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OK guys and gals I've tried the search option over the past few days and can' t seem to get anything and i know this will have been discussed before but a bit of knowledge and experience requested. We're going to get a towbar fitted and tow our (my) motorcycle, a Triumph Speed triple 1050 weighing about 210kgs 420lbs ish.

I live in Bristol but it seem i have to go to a fabrication specialist a little way away to fit a towbar (can't believe there isn't one in a city the size of Bristol but there we are) and it's going to cost about £500 to £600, is that about the right price for an Elddis 115 2007 Peugeot chassis?

We're going to tow through Europe and use the bike to explore/have fun. I was looking at the RORO type but was wondering if anyone has experience of these or any recommendations. Trailers seem to come in at £400 for a new single carrier. The tariler will have to cover quite a few miles especially in a couple of years when we'll able to tour for much longer periods.

So to recap whats the price of a professionally fitted towbar and any thought on the sort of trailer especially RORO.

Thanks

Rog

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Newark Vehicle Bodies did something similar for us on a Autotrail Merc Scout. Solid job. But I built the trailer. Simple all aluminium job apart from the Indespension units, tow hitch and wheels. No brakes needed as the laden trailer was under 750 Kg. I had a simple folded up ally ramp for loading / unloading which stowed in the trailer alongside the bikes. Oh yes, there were two bikes!

 

C.

 

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Hi

 

I have had a MOTOLUG trailer for about 20 months and covered about 13000 miles towing a Honda 600 - weight 200kgs.

 

No problems thus far apart from a puncture but i bought a spare tyre when i bought the trailer so that was easily fixed.

 

Trailer not a RORO but i bought the loading system that grips the front wheel so i can load single handed. I have to "drive" it up as i walk alongside although when it was demo'd to me at the Newbury show in 2009, the guy just pushed his bike (bigger than mine!) up - younger and stronger than i am! If you go on website there is more info

http://www.bikelug.myzen.co.uk/home-1-0.html

 

I purchased this trailer because it comes apart into 4 or 5 parts so i can carry it down side of house to store in shed at bottom of garden.

 

It is expensive but for me it was important to be able to fold away. I like the idea of a RORO but i have nowhere to store it!

 

Good luck

 

Peter

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Hi

I had a towbar fitted at Armitages (See address in earler post) and tow the C1 on an A frame or the bike (Bandit) on a 2 wheel single bike trailer (Erdo-self assembly £350 delivered-could definitely recommend this) Have had no trouble whatsoever towing either all over UK and Europe.

Although Armitages are a fair way from Bristol, I would check them out as their price might make the journey worth it. Certainly a lot less than £600 in my experience. Also you will need a ramp to get the bike on the trailer which Armitages supply ex stock to suit. They also do bike trailers but not sure of cost etc-bought mine on Ebay!!

Mike

PS we are taking the bike up the Mosel at Easter if you fancy a rideout

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Hi Rog, I had a towbar and scooter rack made to measure in Ross on wye, by a guy who is a motorcyclist and also makes trailers of all types, very strongly made out of 4x2 box, the cost for me was around £600 for the two products, very obliging and willing to make any personal add ons you may want, although he won't help you if he thinks the van is not up to it, when i first visited he was just turning some unhappy chappy away, you can contact CMF trailers 01989 769191, or www.cmftrailers.co.uk he does need the van to be left for a couple of days for the fabrication, then went back couple of weeks later for fitting after galvanising, all i had to do was the wiring as he normally gets someone in to do it at extra cost, hope this helps

brian

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I use a RoRo trailer to tow my Honda Deauville. Originally I used an 'ordinary' bike trailer, meaning that I had to walk alongside the bike as I ran it up onto the trailer using the engine. Quite frankly, it never completely safe loading the bike like this. I constantly thought, one slip and the bike will fall. On one occasion, the ramped 'kicked up' and I was stuck with the bike halfway up the trailer. As I was on a CC site, 10 minutes passed and I attracted the attention of a passerby and got help.

With the RoRo trailer I can ride the bike up onto the trailer completely and then dismount and secure it singlehandedly. I towed the bike to Spain and Portugal last year and encountered no problems.

