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userCurtainRaiser
Posted: 1 January 2022 11:41 PM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 
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Telegraph seem to disagree with you Pelmethead

"The larger ones, known as Little Nightingales or "Boris wards", are where improving but not fully recovered patients will be kept should hospitals start to overflow. The smaller ones are made by Nutwell Logistics and other purveyors of "soft-shell body storage solutions"."

I remember when "soft-shell body storage solutions" were called a morgue.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/frightening-new-covid-data-shows-boris-johnsons-omicron-gamble/
userpelmetman
Posted: 2 January 2022 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 


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pelmetman - 2021-12-30 6:08 PM .............................
1.....Back then the Pandemic had just appeared and Boris had been in the job for months......What's Germany and France's excuse now? .........
2......I Refer you to my thread titled "15" its quite easy to find if you use the search facility .......
3......Germany & France have had the best part of 2 years to prepare for the Delta variant and the Omicron......they haven't......so they have F*cked UP ........
4.......You're easily confused as is eveident by you thinking deaths rates per 1million on "worldometer" refer to "That day" ........

1 "What's Germany and France's excuse now?" Excuse for what? Having lower total death rates per 1,000,000 population than UK? Do they need an excuse for that?

2 I can't find any thread by entering either 15, or "15" as search terms. Does it actually exist on this forum? Not one you got deleted, was it?

3 Untrue. Delta was first identified on 31 May 2021, seven months ago, and Omicron on 26 November 2021.just 5 weeks ago. Hardly two years to prepare, is it? Overclaiming again! You're a real chip off the old Boris block, aren't you!

4 They do. There are three settings. "Now", "Yesterday", and "Two days ago". Given those options, "Now" seems to me to suggest today's figures. So 31/12/21 becomes "that day". What's wrong with that?


1........They "currently" have a death rate lower than the UK, it wont be long with deaths in the 100's everyday until they catch us up..........So what's their excuse for squandering their earlier advantage? ........

2........https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/15-/58102/ ...........

3........Well you LOSERS seem to think Boris should have prepared for the pandemic that no one knew was coming, within just a few weeks of becoming PM..........Hypocrites .........

4.........If you read my 15 thread you will see that we were overtaken months ago by many EU countries........The only question is which EU country will overtake us next ...........Because its pretty bleedin obvious the EU's penny pinching and Merkels & Macron the Moron bad mouthing of AZ has cost lives ............But no doubt you LOSERS will ignore their F*ck Ups? ...........

Worra a bunch of Pathetic LOSERS ..........



Just wondered how you were getting on adding to that list of covid deaths by Island Nations Dave? Remember I started it for you?

There must be some that are worse than us surely seeing as Johnson has done such a good job here of protecting a nation surrounded by sea.

Covid deaths per million for Island nations.

UK 2184 (170000+ deaths in total)
Indonesia 531
Philippines 465
Japan 145
Iceland 110 (only 36 deaths in total)
Australia 83
Madagascar 36
New Zealand 9 (only 51 deaths in total)


Didn't your school master Dad teach you that the UK is made up of "3" countries? .........

Although the Cornish would say its 4 ..........


No because there are four countries in the UK!

So what? We are still a small island surrounded by water. That should have given us an advantage over mainland Europe. Clearly other island nations have by a country mile kept infections and deaths at bay better than Johnson has yet you carry on defending the indefensible. He lost the battle way back in early 2020 by playing it down and refusing to listen to the advice being screamed at him from around the world and from our own scientists. As if that wasnt bad enough, time and time again throughout the pandemic he did the same yet still you defend the indefensible. Whats worse is not only do you defend this moron you actively try and wag the finger at the EU and Europe? Is there something wrong with you?


Oh yeah I forgot NI..........so that's your UK is a Island country shot down in flames .........

I can only assume there is deffo summat wrong with you..... seeing as you're so annoyed that the UK is no longer suffering the worst from COVID ...........

Worra Sado Chimp ........


Ah so you acknowledge then that our Island nation has suffered the worst from Covid on more than one occasion. Thats progress I guess. Actually last time I looked we were still recording some of the highest infection rates in Europe and the Highest not that long ago. Island nations can be made up of more than one island you clot. Indonesia has 17000 of them. Its also heavily populated with 273 million inhabitants. Point is island nations should be able to protect themselves better and clearly with the exception of the UK with its tinpot poundland Churchill leader they have been able to.


Hmmm ............

Indonesia's Covid-19 Death Toll More Than Double the Official Data: IHME Analysis
BY :JAKARTA GLOBE

MAY 07, 2021

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesias-covid19-death-toll-more-than-double-the-official-data-ihme-analysis


Even if that were true and it was just Indonesia it would still be half the death rate of the UK. Indonesia is also the fourth most populous country in the world and a lower middle income status country where whilst its done pretty well since the 90s, 25 million people still live in poverty and deprived conditions. Yet still in the list of island nations they have far outperformed the UK, a G7 country under Johnson throughout the pandemic. How shameful is that?


