onecal Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Hi Nothing as good as a good serviceable spare wheel every time. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 If I got a puncture on one of England's Wonderful 'Smart Motorways' I daren't stop to change it I'd keep going till I got somewhere safe. By which time I'd need a new rim as well as a tyre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 On 24/08/2023 at 15:14, Brian Kirby said: ...Our present car came as standard with a space saver spare, which I had changed for a full sized spare; our next will be delivered with a full sized spare in lieu of a "repair kit". It would be interesting to know the make/model of car you are getting. This Honest John article includes a 'spare wheels' table. https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/wheels-and-tyres/which-cars-get-a-spare-wheel-as-standard/ I suspect the data are fairly old and that the situation has worsened since the article was written. It's definitely the case that UK-specification current-model Hyundai i20 cars just have a 'sealant type' repair kit. My 2021 i20 SE Connect 'mild hybrid' (MHEV) has as standard no spare wheel and no tool kit or jack. There is a spare wheel 'well' beneath the boot floor, but the i20 MHEV's well houses a 48V lithium battery and - to add insult to injury - the depth of the boot is insufficient to carry even a space-saver wheel flat on the boot floor. I do carry a full size spare wheel, but it has to live in a bag upright behind the passenger seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Derek Uzzell said: It would be interesting to know the make/model of car you are getting. This Honest John article includes a 'spare wheels' table. https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/wheels-and-tyres/which-cars-get-a-spare-wheel-as-standard/ I suspect the data are fairly old and that the situation has worsened since the article was written. It's definitely the case that UK-specification current-model Hyundai i20 cars just have a 'sealant type' repair kit. My 2021 i20 SE Connect 'mild hybrid' (MHEV) has as standard no spare wheel and no tool kit or jack. There is a spare wheel 'well' beneath the boot floor, but the i20 MHEV's well houses a 48V lithium battery and - to add insult to injury - the depth of the boot is insufficient to carry even a space-saver wheel flat on the boot floor. I do carry a full size spare wheel, but it has to live in a bag upright behind the passenger seat. Skoda Fabia SE Comfort 1.0 TSI 95PS Derek. Standard spec is "repair kit" but (cost) option to specify spare wheel in lieu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIGGER Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 100% spare wheel any time, I had a rear tyre blow out on the way home from Portugal recently , nearly lost control of the van as doing 60 mph on a Motorway, long story short got to a tyre bay and lucky for me my van ,Chausson carries a spare wheel, the blown tyre damaged my inner wheel arch too and as I had to drive on the Wheel rim about 800 metres to a tyre bay escorted by Police vehicles the wheel rim was destroyed , but thanks to my spare, the wheel was change quickly , the tyre bay dumped my damaged wheel and tyre fitted my spare and would not take a penny off me , so any type of repair kit was a no no for me , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecal Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Hi Wow you were lucky ,yes nothing like a good serviceable spare wheel every time Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 @TRIGGER Any idea how old that tyre was? Or what is the date marking on your other tyres, assuming them to be of a similar age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Emar Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 No the replating did not include any alterations to the rear axle loads but as said earlier it is 2 tonne as standard and when I checked it on a weighbridge it was still well under that and at that time I was also carrying a big box on the rear bike rack with chairs and table and odds and ends, all that travels in the toad now so even less weight on the axle. The locker relieved of the wheel already had the wardrobe above and to the inside of it but the other space now carries the awning, windbreak and thanks to Ikea a set of 4 draws with all sorts of bits and pieces. As I said my solution is not the cheapest but if a tow bar is already fitted the BakRak is maybe a way to go. Wasnt looking for an argument just offering an idea that might suit someone with enough sense to sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIGGER Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 TYRE was 4 years old passed the MOT last September all ok the MOT man said, I think I went over some debris in the Road , now have 3 new tyres, two on the rear wheels and one on the new spare wheel that I obtained and had a new tyre fitted on that, My front tyres are about a year old now, had the rear wheels both checked out at my local garage on our return home all ok and the van passed its MOT again last Wednesday so am confident all well again, Very scary happening the burst tyre , too dangerous a place to get a breakdown to me at the point of blow out said the Police that is why I had to drive OH so SLOOOOOWWWLY to the slip road off the Motorway , someone up there was watching over us that day and to find a Tyre Bay at the pull off of the Motorway was unbelievable and the fact that the Spanish cop involved spoke perfect English was un believable too , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecal Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Hi A lot of reports from Club members regarding tyre damage to theirs on Spain's motorways due to debris from building and construction trucks etc'. Next highest on the list was parts from other vehicles So your not on your own Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Thing is it doesn't only happen abroad, my first blow out was in the UK on the M2 heading to Dover! Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 26/08/2023 at 16:44, Ben Emar said: No the replating did not include any alterations to the rear axle loads but as said earlier it is 2 tonne as standard and when I checked it on a weighbridge it was still well under that and at that time I was also carrying a big box on the rear bike rack with chairs and table and odds and ends, all that travels in the toad now so even less weight on the axle. The locker relieved of the wheel already had the wardrobe above and to the inside of it but the other space now carries the awning, windbreak and thanks to Ikea a set of 4 draws with all sorts of bits and pieces. As I said my solution is not the cheapest but if a tow bar is already fitted the BakRak is maybe a way to go. Wasnt looking for an argument just offering an idea that might suit someone with enough sense to sort it out. No argument sought. 😄 You didn't give much detail of your van, or the reason for the up-plating, and many more read posts that actually post. My point was that it is not always clear that up-plating does not, automatically, imply increasing axle loads and, as many (if not most) vans tend to run out of payload as well as (unbeknown to their owners) rear axle load, it is worth pointing out, for the benefit of those who have not yet realised each axle has its individual load limit, that the benefits of up-plating may not be realised as they expect unless that also check the rear axle load as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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