There is a clip on Youtube demonstrating the loading of a Ro Ro trailer.

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If you have the post 2007 Elddis they have teamed up with Witter regarding Tow-Bars

"Only Elddis Autoquest has a type-approved towbar fitting option

Elddis and Witter have worked together to create a type-approved towbar that is safe, secure and easy to fit to any new Elddis Autoquest model."

http://www.elddis.co.uk/autoquest/towbar.html

for a video clip.

For a compactfolding Trailer this may be off interest:-

http://www.trealestrailers.co.uk/motorcycle_trailers.php

 

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If you want to reduce the trailer length & save a metre+  on ferry fares, have a look at these from a thread last year

http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21154&posts=13

http://www.remorques-charnoud.fr/detail.php?ref=1800200&ph=0&menu=tracty&page=camping_car



I also read somewhere that Easylifter now have a two wheel version of this:-

www.easylifter.co.uk/hydra-trail.htm

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As a fellow 115 owner who wants to tow a 260kg Burgman 650 I would be very interested in what you decide!

 

There is a long thread here about the easylifter with pics of my Burgman towards the end of the thread

 

http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftoptitle-85106-new-easylifter-hydra-trail.html

 

I like the RoRo, the Easylifter and the Motolug but the problem with all of them is how to tie down my bike...

 

I have fitted airrides and uprated my rear axle to1750kgs through SVtech in anticipation of a towbar - Have you?? Payload might be a problem on the rear axle...

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For bikes that have footrests I normally have two fixed supports on the trailer (bits of thick plywood) that just miss the underside of the footrests then ratchet straps back and front to pull the bike down onto them. The bike wheels running in a trough.

 

Done many thousands of miles all over Europe like this.

 

C.

 

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Another route to consider is to get a covered trailer.

That will enable you take additional items in some security within the trailer, like your bike clobber, and bits of camping essentials, such as gas for continental use, water barrels and waste containers, chairs etc.

I use a Brian James Minno for my GoldWing, but there others made for bikes.

Make sure, if you go for covered version, that there is enough room to get alongside the bike for when tieing down. Some leave no space for generous sized riders !

A covered trailer keeps sticky fingers off the bike as well. >:-(

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I will try again with the piccy, last time the system gave a fault andeven after several tries uploading would not work.

Here goes

 

Nope

It says

Sorry, the server encountered an internal error and was unable to process the page you requested.

 

The webmaster has been informed of this error and will look into it as soon as possible.

 

Please try again later - for now click here to return to our homepage

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Well,

The bike in the foreground is a Honda APE with a big bore 115cc sooper dooper go faster kit, big carb, posh suspension etc. Standard 100cc. Its good for going almost anywhere but a tad slow for the motorway.

The bike at the back is a classic Monkey bike with a 108cc electric start engine and a longer rear swinging arm to stop the Mrs doing wheelies and comming of the back.

 

I sold the Ape to another nutter and you can see his transformation here

http://www.monkeybikeonline.co.uk/

The Mrs still has the Monkey.

I now have a CCM FT35S which is a water cooled 400cc bike. Now that is cooool!

 

C.

 

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Your towbar only needs to bolt on as an extension to the chassis.

I had this problem when trying to find a towbar for both my last 2 Hymer A-class, got silly quotes of £500+, so bought the box section and angle, measured up and built the towbar myself, total cost was about £60 including ball and electrics, it's massively over-engineered because i used 6mm angle for the mounting and 100x50 box for the bar, its full width so acts as a bumper as well.

If you are not a competant welder, then get someone in to do it, it will still be cheaper.

 

Seriously, it's a lot easier than you think.

 

We have now got a Bandit 1200, before that an ST 1100 and used a double bike trailer which was adapted so that the channel and front wheel holder was in the middle, we then boarded the platform to give a solid base. We now use a twin axle box trailer with built in ramp, so might put the bike trailer up for sale, i'll let you know.

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Thanks guys, Clive it was worth persevering with the piccy, i hadn't thought of a covered trailer but it does make sense for kit and gubbins. I've already spoken to the company in Bridgewater but thanks for the info. and thanks to Flicka for the links. Just waiting for some people to get back to me.

Ta

Rog

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