So you are saying its not true? .......

Why is that?...........

1........Is it that the graph also shows that Japan under reporting of death rates is even higher than indonesia, which also pisses all over your island country theory?

2........Perhaps it's because it shows that the UK's death rate has exactly mirrored Italy?

3........But we know the trut....... It dosen't fit you hate filled Boris/Brexit bashing agenda? ........

Keep on hating & hoping Barry Bullsh1t ........

Edited by pelmetman 2022-01-02 10:20 AM
userCurtainRaiser
Posted: 2 January 2022 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 
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pelmetman - 2021-12-30 6:08 PM .............................
1.....Back then the Pandemic had just appeared and Boris had been in the job for months......What's Germany and France's excuse now? .........
2......I Refer you to my thread titled "15" its quite easy to find if you use the search facility .......
3......Germany & France have had the best part of 2 years to prepare for the Delta variant and the Omicron......they haven't......so they have F*cked UP ........
4.......You're easily confused as is eveident by you thinking deaths rates per 1million on "worldometer" refer to "That day" ........

1 "What's Germany and France's excuse now?" Excuse for what? Having lower total death rates per 1,000,000 population than UK? Do they need an excuse for that?

2 I can't find any thread by entering either 15, or "15" as search terms. Does it actually exist on this forum? Not one you got deleted, was it?

3 Untrue. Delta was first identified on 31 May 2021, seven months ago, and Omicron on 26 November 2021.just 5 weeks ago. Hardly two years to prepare, is it? Overclaiming again! You're a real chip off the old Boris block, aren't you!

4 They do. There are three settings. "Now", "Yesterday", and "Two days ago". Given those options, "Now" seems to me to suggest today's figures. So 31/12/21 becomes "that day". What's wrong with that?


1........They "currently" have a death rate lower than the UK, it wont be long with deaths in the 100's everyday until they catch us up..........So what's their excuse for squandering their earlier advantage? ........

2........https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/15-/58102/ ...........

3........Well you LOSERS seem to think Boris should have prepared for the pandemic that no one knew was coming, within just a few weeks of becoming PM..........Hypocrites .........

4.........If you read my 15 thread you will see that we were overtaken months ago by many EU countries........The only question is which EU country will overtake us next ...........Because its pretty bleedin obvious the EU's penny pinching and Merkels & Macron the Moron bad mouthing of AZ has cost lives ............But no doubt you LOSERS will ignore their F*ck Ups? ...........

Worra a bunch of Pathetic LOSERS ..........



Just wondered how you were getting on adding to that list of covid deaths by Island Nations Dave? Remember I started it for you?

There must be some that are worse than us surely seeing as Johnson has done such a good job here of protecting a nation surrounded by sea.

Covid deaths per million for Island nations.

UK 2184 (170000+ deaths in total)
Indonesia 531
Philippines 465
Japan 145
Iceland 110 (only 36 deaths in total)
Australia 83
Madagascar 36
New Zealand 9 (only 51 deaths in total)


Didn't your school master Dad teach you that the UK is made up of "3" countries? .........

Although the Cornish would say its 4 ..........


No because there are four countries in the UK!

So what? We are still a small island surrounded by water. That should have given us an advantage over mainland Europe. Clearly other island nations have by a country mile kept infections and deaths at bay better than Johnson has yet you carry on defending the indefensible. He lost the battle way back in early 2020 by playing it down and refusing to listen to the advice being screamed at him from around the world and from our own scientists. As if that wasnt bad enough, time and time again throughout the pandemic he did the same yet still you defend the indefensible. Whats worse is not only do you defend this moron you actively try and wag the finger at the EU and Europe? Is there something wrong with you?


Oh yeah I forgot NI..........so that's your UK is a Island country shot down in flames .........

I can only assume there is deffo summat wrong with you..... seeing as you're so annoyed that the UK is no longer suffering the worst from COVID ...........

Worra Sado Chimp ........


Ah so you acknowledge then that our Island nation has suffered the worst from Covid on more than one occasion. Thats progress I guess. Actually last time I looked we were still recording some of the highest infection rates in Europe and the Highest not that long ago. Island nations can be made up of more than one island you clot. Indonesia has 17000 of them. Its also heavily populated with 273 million inhabitants. Point is island nations should be able to protect themselves better and clearly with the exception of the UK with its tinpot poundland Churchill leader they have been able to.


Hmmm ............

