what we paid out during the past 47 years as a member!! And we wonder why we are the laughing stock of the world? People had plenty of warnings about Johnson but they ignored them in preference to hearing about sunlit uplands and his oven ready deal etc.

[jumpstart]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 6:20 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

China is Germanys biggest customer for high end cars, we come low down the list as Brits don't earn enough to buy them, plus China has FTA with the EU. You really ought to read that report as it will give you a lot to think about.

 

I did read it,I’m no wiser.

[Guest pelmetman]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 6:35 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:54 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all. The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

Brexit took us into the mess.....not out of it, and i don't know how you conclude the EU being "an expensive mess" when Brexit has cost the British tax payer more than what we paid out during the past 47 years as a member!! And we wonder why we are the laughing stock of the world? People had plenty of warnings about Johnson but they ignored them in preference to hearing about sunlit uplands and his oven ready deal etc.

 

What mess? :-S ......

 

I see no mess ;-) ......

 

Maybe you need to change your Tennerman? :D ........

[Bulletguy]

pelmetman - 2020-09-11 6:40 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 6:35 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:54 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all. The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

Brexit took us into the mess.....not out of it, and i don't know how you conclude the EU being "an expensive mess" when Brexit has cost the British tax payer more than what we paid out during the past 47 years as a member!! And we wonder why we are the laughing stock of the world? People had plenty of warnings about Johnson but they ignored them in preference to hearing about sunlit uplands and his oven ready deal etc.

 

What mess? :-S ......

 

I see no mess ;-) ......

Of course you don't.......you drank the Kool-Aid long ago.

[jumpstart]

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 6:35 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:54 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all. The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

Brexit took us into the mess.....not out of it, and i don't know how you conclude the EU being "an expensive mess" when Brexit has cost the British tax payer more than what we paid out during the past 47 years as a member!! And we wonder why we are the laughing stock of the world? People had plenty of warnings about Johnson but they ignored them in preference to hearing about sunlit uplands and his oven ready deal etc.

 

I’m not really interested in the cost as it’s where we end up in the long run. I have no interest in trying to change your view of the Eu,but there are plenty even within Europe who don’t see it as a rosy picture. I’m not a supporter of Johnson perhaps you should have voted for Corbyn and then we wouldn’t be in this mess.

 

[Guest pelmetman]

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 6:49 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 6:35 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:54 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 5:30 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 5:07 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 3:37 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-11 2:55 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-09-11 2:37 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2020-09-11 2:07 PM

 

jumpstart - 2020-09-10 6:15 PM

 

John52 - 2020-09-09 10:50 PM

 

This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all. The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

Brexit took us into the mess.....not out of it, and i don't know how you conclude the EU being "an expensive mess" when Brexit has cost the British tax payer more than what we paid out during the past 47 years as a member!! And we wonder why we are the laughing stock of the world? People had plenty of warnings about Johnson but they ignored them in preference to hearing about sunlit uplands and his oven ready deal etc.

 

I’m not really interested in the cost as it’s where we end up in the long run. I have no interest in trying to change your view of the Eu,but there are plenty even within Europe who don’t see it as a rosy picture. I’m not a supporter of Johnson perhaps you should have voted for Corbyn and then we wouldn’t be in this mess.

 

"perhaps you should have voted for Corbyn"

 

You mean he didn't?????????????????????

8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-).......

 

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This link explains why BoJo's Brexit bill is an ''eye-watering' breach of international law'

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if (BoJo) presses ahead with the move.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/09/brexit-bill-northern-ireland-criticised-as-obvious-breach-of-international-law

 

These are the international agreements Trump has pulled out off.

 

Intermediate range nuclear forces treaty.

Paris Climate change agreement.

Trans Pacific Partnership.

South Korea trade deal.

NAFTA

UNESCO.

UN Human rights council

Iran nuclear deal.

All the more reason Britain needs to forget US as a trading partner, at least as long as that clown is President though the way Johnsons lot is behaving over Ireland, US won't deal with us anyway. Worth remembering Trump is an IRA fanboy and there are a lot of Irish-Americans.

 

Pelosi has stated that there is no chance of a trade deal with the USA if the UK breaks its agreement over Northern Ireland

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

Now the EU are threatening the nuclear option as well which pretty much means banning our exports into Europe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brussels-threatens-to-ban-food-imports-in-no-deal-brexit-w5p59nzhq?fbclid=IwAR0WGFtwR4Ho0oOQVjbPvQ04xk_JThMfEk7bIIGqrwUV-UQamkvN_XfQgFg

 

I guess some Brexiteers will say its all bluff and bluster and the EU will do no such thing but who has the most to lose and who will be hit the hardest? So far they have been wrong and the EU has not caved in at all like they said they would. What was the phrase? Oh yeah, "They need us more than we need them". Something about holding all the cards I seem to remember. Well the Joker perhaps. (Johnson)

 

The EU May no5 be bothered about having a deal but the individual countries are.. Germany’s BMW’s and Merc’s will be 20% more, fish stock will increase because they won’t be allowed to fish on our waters,the list goes on. The Eu don’t ask other nations in trade deals to use their sovereign waters,or be tied to Eu limits of government subsidies to industry. It may not be doing us any good but it certainly won’t be doing them any good either. Mutual assured destruction.

J/start.......an indepth detailed report.......recommended reading.

 

The German car industry and Brexit

 

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-german-car-industry-and-brexit.html

 

That is another personal view but did not talk about the point that I made concerning selling price of cars imported. There are quite a few articles on line from German car makers specifically detailing how bad for them a no deal would be.

 

Yes it will be but not anywhere near the level of "bad" it will be for us. The EU will not sacrifice the stability and security of the single market, its as simple as that. This was the gamble the Brexiteers took and it looks right now that its a gamble that wont pay off. Its not the EU being difficult or punishing us. They have to protect their single market for all its members. Germany will survive as will all the other countries within the EU. The UK however faces a very bleak future the way things look at the moment. Just "believing" in Britain and Brexit doesnt cut the mustard anymore. The time has come to deliver and Johnson to put it as politely as possible is fcuked as is the countries economy if he is allowed to carry on in the reckless way he is currently.

 

I wish we could all get out of this competition of ..who it is worst for...It’s bad all round, the uk Government is making a horses arse of it all. The Eu is an expensive mess. It would be good if we had a competent visionary leader..but we don’t. We have a witches brew of poison dwarfs(sorry)

Brexit took us into the mess.....not out of it, and i don't know how you conclude the EU being "an expensive mess" when Brexit has cost the British tax payer more than what we paid out during the past 47 years as a member!! And we wonder why we are the laughing stock of the world? People had plenty of warnings about Johnson but they ignored them in preference to hearing about sunlit uplands and his oven ready deal etc.

 

I’m not really interested in the cost as it’s where we end up in the long run. I have no interest in trying to change your view of the Eu,but there are plenty even within Europe who don’t see it as a rosy picture. I’m not a supporter of Johnson perhaps you should have voted for Corbyn and then we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Nothing is perfect but it made more sense to remain a member with a seat at the table and there to vote on any changes, that's what our MEP's were there for but all Farage ever did was sow disruption. I don't vote for a person, more for the party views/policies. Brexit fanatics wanted Johnson and now they've got him they're blaming the mess on anyone and everything else they can find or think of....they cannot and will not accept responsibility for their insane actions.