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| pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?.. 
Well, being a 'draft dodger ' he was hardly likely to lead from the front.
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| Oh the irony...
Metro.co.uk: US rioters face 10 years in prison due to Trump’s law targeting BLM protesters.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/08/us-capitol-rioters-face-10-years-in-prison-due-to-donald-trumps-law-13869643/ |
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Metro.co.uk: Trump rioter sacked after storming US Capitol wearing his work badge.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/08/capitol-riots-trump-rioter-sacked-after-seen-wearing-his-work-badge-13870022/ |
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| Birdbrain - 2021-01-07 7:29 PM
Chuckle, I cant read it ... A qualified psychiatrist would most prolly be struck off for making a public diagnosis of anyones mental health without meeting them, you as an amateur enthusiast with I presume no qualifications in this field feel the need to carry on with your silliness ... Own ya silliness
But then I'm, not, nor pretending to be. I just found a magazine article that explains the characteristics. I did wonder if it was a bit complicated, but if you persevere you should get there.
Me? I just use the duck test. You know, if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Of course, I accept in full that were I really a psycho-analyst of some sort, your response would be that all psycho-analysis is quackery - see what I did there; quack, quack!  Amazing thing the human brain, in the right (metaphorical) hands, isn't it?  |
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| pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
I agree, Trump (and his lickspittles) incited the mob.
As tragic as that womans death was, she wasn't struck by some stray bullet whilst she was out on the lawn protesting peacefully was she?..No, she was deep inside the Capitol building, as she was a part of the mob who had stormed it!...
I haven't heard much about how the police officer had died?
He was attacked by one of Trumps thugs who hit him over the head with a fire extinguisher, rushed to hospital where he was put on life support but died later.
https://tinyurl.com/yytkjczy
If that footage of Trump and his followers laughing it up in his hospitality marque IS actually as the storming of the Capitol building is taking place(and not them just looking at the rally that led up to it) then it is even more sickening..
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?..
It is, it was mentioned on news reports late last night. It shows how sick and twisted these people are just as all his fawning unhinged mental retards are too. |
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| malc d - 2021-01-08 12:10 PM
pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?..
Well, being a 'draft dodger ' he was hardly likely to lead from the front.
Well it now seems he has done a complete u-turn and is condenming the mob for attacking the Capitol building.
Seems he wants 'em all locked up.
I wonder how his followers will react to him turning against them.
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| Grumpyman - 2021-01-08 12:01 PM
Pence has not got the balls to invoke the 25th amendment always been a yes man to Trump.
Few ever have stood up to him and those that have he gets rid of. Other gutless wonders walk away rather than confront him. He's a spoilt brat, bully and thug used to getting all his own way hence the childish temper tantrums when he doesn't. |
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| malc d - 2021-01-08 1:37 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 12:10 PM
pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?..
Well, being a 'draft dodger ' he was hardly likely to lead from the front.
Well it now seems he has done a complete u-turn and is condenming the mob for attacking the Capitol building.
Seems he wants 'em all locked up.
I wonder how his followers will react to him turning against them.
They'll probably storm the White House. |
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| malc d - 2021-01-08 1:37 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 12:10 PM
pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?..
Well, being a 'draft dodger ' he was hardly likely to lead from the front.
Well it now seems he has done a complete u-turn and is condenming the mob for attacking the Capitol building.
Seems he wants 'em all locked up.
I wonder how his followers will react to him turning against them.
I doubt anyone will take him seriously either Malc as it's come far too late in the day for damage limitation.. He incited the rioting and has done irreparable damage to the country and office of Presidency. He's just wriggling and squirming now he realises he's up a corner. |
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| It ain’t over until the fat lady sings and it wouldn’t surprise me if Trump carries on kicking unless and until he either ends up in jail or pops his clogs. His latest video is no more than a tactical retreat because he is confronted by a serious obstacle but the last thing he can be called is a quitter so stand by for more fireworks and more legal challenges and Ed apology. |
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| Brian Kirby - 2021-01-08 12:25 PM
Birdbrain - 2021-01-07 7:29 PM
Chuckle, I cant read it ... A qualified psychiatrist would most prolly be struck off for making a public diagnosis of anyones mental health without meeting them, you as an amateur enthusiast with I presume no qualifications in this field feel the need to carry on with your silliness ... Own ya silliness
But then I'm, not, nor pretending to be. I just found a magazine article that explains the characteristics. I did wonder if it was a bit complicated, but if you persevere you should get there.