Indonesia's Covid-19 Death Toll More Than Double the Official Data: IHME Analysis
BY :JAKARTA GLOBE

MAY 07, 2021

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesias-covid19-death-toll-more-than-double-the-official-data-ihme-analysis


Even if that were true and it was just Indonesia it would still be half the death rate of the UK. Indonesia is also the fourth most populous country in the world and a lower middle income status country where whilst its done pretty well since the 90s, 25 million people still live in poverty and deprived conditions. Yet still in the list of island nations they have far outperformed the UK, a G7 country under Johnson throughout the pandemic. How shameful is that?


So you are saying its not true? .......

Why is that?...........

1........Is it that the graph also shows that Japan death rate is higher than indonesia, which also pisses all over your island theroy?

2........Perhaps it's because it shows that the UK's death rate has exactly mirrored Italy?

3........But we know the truth is....... it dosen't fit you hate filled Boris/Brexit bashing agenda? ........

Keep on hating & hoping Barry Bullsh1t ........


Have you read the Torygraph lately?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/frightening-new-covid-data-shows-boris-johnsons-omicron-gamble/

Or the Express

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1543355/brexit-boris-johnson-2022-brexit-deal-northern-ireland-protocol-Liz-Truss-EU-news

Your boy is taking a hell of a kicking

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1543631/boris-johnson-news-red-wall-keir-starmer-labour-keir-starmer-tories

All this and you still haven't got your windows!
userpelmetman
Posted: 2 January 2022 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 


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pelmetman - 2021-12-30 6:08 PM .............................
1.....Back then the Pandemic had just appeared and Boris had been in the job for months......What's Germany and France's excuse now? .........
2......I Refer you to my thread titled "15" its quite easy to find if you use the search facility .......
3......Germany & France have had the best part of 2 years to prepare for the Delta variant and the Omicron......they haven't......so they have F*cked UP ........
4.......You're easily confused as is eveident by you thinking deaths rates per 1million on "worldometer" refer to "That day" ........

1 "What's Germany and France's excuse now?" Excuse for what? Having lower total death rates per 1,000,000 population than UK? Do they need an excuse for that?

2 I can't find any thread by entering either 15, or "15" as search terms. Does it actually exist on this forum? Not one you got deleted, was it?

3 Untrue. Delta was first identified on 31 May 2021, seven months ago, and Omicron on 26 November 2021.just 5 weeks ago. Hardly two years to prepare, is it? Overclaiming again! You're a real chip off the old Boris block, aren't you!

4 They do. There are three settings. "Now", "Yesterday", and "Two days ago". Given those options, "Now" seems to me to suggest today's figures. So 31/12/21 becomes "that day". What's wrong with that?


1........They "currently" have a death rate lower than the UK, it wont be long with deaths in the 100's everyday until they catch us up..........So what's their excuse for squandering their earlier advantage? ........

2........https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/15-/58102/ ...........

3........Well you LOSERS seem to think Boris should have prepared for the pandemic that no one knew was coming, within just a few weeks of becoming PM..........Hypocrites .........

4.........If you read my 15 thread you will see that we were overtaken months ago by many EU countries........The only question is which EU country will overtake us next ...........Because its pretty bleedin obvious the EU's penny pinching and Merkels & Macron the Moron bad mouthing of AZ has cost lives ............But no doubt you LOSERS will ignore their F*ck Ups? ...........

Worra a bunch of Pathetic LOSERS ..........



Just wondered how you were getting on adding to that list of covid deaths by Island Nations Dave? Remember I started it for you?

There must be some that are worse than us surely seeing as Johnson has done such a good job here of protecting a nation surrounded by sea.

Covid deaths per million for Island nations.

UK 2184 (170000+ deaths in total)
Indonesia 531
Philippines 465
Japan 145
Iceland 110 (only 36 deaths in total)
Australia 83
Madagascar 36
New Zealand 9 (only 51 deaths in total)


Didn't your school master Dad teach you that the UK is made up of "3" countries? .........

Although the Cornish would say its 4 ..........


No because there are four countries in the UK!

So what? We are still a small island surrounded by water. That should have given us an advantage over mainland Europe. Clearly other island nations have by a country mile kept infections and deaths at bay better than Johnson has yet you carry on defending the indefensible. He lost the battle way back in early 2020 by playing it down and refusing to listen to the advice being screamed at him from around the world and from our own scientists. As if that wasnt bad enough, time and time again throughout the pandemic he did the same yet still you defend the indefensible. Whats worse is not only do you defend this moron you actively try and wag the finger at the EU and Europe? Is there something wrong with you?


Oh yeah I forgot NI..........so that's your UK is a Island country shot down in flames .........

I can only assume there is deffo summat wrong with you..... seeing as you're so annoyed that the UK is no longer suffering the worst from COVID ...........

Worra Sado Chimp ........


Ah so you acknowledge then that our Island nation has suffered the worst from Covid on more than one occasion. Thats progress I guess. Actually last time I looked we were still recording some of the highest infection rates in Europe and the Highest not that long ago. Island nations can be made up of more than one island you clot. Indonesia has 17000 of them. Its also heavily populated with 273 million inhabitants. Point is island nations should be able to protect themselves better and clearly with the exception of the UK with its tinpot poundland Churchill leader they have been able to.


Hmmm ............

Indonesia's Covid-19 Death Toll More Than Double the Official Data: IHME Analysis
BY :JAKARTA GLOBE

MAY 07, 2021

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesias-covid19-death-toll-more-than-double-the-official-data-ihme-analysis


Even if that were true and it was just Indonesia it would still be half the death rate of the UK. Indonesia is also the fourth most populous country in the world and a lower middle income status country where whilst its done pretty well since the 90s, 25 million people still live in poverty and deprived conditions. Yet still in the list of island nations they have far outperformed the UK, a G7 country under Johnson throughout the pandemic. How shameful is that?


So you are saying its not true? .......

Why is that?...........

1........Is it that the graph also shows that Japan death rate is higher than indonesia, which also pisses all over your island theroy?

2........Perhaps it's because it shows that the UK's death rate has exactly mirrored Italy?

3........But we know the truth is....... it dosen't fit you hate filled Boris/Brexit bashing agenda? ........

Keep on hating & hoping Barry Bullsh1t ........


Have you read the Torygraph lately?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/frightening-new-covid-data-shows-boris-johnsons-omicron-gamble/

Or the Express

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1543355/brexit-boris-johnson-2022-brexit-deal-northern-ireland-protocol-Liz-Truss-EU-news

Your boy is taking a hell of a kicking

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1543631/boris-johnson-news-red-wall-keir-starmer-labour-keir-starmer-tories

All this and you still haven't got your windows!


"Frightening new Covid data shows Boris Johnson’s omicron gamble may be about to implode"

So just another expert pessimist hoping and hating ..........

"POST-BREXIT trade rules with the EU which came into force today may leave UK businesses not bothering to import goods, a former top civil servant has claimed."

So just another bitching civil servant LOSER .......

"BORIS JOHNSON's lead over Labour in the Red Wall has all but evaporated after a new poll puts the Conservative 16 points behind Sir Keir Starmer's party."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

So that's really just 5 points to make up over the next 120+ weeks ..........

I seem to recall even your hero Corbyn was polling those kinda numbers when he LOST .........

Keep on Hating & Hoping & LOSING .........
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Posted: 2 January 2022 10:49 AM
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pelmetman - 2021-12-30 6:08 PM .............................
1.....Back then the Pandemic had just appeared and Boris had been in the job for months......What's Germany and France's excuse now? .........
2......I Refer you to my thread titled "15" its quite easy to find if you use the search facility .......
3......Germany & France have had the best part of 2 years to prepare for the Delta variant and the Omicron......they haven't......so they have F*cked UP ........
4.......You're easily confused as is eveident by you thinking deaths rates per 1million on "worldometer" refer to "That day" ........

1 "What's Germany and France's excuse now?" Excuse for what? Having lower total death rates per 1,000,000 population than UK? Do they need an excuse for that?

2 I can't find any thread by entering either 15, or "15" as search terms. Does it actually exist on this forum? Not one you got deleted, was it?

3 Untrue. Delta was first identified on 31 May 2021, seven months ago, and Omicron on 26 November 2021.just 5 weeks ago. Hardly two years to prepare, is it? Overclaiming again! You're a real chip off the old Boris block, aren't you!

4 They do. There are three settings. "Now", "Yesterday", and "Two days ago". Given those options, "Now" seems to me to suggest today's figures. So 31/12/21 becomes "that day". What's wrong with that?


1........They "currently" have a death rate lower than the UK, it wont be long with deaths in the 100's everyday until they catch us up..........So what's their excuse for squandering their earlier advantage? ........

2........https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/15-/58102/ ...........

3........Well you LOSERS seem to think Boris should have prepared for the pandemic that no one knew was coming, within just a few weeks of becoming PM..........Hypocrites .........

4.........If you read my 15 thread you will see that we were overtaken months ago by many EU countries........The only question is which EU country will overtake us next ...........Because its pretty bleedin obvious the EU's penny pinching and Merkels & Macron the Moron bad mouthing of AZ has cost lives ............But no doubt you LOSERS will ignore their F*ck Ups? ...........

Worra a bunch of Pathetic LOSERS ..........



Just wondered how you were getting on adding to that list of covid deaths by Island Nations Dave? Remember I started it for you?