Me? I just use the duck test. You know, if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Of course, I accept in full that were I really a psycho-analyst of some sort, your response would be that all psycho-analysis is quackery - see what I did there; quack, quack! Amazing thing the human brain, in the right (metaphorical) hands, isn't it?
You aint "pretending to be" some sort of head shrinker ??? ... Chuckle ... You just diagnose mental health issues on individuals you aint ever met on a public chat room thats all and then you start banging on about ducks ... I might use ya duck test ... You're Quackers ... Ducks ducks everywhere, its all in ya head |
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| One thing that surprised me is that no one ever mentions the archaic (I would say medieval) electoral system in force in the States.
- To vote you must register. Here, until a few years ago, voting was compulsory.
Now it is optional but you can just show up at your polling station with the voting card (given to each citizen) and an identity document.
Without any other formality. I guess it is so everywhere or almost.
- Two full months between elections and settlement.
First the elections, then the electors by state, then the college of electors, then the whole Congress (Representatives plus Senators), then the pledge, finally the move to the White House.
With the risk that a president who no longer has the trust of the population could commit abuses.
I think it's a unique case.
- Electors x Census. Done on a ten-year basis it certainly creates inconvenience.
Who guarantees that the population of any state has not changed significantly in the last ten years ?
It all made sense in the days of the Far West, Wells Fargo coaches and the first railroads.
Not in the 21st century when it only takes a few hours fly from San Diego to Vermont. And in the age of computers and the internet.
Not to mention consolidated lobbying. Here it is considered a concept very close to that of corruption. |
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| Pot, kettle, can I say black??? ... https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/trump-is-a-narcissistic-reckless-demagogue-says-ex-speaker-bercow/ ... Gotta laugh at bully boy Bercow |
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| Bulletguy - 2021-01-08 1:52 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 1:37 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 12:10 PM
pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?..
Well, being a 'draft dodger ' he was hardly likely to lead from the front.
Well it now seems he has done a complete u-turn and is condenming the mob for attacking the Capitol building.
Seems he wants 'em all locked up.
I wonder how his followers will react to him turning against them.
I doubt anyone will take him seriously either Malc as it's come far too late in the day for damage limitation.. He incited the rioting and has done irreparable damage to the country and office of Presidency. He's just wriggling and squirming now he realises he's up a corner.
Typical Trump. Probably trying to save his own arse after inciting what can only be described now as a terrorist incident. The world will be a better and safer place without him and with any luck Biden will see to it that all those involved do a very long stretch including Trump.
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| jumpstart - 2021-01-08 3:36 PM
So all Trump has to do is resign, hand over to Vice Pence who as President pardons Trump for all his crime's.
"pardons Trump for all his crimes" ... What would those be ??? |
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| Birdbrain - 2021-01-08 3:40 PM
jumpstart - 2021-01-08 3:36 PM
So all Trump has to do is resign, hand over to Vice Pence who as President pardons Trump for all his crime's.
"pardons Trump for all his crimes" ... What would those be ???
Well let's start with rape and sexual assault. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-all-list-misconduct-karen-johnson-how-many-a9149216.html
And then move onto sedition. https://news.sky.com/story/us-capitol-nancy-pelosi-calls-for-donald-trumps-immediate-removal-after-seditious-act-12181923
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Chuckle ... Hes been found guilty of all those things ??? |
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| Birdbrain - 2021-01-08 3:55 PM
Chuckle ... Hes been found guilty of all those things ???
No, because whilst in office he could not be charged. Although it is somewhat ironic that in his fight to stay in office he has provided a heap of additional evidence and encouraged the element of the GOP that doesn't want the party to be taken over by fascists to finally prosecute him. |
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| CurtainRaiser - 2021-01-08 4:03 PM
Birdbrain - 2021-01-08 3:55 PM
Chuckle ... Hes been found guilty of all those things ???
No, because whilst in office he could not be charged. Although it is somewhat ironic that in his fight to stay in office he has provided a heap of additional evidence and encouraged the element of the GOP that doesn't want the party to be taken over by fascists to finally prosecute him.
The "No" was suffice ... The rest is just .... Guff |
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| Barryd999 - 2021-01-08 3:35 PM
Bulletguy - 2021-01-08 1:52 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 1:37 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 12:10 PM
pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?..
Well, being a 'draft dodger ' he was hardly likely to lead from the front.
Well it now seems he has done a complete u-turn and is condenming the mob for attacking the Capitol building.
Seems he wants 'em all locked up.
I wonder how his followers will react to him turning against them.