There must be some that are worse than us surely seeing as Johnson has done such a good job here of protecting a nation surrounded by sea.

Covid deaths per million for Island nations.

UK 2184 (170000+ deaths in total)
Indonesia 531
Philippines 465
Japan 145
Iceland 110 (only 36 deaths in total)
Australia 83
Madagascar 36
New Zealand 9 (only 51 deaths in total)


Didn't your school master Dad teach you that the UK is made up of "3" countries? .........

Although the Cornish would say its 4 ..........


No because there are four countries in the UK!

So what? We are still a small island surrounded by water. That should have given us an advantage over mainland Europe. Clearly other island nations have by a country mile kept infections and deaths at bay better than Johnson has yet you carry on defending the indefensible. He lost the battle way back in early 2020 by playing it down and refusing to listen to the advice being screamed at him from around the world and from our own scientists. As if that wasnt bad enough, time and time again throughout the pandemic he did the same yet still you defend the indefensible. Whats worse is not only do you defend this moron you actively try and wag the finger at the EU and Europe? Is there something wrong with you?


Oh yeah I forgot NI..........so that's your UK is a Island country shot down in flames .........

I can only assume there is deffo summat wrong with you..... seeing as you're so annoyed that the UK is no longer suffering the worst from COVID ...........

Worra Sado Chimp ........


Ah so you acknowledge then that our Island nation has suffered the worst from Covid on more than one occasion. Thats progress I guess. Actually last time I looked we were still recording some of the highest infection rates in Europe and the Highest not that long ago. Island nations can be made up of more than one island you clot. Indonesia has 17000 of them. Its also heavily populated with 273 million inhabitants. Point is island nations should be able to protect themselves better and clearly with the exception of the UK with its tinpot poundland Churchill leader they have been able to.


Hmmm ............

Indonesia's Covid-19 Death Toll More Than Double the Official Data: IHME Analysis
BY :JAKARTA GLOBE

MAY 07, 2021

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesias-covid19-death-toll-more-than-double-the-official-data-ihme-analysis


Even if that were true and it was just Indonesia it would still be half the death rate of the UK. Indonesia is also the fourth most populous country in the world and a lower middle income status country where whilst its done pretty well since the 90s, 25 million people still live in poverty and deprived conditions. Yet still in the list of island nations they have far outperformed the UK, a G7 country under Johnson throughout the pandemic. How shameful is that?


So you are saying its not true? .......

Why is that?...........

1........Is it that the graph also shows that Japan under reporting of death rates is even higher than indonesia, which also pisses all over your island country theory?

2........Perhaps it's because it shows that the UK's death rate has exactly mirrored Italy?

3........But we know the trut....... It dosen't fit you hate filled Boris/Brexit bashing agenda? ........

Keep on hating & hoping Barry Bullsh1t ........


Its not based on facts but estimates and even if it were true it still puts islands states like Japan and Indonesia way down on deaths compared to the UK. Whichever way you try and dress it up as you scrabble around the internet desperately trying to show Islands states that have failed as badly as we have in protecting their inhabitants against covid you are going to fail because without doubt by a country mile we are the worst and that is down to Boris Johnson and his inept handling of the pandemic from way back when he talked about taking it on the chin and how we should all carry on shaking hands to when against all advice he constantly dithered and delayed, refused to put in a circuit breaker, cancelled Christmas then it was on again, then it was cancelled again, sent kids back to school for one day then sent them home again to give everyone Covid, failed to lock down routes into the UK in time (India anyone?) until he was finally saved by the vaccine producers and the NHS he has done his best to destroy.

That is why we as an island state lost all our advantages and why 170000+ people are dead.
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Posted: 2 January 2022 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 


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pelmetman - 2021-12-30 6:08 PM .............................
1.....Back then the Pandemic had just appeared and Boris had been in the job for months......What's Germany and France's excuse now? .........
2......I Refer you to my thread titled "15" its quite easy to find if you use the search facility .......
3......Germany & France have had the best part of 2 years to prepare for the Delta variant and the Omicron......they haven't......so they have F*cked UP ........
4.......You're easily confused as is eveident by you thinking deaths rates per 1million on "worldometer" refer to "That day" ........

1 "What's Germany and France's excuse now?" Excuse for what? Having lower total death rates per 1,000,000 population than UK? Do they need an excuse for that?

2 I can't find any thread by entering either 15, or "15" as search terms. Does it actually exist on this forum? Not one you got deleted, was it?

3 Untrue. Delta was first identified on 31 May 2021, seven months ago, and Omicron on 26 November 2021.just 5 weeks ago. Hardly two years to prepare, is it? Overclaiming again! You're a real chip off the old Boris block, aren't you!

4 They do. There are three settings. "Now", "Yesterday", and "Two days ago". Given those options, "Now" seems to me to suggest today's figures. So 31/12/21 becomes "that day". What's wrong with that?


1........They "currently" have a death rate lower than the UK, it wont be long with deaths in the 100's everyday until they catch us up..........So what's their excuse for squandering their earlier advantage? ........

2........https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/15-/58102/ ...........

3........Well you LOSERS seem to think Boris should have prepared for the pandemic that no one knew was coming, within just a few weeks of becoming PM..........Hypocrites .........

4.........If you read my 15 thread you will see that we were overtaken months ago by many EU countries........The only question is which EU country will overtake us next ...........Because its pretty bleedin obvious the EU's penny pinching and Merkels & Macron the Moron bad mouthing of AZ has cost lives ............But no doubt you LOSERS will ignore their F*ck Ups? ...........

Worra a bunch of Pathetic LOSERS ..........



Just wondered how you were getting on adding to that list of covid deaths by Island Nations Dave? Remember I started it for you?

There must be some that are worse than us surely seeing as Johnson has done such a good job here of protecting a nation surrounded by sea.

Covid deaths per million for Island nations.

UK 2184 (170000+ deaths in total)
Indonesia 531
Philippines 465
Japan 145
Iceland 110 (only 36 deaths in total)
Australia 83
Madagascar 36
New Zealand 9 (only 51 deaths in total)


Didn't your school master Dad teach you that the UK is made up of "3" countries? .........

Although the Cornish would say its 4 ..........


No because there are four countries in the UK!

So what? We are still a small island surrounded by water. That should have given us an advantage over mainland Europe. Clearly other island nations have by a country mile kept infections and deaths at bay better than Johnson has yet you carry on defending the indefensible. He lost the battle way back in early 2020 by playing it down and refusing to listen to the advice being screamed at him from around the world and from our own scientists. As if that wasnt bad enough, time and time again throughout the pandemic he did the same yet still you defend the indefensible. Whats worse is not only do you defend this moron you actively try and wag the finger at the EU and Europe? Is there something wrong with you?


Oh yeah I forgot NI..........so that's your UK is a Island country shot down in flames .........

I can only assume there is deffo summat wrong with you..... seeing as you're so annoyed that the UK is no longer suffering the worst from COVID ...........

Worra Sado Chimp ........


Ah so you acknowledge then that our Island nation has suffered the worst from Covid on more than one occasion. Thats progress I guess. Actually last time I looked we were still recording some of the highest infection rates in Europe and the Highest not that long ago. Island nations can be made up of more than one island you clot. Indonesia has 17000 of them. Its also heavily populated with 273 million inhabitants. Point is island nations should be able to protect themselves better and clearly with the exception of the UK with its tinpot poundland Churchill leader they have been able to.


Hmmm ............

Indonesia's Covid-19 Death Toll More Than Double the Official Data: IHME Analysis
BY :JAKARTA GLOBE

MAY 07, 2021

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesias-covid19-death-toll-more-than-double-the-official-data-ihme-analysis


Even if that were true and it was just Indonesia it would still be half the death rate of the UK. Indonesia is also the fourth most populous country in the world and a lower middle income status country where whilst its done pretty well since the 90s, 25 million people still live in poverty and deprived conditions. Yet still in the list of island nations they have far outperformed the UK, a G7 country under Johnson throughout the pandemic. How shameful is that?


So you are saying its not true? .......

Why is that?...........

1........Is it that the graph also shows that Japan under reporting of death rates is even higher than indonesia, which also pisses all over your island country theory?

2........Perhaps it's because it shows that the UK's death rate has exactly mirrored Italy?

3........But we know the trut....... It dosen't fit you hate filled Boris/Brexit bashing agenda? ........

Keep on hating & hoping Barry Bullsh1t ........


Its not based on facts but estimates and even if it were true it still puts islands states like Japan and Indonesia way down on deaths compared to the UK. Whichever way you try and dress it up as you scrabble around the internet desperately trying to show Islands states that have failed as badly as we have in protecting their inhabitants against covid you are going to fail because without doubt by a country mile we are the worst and that is down to Boris Johnson and his inept handling of the pandemic from way back when he talked about taking it on the chin and how we should all carry on shaking hands to when against all advice he constantly dithered and delayed, refused to put in a circuit breaker, cancelled Christmas then it was on again, then it was cancelled again, sent kids back to school for one day then sent them home again to give everyone Covid, failed to lock down routes into the UK in time (India anyone?) until he was finally saved by the vaccine producers and the NHS he has done his best to destroy.

That is why we as an island state lost all our advantages and why 170000+ people are dead.


So seeing as you only like facts now ........