I doubt anyone will take him seriously either Malc as it's come far too late in the day for damage limitation.. He incited the rioting and has done irreparable damage to the country and office of Presidency. He's just wriggling and squirming now he realises he's up a corner.
Typical Trump. Probably trying to save his own arse after inciting what can only be described now as a terrorist incident. The world will be a better and safer place without him and with any luck Biden will see to it that all those involved do a very long stretch including Trump.
I thought you "didn't give a toss about America" ??? |
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| mtravel - 2021-01-08 3:23 PM
One thing that surprised me is that no one ever mentions the archaic (I would say medieval) electoral system in force in the States.
I find the length of time a President-elect has to go before taking office even more obscure. Here in UK once a new PM has been voted in, the sitting PM is unceremoniously turfed out the following day! A pity the US doesn't adopt the same method as Trump would have been slung out of the WH over two months ago and of course none of this nonsense would have happened as he wouldn't have time.
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| Birdbrain - 2021-01-08 4:07 PM
The "No" was suffice ... The rest is just .... Guff
You think so? Watch this space.
Mind you have a track record on this don't you. Seems it wasn't only Boris saying Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize, good judge of character obviously
https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/Kim-Jong-Un/48895/
https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/Got-My-Ticket/52181/ |
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| Barryd999 - 2021-01-08 3:35 PM
Bulletguy - 2021-01-08 1:52 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 1:37 PM
malc d - 2021-01-08 12:10 PM
pepe63 - 2021-01-08 11:52 AM
Also I thought he, being the big man that he is, was spouting about how he was going to march with them?..... not hid in a tent and watch on TV?..
Well, being a 'draft dodger ' he was hardly likely to lead from the front.
Well it now seems he has done a complete u-turn and is condenming the mob for attacking the Capitol building.
Seems he wants 'em all locked up.
I wonder how his followers will react to him turning against them.
I doubt anyone will take him seriously either Malc as it's come far too late in the day for damage limitation.. He incited the rioting and has done irreparable damage to the country and office of Presidency. He's just wriggling and squirming now he realises he's up a corner.
Typical Trump. Probably trying to save his own arse after inciting what can only be described now as a terrorist incident. The world will be a better and safer place without him and with any luck Biden will see to it that all those involved do a very long stretch including Trump.
His plea is shallow meaningless empty words. Lets not forget he referred to the rioters as "special people" and "patriots" telling them "we love you". What is it with grown adult men and women prostrating themselves before him in servile worship, blowing kisses and fawning all over him like a child with a teacher crush? They are as mentally retarded as he is.
Unfortunately he's likely to be dead before he sees a jail cell but certainly there are a lot lawsuits waiting to start the minute his office is officially terminated and thats what he's been in mortal fear of. |
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| Trump has announced that he will not be attending the Inauguration on January 20th. It is now also known that he intends to leave the White House the day before. Presumably he will therefore fly to Florida (or elsewhere, perhaps out of US jurisdiction) in Air Force One while can still call the shots, aiming to show his continuing contempt and perhaps also to help encourage his followers to demonstrate their objections and contempt too.
It’s possible of course that Trump’s period of office could end prematurely.
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Its still a NO princess ... Wrap it up in as many silly links or words that you want its still a NO ... More hate not hope |
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| StuartO - 2021-01-08 4:57 PM
Trump has announced that he will not be attending the Inauguration on January 20th. It is now also known that he intends to leave the White House the day before. Presumably he will therefore fly to Florida (or elsewhere, perhaps out of US jurisdiction) in Air Force One while can still call the shots, aiming to show his continuing contempt and perhaps also to help encourage his followers to demonstrate their objections and contempt too.
It’s possible of course that Trump’s period of office could end prematurely.
It's worth looking back at how Nixon spent his last few hours in the White House after his criminality had been exposed via Watergate. This article is an interesting read and also the clip. I dread to think of Trumps legacy as I fear there is much more yet to come, as if what's already happened isn't bad enough.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-richard-nixon-spent-day-white-house/story?id=47914193 |
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| What worries me is that Trump’s actions and populist rhetoric have made it unlikely that this bloodletting is over. I don’t envy Mike Pence, he’s in a bit of a fix deciding what is the least worst option. |
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| Violet1956 - 2021-01-08 5:38 PM
What worries me is that Trump’s actions and populist rhetoric have made it unlikely that this bloodletting is over. I don’t envy Mike Pence, he’s in a bit of a fix deciding what is the least worst option.
I'm sure he will pray...thats what he normally does when he doesn't know what to do. |
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