How many of those 1700000+ deaths were caused by COVID or died with COVID? ..........

Naturally you'll be able provide factual figures and not ESTIMATES ..........

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So seeing as you only like facts now ........
How many of those 1700000+ deaths were caused by COVID or died with COVID? .........................................

Worldometers: today - 148,778. Not enough? Just stick around a bit.
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pelmetman - 2022-01-02 11:50 AM ......................................
So seeing as you only like facts now ........
How many of those 1700000+ deaths were caused by COVID or died with COVID? .........................................

Worldometers: today - 148,778. Not enough? Just stick around a bit.


He is not going to need to stick around for long. NHS is shutting down as we watch, schools won't have enough staff to open on Tuesday. The time for a late intervention was Boxing Day, but Johnson couldn't announce one then because of NYE parties, he is not allowed to mention parties.
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Not only that, 30% of Covid patients discharged from English hospitals are readmitted within five months and almost one in eight of them die. These are not counted.

people who die of complications as a result of the virus, beyond 28 days of a positive test, are also not included in the widely quoted government figure. Over time this discrepancy is likely to make the government figure less of an accurate representation of the true coronavirus death toll.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/22/uk-official-covid-death-toll-undercounted-fatalities

Then of course there are those that die of something else because they cant get the treatment they need or cant get an ambulance because they are stuck outside a hospital with a covid patient in the back. As the NHS reaches capacity once again and thousands of NHS staff are off with Covid because Johnson just let it rip this is also only going to increase.

I guess we will never know the true total but without doubt it is already and will continue to be horrific.

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That is why we as an island state lost all our advantages and why 170000+ people are dead.


So seeing as you only like facts now ........

How many of those 1700000+ deaths were caused by COVID or died with COVID? ..........

Naturally you'll be able provide factual figures and not ESTIMATES ..........


UK Government website provide the figures.....updated daily at 4pm. This link has been shown to you countless times before but you prefer to remain in denial.



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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........

Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


I doubt it. It took him long enough for the penny to drop on this thread.

https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/It-appears-/58892/#M698210
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........

Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

Why don't you explain the difference? We'll wait.
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........

Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

Why don't you explain the difference? We'll wait.

He's ignoring the thread so doesn't know.
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pelmetman - 2022-01-02 2:45 PM
Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID



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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )


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pelmetman - 2022-01-02 2:45 PM
Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )




He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom

( So why are you telling lies? )
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )




He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom




Excellent !

So now you can see how the government are spinning the number of people who die from COVID by only ANNOUNCING those who die in the first 28 days.

I knew you get it eventually.

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And more importantly how does Pelmethead, our most knowledgeable and self educated member, propose that Covid deaths should be recorded? Perhaps he could share with other forum members (aka LOSERS) his rationale as to why the changes introduced by Johnson's government more than seventeen months ago is suddenly so objectionable to him? Is it because it's producing big numbers?

And being a international business man he'll also know how covid deaths are recorded throughout Europe, although his knowledge of the German method will be particularly detailed. Perhaps he could share these systems with us and explain what the key differences are to the UK system?
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )




He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom




Excellent !

So now you can see how the government are spinning the number of people who die from COVID by only ANNOUNCING those who die in the first 28 days.

I knew you get it eventually.







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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )




He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom




Excellent !

So now you can see how the government are spinning the number of people who die from COVID by only ANNOUNCING those who die in the first 28 days.

I knew you'd get it eventually.


I don't think he does Malc which is why he's continually shooting himself in the foot making more senseless posts in his desperation to protect his beloved Johnson. He'll come back with some more inane rubbish.
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )




He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom




Excellent !

So now you can see how the government are spinning the number of people who die from COVID by only ANNOUNCING those who die in the first 28 days.

I knew you get it eventually.



You are telling lies again ........

The numbers only include those who died **WITH**.... COVID...... NOT.... died "FROM"...... COVID ........

Highlighted because you appear to be having trouble either reading or understanding the difference .........
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )




He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom




Excellent !

So now you can see how the government are spinning the number of people who die from COVID by only ANNOUNCING those who die in the first 28 days.

I knew you get it eventually.



You are telling lies again ........

The numbers only include those who died **WITH**.... COVID...... NOT.... died "FROM"...... COVID ........

Highlighted because you appear to be having trouble either reading or understanding the difference .........

You're making yourself look very silly now.
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Can someone explain the difference to the Chimp"s" above the difference between dying "within 28 days of a positive test" and dying of COVID ........
Worra bunch of thick as sh1te Chimps .......

I don't know, Dave. Perhaps you could explain it, to help us/them out?


If someone is run over by a bus and is rushed to hospital and dies.......yet they had tested positive in the previous 28 days for COVID ........what killed them? ........

I'll make it simple for you....... the answer is a number ........

1.........Bus

2.........COVID




A fit healthy young footballer is taken ill and is rushed to hospital where he is diagnosed with Covid.

29 days later - he dies.

What did he die of ?

I'll make it easy for you.

It's Covid.

( So why would he be excluded from the governments figures ? )




He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom




Excellent !

So now you can see how the government are spinning the number of people who die from COVID by only ANNOUNCING those who die in the first 28 days.

I knew you get it eventually.



You are telling lies again ........

The numbers only include those who died **WITH**.... COVID...... NOT.... died "FROM"...... COVID ........

Highlighted because you appear to be having trouble either reading or understanding the difference .........


You seem to have avoided my questions?

"And more importantly how does Pelmethead, our most knowledgeable and self educated member, propose that Covid deaths should be recorded? Perhaps he could share with other forum members (aka LOSERS) his rationale as to why the changes introduced by Johnson's government more than seventeen months ago is suddenly so objectionable to him? Is it because it's producing big numbers?

And being a international business man he'll also know how covid deaths are recorded throughout Europe, although his knowledge of the German method will be particularly detailed. Perhaps he could share these systems with us and explain what the key differences are to the UK system?"

What is now unclear is the purpose of your latest change of direction? Are you suggesting that people are not dying because of covid? Have you joined the ranks of the covid deniers?

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pelmetman - 2022-01-04 11:56 AM...................................
He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom
( So why are you telling lies? )

Ways to help yourself, Dave.

Follow this link https://tinyurl.com/mr3cm89u to an explanation of the complications of recording death from, and with, Covid, by Professor John Newton of Public Health England, from August 2020. The blog is referenced by the ONS. Just follow the links in the blog for further information.

There: all you needed to know, and more - without calling anyone a liar! Simples!
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Posted: 4 January 2022 11:06 PM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 
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But did he die of cannonball or with cannonball?

https://twitter.com/bealelab/status/1478320936730439680?t=ouHBsO2-c04XV8kTsIcKQw&s=19
userJohn52
Posted: 5 January 2022 7:34 AM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 


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CurtainRaiser - 2022-01-04 4:20 PM
You seem to have avoided my questions?

"And more importantly how does Pelmethead, our most knowledgeable and self educated member, propose that Covid deaths should be recorded? Perhaps he could share with other forum members (aka LOSERS) his rationale as to why the changes introduced by Johnson's government more than seventeen months ago is suddenly so objectionable to him? Is it because it's producing big numbers?

And being a international business man he'll also know how covid deaths are recorded throughout Europe, although his knowledge of the German method will be particularly detailed. Perhaps he could share these systems with us and explain what the key differences are to the UK system?"

What is now unclear is the purpose of your latest change of direction? Are you suggesting that people are not dying because of covid? Have you joined the ranks of the covid deniers?


I'm looking forward to pelmethead explaining that one
userpelmetman
Posted: 5 January 2022 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 


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Brian Kirby - 2022-01-04 4:52 PM

pelmetman - 2022-01-04 11:56 AM...................................
He wouldn't.......he'd be included with those who died with COVID on their death certificate .......
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom
( So why are you telling lies? )

Ways to help yourself, Dave.

Follow this link https://tinyurl.com/mr3cm89u to an explanation of the complications of recording death from, and with, Covid, by Professor John Newton of Public Health England, from August 2020. The blog is referenced by the ONS. Just follow the links in the blog for further information.

There: all you needed to know, and more - without calling anyone a liar! Simples!


It's not me that needs the help Brian ........

Its your fellow squad member Malc.d who seems to think that the figures from the government only includes those who died "from" COVID .............

Perhaps you could send him a pm explaining the difference between dying "with"......and .....dying "from" ..........

For example.......I will die "with" piles........not "from" piles.........
userpelmetman
Posted: 5 January 2022 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: That'll ruin the squads New Year...........
 


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CurtainRaiser - 2022-01-04 4:20 PM

You seem to have avoided my questions?

"And more importantly how does Pelmethead, our most knowledgeable and self educated member, propose that Covid deaths should be recorded? Perhaps he could share with other forum members (aka LOSERS) his rationale as to why the changes introduced by Johnson's government more than seventeen months ago is suddenly so objectionable to him? Is it because it's producing big numbers?



I dont have a problem with the way COVID deaths are recorded, as its plain to anyone with half a brain that to carry out post-mortems is impractical .........

I have a problem with the Squad who are perverting the facts by saying that they ONLY include those who died FROM COVID .........

As is evident from this sh1te posted by malc.d ........

"So now you can see how the government are spinning the number of people who die from COVID by only ANNOUNCING those who die in the first 28 days."

Obviously the "d" in malc d stands for DUMB .........
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